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[truthwolf1]

Doomsday shelters line Kansas missile silo

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-shelt...035247086.html

[sgreger1]

Doomsday shelters line Kansas missile silo

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-shelt...035247086.html

Lol, that is awesome! Man I would love to have one of those, just to say I have my own underground bunker in an old nuke silo. To enter you have ot scan your fingerprints and legal force is authorized to keep people out. Has it's own production sources for fish and veggies and unlimited energy, clean water, and air. The whole first floor is secured so no one can come in, guards patrolling outside.

If a drug kingpin were smart they would buy one of these and turn the whole thing into a big meth kitchen or something and make crazy quantities of drugs in this secret location where no one will bother thema nd they won't have to worry about being jacked, and then just find a way to quietly move it out in small shipments under the guise of "Oh just came to visit the condo for the holiday!" every few months.

[Mayhart]

Saw this vid some days ago. Thought it would be worth sharing.

[truthwolf1]

I have seen that Mayhart. Good vid.
The idea that we are living in a matrix flips me out that everything could really just be a illusion. To be honest that really flips me out.

[truthwolf1]

Lol, that is awesome! Man I would love to have one of those, just to say I have my own underground bunker in an old nuke silo. To enter you have ot scan your fingerprints and legal force is authorized to keep people out. Has it's own production sources for fish and veggies and unlimited energy, clean water, and air. The whole first floor is secured so no one can come in, guards patrolling outside.

If a drug kingpin were smart they would buy one of these and turn the whole thing into a big meth kitchen or something and make crazy quantities of drugs in this secret location where no one will bother thema nd they won't have to worry about being jacked, and then just find a way to quietly move it out in small shipments under the guise of "Oh just came to visit the condo for the holiday!" every few months.

It sounds like they have covered a lot of problems that could arise in a doomsday event and yes they would make a excellent meth house's. The only thing is that in a case of emergency you would only have so many minutes before you could get to these places unless properly warned. Traffic would be jammed and possibly all electronics.

[sgreger1]

Saw this vid some days ago. Thought it would be worth sharing.

Wow I just watched this right now. This is one of the best videos I have seen on the internet lately. It's absolutely true. Each of us is born into a prison, one which you cannot smell or taste or touch, but it's all around you and every day you serve it, feeling in control but guided by the influences they place in your environment, all designed to make sure you stay asleep and never wake up. There has to be something more, another way. This video is extremely inspiring, it's short and to the point and it is frankly a masterpiece. Thank you for sharing this, I relaly enjoyed this clip/.

[sgreger1]

This is another video by the same group. I could not have said it better myself, this is such a great video and encompasses my beliefs on things. A work of art.

[precious007]

This is another video by the same group. I could not have said it better myself, this is such a great video and encompasses my beliefs on things. A work of art.

awareness means breaking the matrix -

most people can't and won't because they're trying to create security to their life instead of creating FREEDOM -

don't get me wrong I'm not fully aware either, I'm still in a sleeping mode (LOL) and that is due to my anxiety.

most people go on their entire life living in the matrix because they don't have the power to understand the pure essence of life. Life has become so complicated these days, where almost everyone lives materially and many even lack normal emotions .... simply because 99% of the people see life as a competition, whereas it's not a competition but it's a journey and an experience ........

interesting videos -

I could go on for days on this subject (read quite a lot on this) but I just gave up a while ago.... while I was trying to break the matrix and all the self-destructive behavior that I WAS aware of, I failed miserably and threw myself back in the race (LOL) ...... that why they call it the rat race by the way (because most people think they're in a competition, which is false by all means)

if you ask me, I'm not sure how to define happiness either, but I'm working my way to it ... because that's the essence of life.........

I am amazed at how many people I talk to and still have that concept of - getting rich, living the dream, living in a fancy crib.......... and so on but really is what you want always what need? NOPE.

[heders]

This is another video by the same group. I could not have said it better myself, this is such a great video and encompasses my beliefs on things. A work of art.

That video really hit the spot of what I've felt and discovered lately. The one above I've seen before and that one is also truly fantastic, and so damn true. What is funny is that the society is constructed in a way which labels you a weird hippie when you take interest in things like this. The ultimate truth and purpose of our existence can't possibly be too make a career, get money and follow society's norms. I have felt this so strongly lately, and at the same time have developed a very strong bond to nature and love for other beings. I never thought I would go down this road, but it feels like something grand has taken place recently, and it's spreading like wild-fire all over the world (for example, the wide popularity of Eckhart Tolles spiritual books which came about a few years ago - one of his books has sold 3 million copies since 2000, only in North America). Love is the truth, and to awaken is to see that you are the awareness behind the world and the human functioning. The awareness is pure and never-changing, but we identify so strongly with our ego (human part of us) that we loose touch with our self and feel a great lack.

[heders]

awareness means breaking the matrix -

most people can't and won't because they're trying to create security to their life instead of creating FREEDOM -

don't get me wrong I'm not fully aware either, I'm still in a sleeping mode (LOL) and that is due to my anxiety.

most people go on their entire life living in the matrix because they don't have the power to understand the pure essence of life. Life has become so complicated these days, where almost everyone lives materially and many even lack normal emotions .... simply because 99% of the people see life as a competition, whereas it's not a competition but it's a journey and an experience ........

interesting videos -

I could go on for days on this subject (read quite a lot on this) but I just gave up a while ago.... while I was trying to break the matrix and all the self-destructive behavior that I WAS aware of, I failed miserably and threw myself back in the race (LOL) ...... that why they call it the rat race by the way (because most people think they're in a competition, which is false by all means)

if you ask me, I'm not sure how to define happiness either, but I'm working my way to it ... because that's the essence of life.........

I am amazed at how many people I talk to and still have that concept of - getting rich, living the dream, living in a fancy crib.......... and so on but really is what you want always what need? NOPE.

Love IS our true self. When we are born, we are loving, peaceful, blissful and happy. This is before we are thrown in to the unconsciousness world and start developing our ego, which makes us start identifying with our body - our thoughts, our feelings et cetera, and then makes us start feeling like we are not good enough, like we lack something. None of this is who you are, but are only appearances inside of you. Without you (awareness), thoughts and feelings could not exist. It is for you they come. Ego is all about resistance, and what really is depression et cetera is ego (thoughts) battling/resisting thoughts. When we are in identification with our ego, we crave love - which is really a craving of our true self since we have identified as being something we're not.

You are always your true self (you are ALWAYS aware since you are awareness itself). It is nothing to gain, but to SEE. It is about seeing that you have identified with a functioning inside of you instead of the real you; the one who is aware. Anxiety is a mere functioning inside your body. By identifying with your anxiety (taking the anxiety as 'this is who I am'), you perpetuate it and give it credibility. See it as just energy moving around; be the space in which the anxiety plays, without identifying and resisting. Let it play.

Ask yourself this: Who is aware of the anxiety? And who is suffering the anxiety? Don't think and assume - feel it out truly. See if you can find the sufferer in you. Does one exist? Can it be that it's just a thought construct? Only look - be like you are aware through the eyes only, just observing and watching the dynamic function of your body-mind, without identifying or adding fuel to the fire.

[Roo]

Lots of interesting and a few insightful posts here. To a couple of you I ask: must we resort to using terminology from a mediocre (at best) Keanu Reeves movie? A society, culture, or ideology can be referred to as the "matrix" from which something -- for example materialism, consumerism, religious doctrine, political memes -- emerges. But I fear it is being used here in the context of the 1999 sci-fi film. Correct me if I'm wrong. "The Matrix" used as a stand-alone noun without any context can really only refer to the good-for-entertainment but otherwise absurd concept applied in the film.

[Darwin]

Agreed oh temporarily damaged one. I forbear however to refer to any Matrix flick as sci-fi since there is zero detectable actual science in it. With few exceptions modern filmed "science fiction" is characterized by a vaporously thin skeleton of plot irrationalities and scientific illiteracies fleshed out by vasty heaps of frantically busy and overwrought computer graphics. Then again calling these faragos of idiocy Science Fiction is preferable from a marketing standpoint than the far more accurate Lousy Acting Surrounded By Technological Absurdities.

[sgreger1]

Lots of interesting and a few insightful posts here. To a couple of you I ask: must we resort to using terminology from a mediocre (at best) Keanu Reeves movie? A society, culture, or ideology can be referred to as the "matrix" from which something -- for example materialism, consumerism, religious doctrine, political memes -- emerges. But I fear it is being used here in the context of the 1999 sci-fi film. Correct me if I'm wrong. "The Matrix" used as a stand-alone noun without any context can really only refer to the good-for-entertainment but otherwise absurd concept applied in the film.

Obviously not referring to the actual movie concept of us living in a compter program while we are fattened up for robots who harvest our energy.

However, the idea that we are living in a computer simulation has been an often discussed concept in the scientific and philosophy community for a while now. Here is a really good paper on it from NICK BOSTROM, Faculty of Philosophy, Oxford University, arguing that we are in fact living in a computer simulation:

This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true:
*(1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage;
*(2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof);
*(3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed. http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html

Essentially the argument is that at some point, humans will develop computers complicated enough to run very realistic simulations. It follows that at least one of these simulations will be carried out by the future scientific community to simulate the evolutionary process in order to study it. The question is, are we in such a simulation ourselves?


Anyways, when people say "Matrix" here, they are referring to the concept of an emergent phenomena that is observed when a group of people are raised to believe certain things or behave a certain way. Hence, by controlling ones environment from a young age, you can choose how they see the world (in this case, for a diabolical purpose). If someone grows up around a consumer culture with a constant barrage of commercials, celebrities etc, they will see the world one way, but someone raised to believe something else will see the world another way. The idea being proposed in this thread (and in the videos) is that all humans are currently blinded by a sort of human matrix, a version of reality of our own making that may not be representative of the "true" or larger reality as a whole. The idea is that we were raised with war and consumerism etc etc and so we perpetuate it because that is what we have come to see as the norm and is how we view life, because these behaviors are so ingrained into us. It follows that people could overcome this through a change in perspective and collectively "wake up" to realize that we actually have the power to control and shape our reality in the sense that the world is what we make it. Each of us behaves a certain way, and in aggregate these behaviors make up the larger human reality. By individually "being the change you want to see" we can (as the theory goes) each do our part to realize that life doesn't have to be this way, and eventually it will catch on world wide and there will be a paradigm shift which (again in theory) results in a better world that isn't so closed minded and full of ignorance and injustice.



Edit: Also **** both of you or anyone else who didn't like the Matrix. At least the first one was a good movie, and a cool concept. It doesn't have to be scientifically accurate to be sci-fi, it just has to have a science/fantasy theme to it, which i believe the Matrix accomplishes. Quit being dicks.

[heders]

Awesome explanation sgreger.

[Roo]

We're not being dicks. 1) It doesn't matter to me that someone is employed by Oxford University, if he or she postulates that our world is generated by computers, I am still going to laugh in his or her face. 2) What's wrong with the term Cultural Relativism? Franz Boas and Marvin Harris are rolling in their graves! I really wasn't trying to be a dick. Referring to modern society as "The Matrix" is annoying to me, but why would you or anyone else care about that. Should've not posted at all, I'll give you that one. One last thing, I did not recall you employing that term, but obviously you did lol.