Did aliens or God create the human race?

[CoderGuy]

This post has my vote, and i have nothing else to say ..... Apart from, i think religion started as a form of social control

I'm an atheist ...

Social control is definitely part of religion, but I think religion started (way way way back even before known religions) as a result of people's incessant quest for the ultimate answer, of life, the universe, and everything (which we all know is 42). Someone along the way becomes "enlightened" and starts providing answers that sound reasonable, and they start following that person, which causes them to create more answers (and then the social control begins).

I think that paradigm applies to all religions, past and present (with varying degrees of social control).

[Fazer]

the ultimate answer, of life, the universe, and everything (which we all know is 42)

Number 42 - Now that was funny. I'd forgot about that one.

[sgreger1]

Direct evidence that something did NOT occur. hummmm. yea ok.

Not sure why you're getting so upset bro, you were takking about aliens and the biblical flood and all that so I was just stating my two cents. No need to get upset, we're all just shooting the shit here.

And yes, there is direct evidence that a global flood did not occur. Evidence in the geological record mainly, which would have looked very different if a worldwide flood had occured. I don't see your point, do you not believe that one can disprove something by showing contradicting evidence of it? Like if I said "there was a worlldwide flood", is it not reasonable to point out that the sea distribution stops at a certain altitude, or that the genetic record shows no evidence of this happening, or that the archeological record shows no evidence of this happening, and that the geological record shows that no flood occured? I am just pointing it out, it is not rediculous to prove something didn't exist by using evidence. I don't see what your angle is here man.

You don't know enough of the overall Bible to make a judgment.

I disagree. I know more than enough to make a judgement. And I know I am not the first to hear the "stories" about the bible being plegearized. It doesn't change the fact that books from the bible (namely the old testament) come from long before the jews or the christians or anyone else, and have been changed over time. The christians for example changed most of their religion to base it around the pagans of the day in order to attract the pagans into christianity, this is why we celebrate things like haloween and christmas (pagan holidays that the church integrated into christianity).


As far as convincing others to blieve one thing or another, that's a futile attempt anyways. What's great about a thread like this is everyone bounces ideas and theories off each other and everyone contributes to the discussion, and everyone takes away from it what they will. If someone starts talking about the bible and it's stories as though they were true events, than I have to step in and say that I have evidence to the contrary. You do not have to change your belives, I am just posting it so all sides are heard.

If you want to know why I believe this or that way, read the Bible. It's all in there.

Right, I am just saying that it's kind of dangerous to base your world view on a holy book plagearized from earlier cultures and full of inacuracies and myths. But that is your choice.

Please go back to how Aliens from Stargate SG-1 created humans to mine gold for them to carry back to their mother planet to prevent global warming..... or something else you can prove.

None of those things are provable. They are in the same realm as ideas from the bible, the realm of fantasy.

[wa3zrm]

'UFO' at the bottom of the Baltic Sea 'cuts off electrical equipment when divers get within 200m'

Object is raised about 10 to 13ft above seabed and curved at the sides like a mushroom.
Hole is surrounded by an strange rock formation that expedition team can not explain.
Stones are covered in something 'resembling soot' which has baffled experts.
Divers say phones and some cameras switch off when close to the object.
The divers exploring a 'UFO-shaped' object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea say their equipment stops working when they approach within 200m.
Professional diver Stefan Hogerborn, part of the Ocean X team which is exploring the anomaly, said some of the team's cameras and the team's satellite phone would refuse to work when directly above the object, and would only work once they had sailed away.
He is quoted as saying: 'Anything electric out there - and the satellite phone as well - stopped working when we were above the object.
'And then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again, and when we got back over the object it didn’t work.'
Diver Peter Lindberg said: 'We have experienced things that I really couldn’t imagine and I have been the team's biggest skeptic regarding these different kind of theories.
'I was kind of prepared just to find a stone or cliff or outcrop or pile of mud but it was nothing like that, so for me it has been a missing experience I must say.'
Member Dennis Åsberg said: 'I am one hundred percent convinced and confident that we have found something that is very, very, very unique.
'Then if it is a meteorite or an asteroid, or a volcano, or a base from, say, a U-boat from the Cold War which has manufactured and placed there - or if it is a UFO... 'Well honestly it has to be something.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

[truthwolf1]

Some are claiming that it could be a old Russian round battleship they used for target practice but I doubt that would take out equipment like that. Very interesting.

[sgreger1]

I want to believe that it's a UFO so badly but I must warn you that the group on the expedition are purposely saying inflamatory things to garner media atention and funding, and they are only in this for the money. The last press release they put out was equally rediculous claims with nothing to back it up (like no video of the equipment failing or anything). Be skeptical of this team.

I really hope they find something cool though, I really really hope they do because it looks awesome.

[truthwolf1]

[wa3zrm]

If you notice, the flag is of Martian origin!