Plastic-bag ban catches some Seattle shoppers by surprise

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  • Crow
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    • Oct 2010
    • 4312

    Plastic-bag ban catches some Seattle shoppers by surprise

    "Most shoppers were responding good-naturedly to a new ban on plastic grocery bags that took effect on Sunday."

    Jeanette Sifuentes walked out of the Safeway store in North Seattle, her purchases — a box of eggs, a package of bacon and other breakfast fixings — cradled in her arms, not in a bag.

    It was not an uncommon sight outside drugstores, supermarkets and other retail stores in Seattle on Sunday as a citywide ban on carryout plastic bags took effect, catching some shoppers off guard.

    Like many people, Sifuentes said she simply forgot to grab one of the four reusable totes from the trunk of her car.

    So as a sort of self-punishment, she declined one of the free tote bags Safeway stores were giving away Sunday to the first 2,000 customers at each store.

    "They are not always going to be giving away free bags," Sifuentes said. "I think it's going to take a change in habit, but I've got to start remembering to bring them."

    Across the city, workers in supermarkets, drugstores, beauty-supply shops and other retail outlets were posing an entirely new question at the checkout counter: The ubiquitous refrain of "Paper or plastic?" replaced by "Did you bring your reusable bag?"

    The new law, which the Seattle City Council approved in December, requires retailers to charge 5 cents for each paper bag they give out.

    Some stores on Sunday were also charging 10 cents for heavier plastic bags — a choice the city left to their discretion.

    Stores may offer small paper bags for free.

    Small plastic bags used for meat, fruit and bulk items, as well as those used for dry cleaning and newspapers, are also exempt. Customers with electronic benefit transfer (EBT) cards, used for food stamps, are exempt from the fees.

    Retailers could be fined $250 for failing to comply.

    Across Seattle, most people interviewed Sunday were either unaware the ban was now in effect, were confused about which retailers were required to comply, or simply forgot to grab their reusable bags from their house or cars.
    ... According to Seattle Public Utilities, Seattleites use 292 million plastic bags a year but recycle only 13 percent of them, resulting in clogged landfills and harm to Puget Sound wildlife.

    Seattle is following the lead of a number of cities across the state, the country and the world — including Mexico City and Los Angeles — that have banned plastic bags.
    Continued at: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...icbags02m.html
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  • GoVegan
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    • Oct 2009
    • 5603

    #2
    I think the ban is coming here soon. No plastic bags and a small charge for paper bags. I am all for it even though I usually forget my canvas bags at home. Our oceans are choking on plastic and the less the better. I remember visiting a friend in Germany in the 80's and you had to bring your own bags or buy an expensive box. Kudos to Seattle for doing this. Now the Bing thing here is bringing glass jars and shopping in the bulk aisle. The cashier will weigh the empty jars first. Seems like a nice idea to me.

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    • sgreger1
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      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      #3
      Yah they've been doing this across california for a while. I kinda don't care to be honest, I think it's kinda commie nannystatish, but I agree that this shit all ends up in the ocean and in the stomachs of seaguls and shit and is probably better that we reduce the instance of it's usage. I always forget to bring my reusable bag though, like every ****ing time.

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      • whalen
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        • May 2009
        • 6593

        #4
        Originally posted by sgreger1
        Yah they've been doing this across california for a while. I kinda don't care to be honest, I think it's kinda commie nannystatish, but I agree that this shit all ends up in the ocean and in the stomachs of seaguls and shit and is probably better that we reduce the instance of it's usage. I always forget to bring my reusable bag though, like every ****ing time.
        This nanny shit has some good things to it, and I too always forget my freeking bags, and sure as hell my wife always has hers! I sucked up a bag on my Bay boat and toasted a motor once, so I do all I can to make a change to avoid it happening again. I mean if you were to go in and buy a freeking plastic grocery bag here, I swear they would put it into another plastic grocery bag to take home, that is a bit overkill. And I hate that they feel they have a right to tell me what to do, but then I stop and take a good look at some of the Rocket surgeons around me and think, well maybe they do have to be manipulated. There does not seem to be any shortage of clueless out there, it is a target rich environment for Jerry Springer!

        This is all going to end badly sometime.
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        • sgreger1
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          • Mar 2009
          • 9451

          #5
          Originally posted by whalen
          I mean if you were to go in and buy a freeking plastic grocery bag here, I swear they would put it into another plastic grocery bag to take home, that is a bit overkill.
          LOLOLOL, my local walmart is the worst, they would tripple bag something if they could, just to waste extra bags.

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          • Frankie Reloaded
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            • Jan 2011
            • 541

            #6
            *A bitter LOL*

            When I first visited England after Communism fell in my country, I was shocked to see people getting bags, real plastic bags free with their purchase We used canvas or durable plastic shopping bags that had to be bought beforehand in a shop that sold them.

            Now, what is it called where Seatlle is heading...?

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #7
              Originally posted by Frankie Reloaded
              *A bitter LOL*

              When I first visited England after Communism fell in my country, I was shocked to see people getting bags, real plastic bags free with their purchase We used canvas or durable plastic shopping bags that had to be bought beforehand in a shop that sold them.

              Now, what is it called where Seatlle is heading...?
              I'm imagining a post-nuclear seattle wasteland where the only viable currency is plastic walmart shopping bags, a scarce relic of the distant past. Explorers scavenge the ruins of a once great city looking for the valuable plastics, which can be sold at a premium to the upper class civizens who live in the last remaining walled-off city. Kinda of like Fallout 3 but with plastic bags.

              Edit: @Frankie Reloaded: I've been meaning to ask you this, but does your past experience in relation to communism and plastic bag shortages make you feel inclined to hoard plastic shopping bags in every spare cupboard of your house? If I went through that i'd have them stashed in every corner, and constantly tell my kids "JUST YOU WAIT, these will be vailuable some day!"

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              • bakerbarber
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                • Jun 2008
                • 1947

                #8
                People who reuse bags bring bacteria and other nasty cross contamination into the grocery store.

                Not everyone, but it is documented. If even one person drops their reusable bag onto a steaming pile of dog crap and then brings it into a store they can set off a whole string of contamination. From the bag to their hands, to the cart, and everything they touch or come into contact with.

                I'd be happy to pay extra for paper bags. I don't care for plastic and I agree that it's wasteful and harmful to churn out billions of plastic bags. Regardless of whether they get caught in a tree branch, choke a unicorn, or just take forever to degrade.

                My favorite is cardboard boxes. Like when you go to Sam's Club or Costco. That makes more sense to me. Reuse a cardboard box and let someone re-purpose it or recycle it.

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                • bakerbarber
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1947

                  #9
                  Just in case y'all think I made it up.

                  http://mynorthwest.com/11/700800/You...e-shopping-bag

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                  • Crow
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                    • Oct 2010
                    • 4312

                    #10
                    Fallout: Seattle

                    Originally posted by sgreger1
                    I'm imagining a post-nuclear seattle wasteland where the only viable currency is plastic walmart shopping bags, a scarce relic of the distant past. Explorers scavenge the ruins of a once great city looking for the valuable plastics, which can be sold at a premium to the upper class civizens who live in the last remaining walled-off city. Kinda of like Fallout 3 but with plastic bags.
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                    • GoVegan
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 5603

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bakerbarber
                      People who reuse bags bring bacteria and other nasty cross contamination into the grocery store.

                      Not everyone, but it is documented. If even one person drops their reusable bag onto a steaming pile of dog crap and then brings it into a store they can set off a whole string of contamination. From the bag to their hands, to the cart, and everything they touch or come into contact with.

                      I'd be happy to pay extra for paper bags. I don't care for plastic and I agree that it's wasteful and harmful to churn out billions of plastic bags. Regardless of whether they get caught in a tree branch, choke a unicorn, or just take forever to degrade.

                      My favorite is cardboard boxes. Like when you go to Sam's Club or Costco. That makes more sense to me. Reuse a cardboard box and let someone re-purpose it or recycle it.
                      It's life. Germs are everywhere. On shopping carts especially. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen some 300 lb woman drooling over the tomatoes or some other produce as she is squeezing them all trying to find the best one. It's a good idea to wash anything before you eat it. Especially when a 300 lb drooling woman is involved!

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                      • CoderGuy
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                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2679

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GoVegan
                        It's life. Germs are everywhere. On shopping carts especially. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen some 300 lb woman drooling over the tomatoes or some other produce as she is squeezing them all trying to find the best one. It's a good idea to wash anything before you eat it. Especially when a 300 lb drooling woman is involved!
                        So the fact that she's 300 lbs makes it worse than a 120 lb drooling woman?

                        I saw a kid take a piece of dried papaya from one of those bins they have in stores (with all the different nuts and dried fruits) and lick it and then put it back because he didn't like it. That was the last time I touched anything that wasn't thoroughly sealed (and yes, I got the manager).

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                        • fcamel
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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 141

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CoderGuy
                          So the fact that she's 300 lbs makes it worse than a 120 lb drooling woman?

                          I saw a kid take a piece of dried papaya from one of those bins they have in stores (with all the different nuts and dried fruits) and lick it and then put it back because he didn't like it. That was the last time I touched anything that wasn't thoroughly sealed (and yes, I got the manager).
                          Fat persons tend to drool more

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                          • CoderGuy
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2679

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fcamel
                            Fat persons tend to drool more
                            Apparently lol

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                            • GoVegan
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 5603

                              #15
                              What really gets me is when they ride around on their powered shopping carts and you have to try and manuever around them in the aisles.

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