Did aliens or God create the human race?

[bill77.017]

Yeah, I just popped in to visit and see what was happening.

Tom!!! Great to see you brother how are you doin???

[tom502]

Hey guys! I check in now and again. I miss the old snusin' days at times. And the forum exchanges as well. I have not been using oral tobacco. I have been occassionally smoking, but more as a social thing. I did try to see if nasal snuff would be fun again, it used to be, but I bought a 10 pack of Toques, and I don't know what happened to me years ago, but I get a bad nasal reation when I snuff, and it's just as bad now. I posted to sell them off on the Snuffhouse forum.
Me, I'm doing OK. Mainly active with my band, which I posted a vid on the "what are you listening to" thread a while ago, from our last show in May. We are recording the new material now. Other than that, just regular day to day livin'.

[lxskllr]

Hey guys! I check in now and again. I miss the old snusin' days at times. And the forum exchanges as well. I have not been using oral tobacco. I have been occassionally smoking, but more as a social thing. I did try to see if nasal snuff would be fun again, it used to be, but I bought a 10 pack of Toques, and I don't know what happened to me years ago, but I get a bad nasal reation when I snuff, and it's just as bad now. I posted to sell them off on the Snuffhouse forum.
Me, I'm doing OK. Mainly active with my band, which I posted a vid on the "what are you listening to" thread a while ago, from our last show in May. We are recording the new material now. Other than that, just regular day to day livin'.

Sounds good. I'm glad to hear you're well :^)

[bill77.017]

Hey guys! I check in now and again. I miss the old snusin' days at times. And the forum exchanges as well. I have not been using oral tobacco. I have been occassionally smoking, but more as a social thing. I did try to see if nasal snuff would be fun again, it used to be, but I bought a 10 pack of Toques, and I don't know what happened to me years ago, but I get a bad nasal reation when I snuff, and it's just as bad now. I posted to sell them off on the Snuffhouse forum.
Me, I'm doing OK. Mainly active with my band, which I posted a vid on the "what are you listening to" thread a while ago, from our last show in May. We are recording the new material now. Other than that, just regular day to day livin'.

Good to hear brother, glad your doing ok and the bands still going.

[tom502]

Thanks lxskllr, bill77., and all.

[whalen]

Good to hear from you tom502, was wondering what was going on with you.

[precious007]

Hey Tom,

I'm glad to hear you're well :-)

A lot of people have dropped off the forum, but hopefully they'll be coming back :-)

[tom502]

Thanks. Well, I haven't been using snus, so it seemed odd to still be a regular poster. I have many times thought about trying snus again... I'd look over the getsnus site... but then I'd think I don't think I'd like it anymore, and I don't think I wanna get back on it again... but that repeats at times. I wish I could just go to my corner gas station and pick up a can of General once in a while, as I'd do that, but I don't want to order a bunch, and if I got it and didn't like it anymore, one can would not be any big deal.

[precious007]

Thanks. Well, I haven't been using snus, so it seemed odd to still be a regular poster. I have many times thought about trying snus again... I'd look over the getsnus site... but then I'd think I don't think I'd like it anymore, and I don't think I wanna get back on it again... but that repeats at times. I wish I could just go to my corner gas station and pick up a can of General once in a while, as I'd do that, but I don't want to order a bunch, and if I got it and didn't like it anymore, one can would not be any big deal.

I too got tired of having to go through hassles of ordering snus online (it seems so stupid at times)

Like I'm buying cocaine or something, lol.

It also get more expensive by the day....

but I managed to get some "discounted" snus of off some members :^) in exchange

I wouldn't be able to spend 10 euros a can anyways, I'd end up paying 150 euros per month on snus alone "A fortune"

[sgreger1]

Because our universe has rulles , it has rulles which it follows , from chaos can not came up rulles throw bols on the flor chaoticly will they after bild something ? Never . So someone gave the starting point for his creation , then who was that who made that "guy" it is a quastion we will never know

* It did not come from chaos
* Entropy Increases

Again, there are ways of explaining where the rules came from. Namely the multiverse theory, wherein there are many universes (an infinite number), and eventually you get one with the specific rules that we observe here. Things were highly ordered at the beginning of the universe, and become less ordered over time, i.e. entropy. It appears as chaos but it is not.

Even if we don't have an answer for why things are the way they are, why does that automatically mean that a wizard did it? That some guy just created it all?

[tom502]

Makes sense to me.

[sgreger1]

I go by the view that we are the universe experiencing itself, simply.

Yah that is pretty much what I think at this point. I think the whole universe can be viewed as an organism itself, even if not necessarily sentient. It's amazing to think that out of the universe comes sentient life which can in turn look back at itself. Like you said, we are the universe experiencing itself when we look out to the stars. Baffling to think about.

[precious007]

…

spacetime could appear out of nothingness as a result of a quantum transition. … Particles can appear out of nowhere without specific causation … Yet the world of quantum mechanics routinely produces something out of nothing

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[sgreger1]

TOM! Come visit us more often. You know we don't talk about snus anyways

[precious007]

I have a bunch of books that I've read about "aliens existence" but as we humans are rational beings how could we completely believe in their existence, when we clearly and believe so that no one has seen an alien alive? I mean a lot of strange things happen all over the world.... but most of the times the phenomena is sometimes explained by science... later on...

Just to get back to the idea, I have read an article on Creation.com that debates:

If God created the universe, then who created God?

http://creation.com/if-god-created-t...ho-created-god

Quite interesting.... conceptions.

I had this question since I was 3 or 4 ..... If everything on this planet ends sooner or later (even the glaciers and animal species) then where is the end of the Universe?

Q. And if there is an end to the Universe (I am referring to its size) .... what is after that "END"..... Guessing it's infinite .... but what is infinity?


The Universe is Infinite then that makes me believe that God is the Universe.

So God Created the Universe, just like Him "INFINITE".