Did aliens or God create the human race?

[wa3zrm]

Did aliens create the human race? If so, does that negate the existence of God? Or, did God create the aliens? Despite the advancement of science and technology, Marshall-Green believes that humans will always have faith -- even if it’s one day proven that aliens were our creators, not God.

“I absolutely think that religion will always be a part of humanity, because it was one of the first inventions of man,” he said.

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[lxskllr]

One or the other eh? If those are the 2 choices, I'd say they're equally plausible. That's assuming they're taking the science fiction approach to aliens. If they're just talking about stuff that started in space, and ended here, then "aliens" 100%... Well... I'll leave a little wiggle room. We'll call it 98.4% :^D

[precious007]

God = Love = Universe

So I do believe that God created the human race.

Religion is a doctrine created by humans.

[Thunder_Snus]

This may be a little off topic but most people talk about alien invasions when the alien topic comes up. They have the notion that aliens will come down with this high powered weaponry and have the ability to enslave us but has anyone ever though that if aliens did exist maybe they wouldnt have weapons? I mean, we have electricity because some dumbass strapped a key to a kite, a lot of modern technology we create is because ONE person had an idea and followed it through? Would aliens fight, or have wars? I'm not a hippie its just a serious question.

[precious007]

It's said that aliens have ultra-sophisticated psyhotronic technologies to manipulate humans (it's still in question though)

:^)

[Mdisch]

Are these my only two choices? :O

[Chigger]

Did aliens or God create the human race?

Yes.

I'm with Precious on this one.

God = Love = Universe (and everything in it)

One thing is for sure, we humans understand a only fraction of how the universe and life in general works.

[Mdisch]

So are you all eliminating the possibility that natural biological engineering exists on even the most basic levels and that it cannot be instigated without foreign intervention? Because a lot of scientific research proves otherwise.

[truthwolf1]

I watched the film Nature Of Existence (2010) last night.

They did not go into Alien DNA manipulation but did talks with somebody from all the major religions and some cult/guru characters on what is the purpose of life. If I had to identify my own beliefs I guess I leaned more towards Paganism and spiritualism which they discussed. I think nature is a force that is quite possibly more intelligent then we currently take it for. Spiritual because I do not believe everything can be wrapped up in a religious book or in a scientific theory. As humans I believe we are still growing and learning.

From WIKI.
Spiritual But Not Religious (SBNR) is a popular phrase and acronym^[1] used to self-identify a life stance of spirituality that rejects traditional organized religion as the sole or most valuable means of furthering spiritual growth.^[2] The term is used world-wide, but seems most prominent in the United States where one study reports that as many as 33% of people identify as spiritual but not religious.^[3] Other surveys report lower percentages ranging from 24%^[4]-10%^[5]
Those that identify as SBNR vary in their individual spiritual philosophies and practices and theological references. While most SBNR people reference some higher power ortranscendent nature of reality, it is common for SBNR people to differ in their ideas of the existence of God as defined by the Abrahamic religions. SBNR is commonly used^[6][7] to describe the demographic also known as unchurched, none of the above, spiritual atheists, more spiritual than religious, spiritually eclectic, unaffiliated, freethinkers, or spiritual seekers. Younger people are more likely to identify as SBNR than older people. In April 2010, the front page of USA Today claimed that 72% percent of Generation Y agree they are "more spiritual than religious".^[6]

[precious007]

The bottom line is that, most people pray to God, but don't actually feel IT's presence - God is within US, within the Universe, god is love.

You're a religious person because you've been trapped to believe some dogmatic stories that were purely made up with a purpose :^) centuries back

[sgreger1]

God = Love = Universe

So I do believe that God created the human race.

Religion is a doctrine created by humans.

How did "love" create the universe? And how is god = "love"? These are all human concepts, how do you suppose human concepts created the universe billions of years prior to the existence of said humans?

[sgreger1]

This may be a little off topic but most people talk about alien invasions when the alien topic comes up. They have the notion that aliens will come down with this high powered weaponry and have the ability to enslave us but has anyone ever though that if aliens did exist maybe they wouldnt have weapons? I mean, we have electricity because some dumbass strapped a key to a kite, a lot of modern technology we create is because ONE person had an idea and followed it through? Would aliens fight, or have wars? I'm not a hippie its just a serious question.

I think it would be exceedingly unlikely that they wouldn't have weapons or fight. Nature is a process of competition, and most selection is about surviving, which means protecting yourself and learning how to chase down and kill whatever it is you need to eat. All of these are the basis for fighting and once technology is introduced, weapons. Once intelligence starts having any part in it, you notice that the creatures get better at securing resources for themselves, and in a system of limited resources this usually means taking it from someone else. It's the same reason why we see monkeys establishing tribes and going to war with other tribes, and why humans fought since before there was even a written record of events. It seems that competition, fighting, etc is just inherently part of the selection process.

Humans needed weapons to hunt animals, but like many tools, they could also be used for protection or to kill and take something from someone else. If aliens have any level of technology, than they will have weapons.

I couldn't see any possible reality wherein aliens did not fight or have knowledge of weapons. There is no reason to believe natural selection would work any differents on an alien planet than it does here. It's like the laws of physics, I think it's a constant throughout space.


I think the reality is that life from somewhere that distant may not resemble what we identify as life. There is a good chance that we wouldn't even notice it if you did see it.


For example, in the early 1900's we discovered what a virus was. Humanity already had automobiles, but did not know about the life form known as a virus, even though it makes up 90% of the planet's genetic information (i.e., it is the most prevalent form of life on earth). Nowadays we know about bacteria, virii, and can even read the genetic information off of a swab of spit or human tissue and tell you what is living on it.
There was a TED talk about this that goes into more detail, but essentially the issue right now is that if you take a swab from (let's say) your nose, you could look at the genetic information and identify which parts were bacteria, which were virii, which were human genetic information etc, but about 25% of it is some form of life that is still yet unknown to us. It is referred to as biological dark matter. That means that just like how 100 years ago we didn't know what a virus was, despite the fact that it makes up roughly 90% of the entire planet's genetic material, today there is something similar which exists but we don't know what it is. It's not a virus, and it's not bacteria, it is some other life form that makes up a BIG portion of the genetic material. For example while it's only 25% in your nose, in your stomach it makes up a whopping 40% of the genetic information. There is an unknown form of life, in your stomach, that makes up 40% of it and we have no idea what form of life it is, only that it is life.

Think about that for a minute. We havn't even cracked all the eggs on earth yet, we don't even know about all life on our own planet and can't readily identify small creatures living in our own bodies. There is a very real chance that alien life may be similarly undetectable.

[sgreger1]

The bottom line is that, most people pray to God, but don't actually feel IT's presence - God is within US, within the Universe, god is love.

You're a religious person because you've been trapped to believe some dogmatic stories that were purely made up with a purpose :^) centuries back

You mean the dogmatic stories that there is a God, right?

The bottom line is that, 5k years ago, everyone prayed to the sun God. Do you believe this is evidence that a sun God exists? Where did he go when people stopped praying to him? Where did the Roman God's go after people stopped praying to them? Where will the christian God go when people stop praying to hi? You see, they never existed, Athena, Zeus, Ra, Isis, Allah, God, none of these are real things, so they cease to exist once people stop believing in them. Sort of like the eater bunny.

I'm with mdisch on this one, while I would love to believe in a God, there is significant evidence that this can all be explained without the need for some kind of foreign God to have started the process. I also agree with what Truthwolf was saying in that I think nature is more "intelligent" than we currently give it credit for. Not intelligent like a sapient being or a God, but it appears that the universe itself is an organism of it's own kind, ticking like a clock and following a certain method which is fiendishly complex and more astoundingly; it works. The only real explanation for this in my mind is that we live in a multiverse, where every possible outcome is expressed eventually in one of the universes. Eventually, a universe like ours would come into existence with just the right attributes to support things like life, the laws of phsyics etc. So either we are part of a very special universe that hit a certain sweet spot, or there is something else going on. Probably not a God though, that seems like sort of a cop out to just say "A wizard did it".

[AtreyuKun]

Human's created god. I'm neither religious, not spiritual.
Love and peace, and all are one bullshit? Nah. No thanks. I mean, I'm all about love and peace. Peace as in not fighting; love as in not outright hate, but you can't have one without the other. That's why I don't believe in heaven or hell or the like: everlasting anything is impossible.

[sgreger1]

Human's created god. I'm neither religious, not spiritual.
Love and peace, and all are one bullshit? Nah. No thanks. I mean, I'm all about love and peace. Peace as in not fighting; love as in not outright hate, but you can't have one without the other. That's why I don't believe in heaven or hell or the like: everlasting anything is impossible.

As the buddhists would say, "All things are transient in nature", or in other words nothing last forever.