New laws and more restrictions will never stop things like this from happening.
There will always be the unbalanced few who will commit atrocities such as this and legislation will not prevent it.
I'm used to guns. I know how to use them safely and I know the damage they do.
When I went to Northern Ireland on leave once I signed out a 9 mm. I didn't feel comfortable with it as I felt it made me a target. Also, it was way too much of a responsibility for me. I signed it back in the next day. I don't know how you guys comfortably carry on the steets. But yeah Roo, comparing the UK to the US isn't easy. People were allowed to have rifles here not so long ago but after a couple of massacres the government banned them. I don't think we've had a massacre since.
I'm used to guns. I know how to use them safely and I know the damage they do.
When I went to Northern Ireland on leave once I signed out a 9 mm. I didn't feel comfortable with it as I felt it made me a target. Also, it was way too much of a responsibility for me. I signed it back in the next day. I don't know how you guys comfortably carry on the steets.
You get use to it. The gun becomes part of your daily clothing. Don't know what sort of 9mm you signed out... but did you carry it concealed? From the way you are talking, it sounds like you were wearing it as a visible side arm. It's all a matter of getting use to carrying a concealed weapon. For me, it's the same as carrying my wallet. I usually conceal carry a Glock 17 without any problems.
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Well, as I was just going from house to car to another house in winter wearing a 3 quarter length coat....the pistol was holstered and kept in the car glove compartment whilst travelling. If anything happened I wouldn't have had time to get to it anyway.
I couldn't leave it in view in the car.
I suppose I felt paranoid with it.
My uncle who was a prison governor was armed to the teeth at all times and was comfortable with it...but he had to be. He lived there.
I don't know how you guys comfortably carry on the steets. But yeah Roo, comparing the UK to the US isn't easy. People were allowed to have rifles here not so long ago but after a couple of massacres the government banned them. I don't think we've had a massacre since.
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The shooter bought four guns from his local gun shop. And 3000 ammo for a assault rifle, another 3000 for hand guns and 300 rounds for a shotgun.
Clearly the laws are not too good?
The shooter bought four guns from his local gun shop. And 3000 ammo for a assault rifle, another 3000 for hand guns and 300 rounds for a shotgun.
Clearly the laws are not too good?
And what if he stabbed people to death with knives bought from a local grocery store or if he made a chemical weapon or explosive with contents from Lowe's or Home Depot, are we to shut it all down and not allow people to have drano and fertilizer anymore?
The fact is that what this man did was not about him being able to access guns easily, it was about him being crazy. Crazy people do things regardless and will choose whatever tools are available. Denying the rights of over 300 MILLION people to (not even) stop 1 guy from going insane is absolutely an overreaction.
I am just astounded at our European friends who are so cool with the government telling them they can not own weapons. As an American the concept is beyond me. Such simple freedoms can't even be comprehended by the rest of the world it seems. I hope they banned axes and knives and anything that can be used to make explosives in all of your respective countries as well.
And you're not allowed to carry a blade unless its necessary for your employment.
Even armed police keep their weapons in an armoury in their vehicle. To take the weapon out they have to get permission from a senior officer.
14 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado
By NBC News' David Wyllie, Ian Johnston, Dan Strieff and F. Brinley Bruton Updated at 5:59 a.m. ET: At least 14 people were killed early Friday when at least one gunman opened fire at a midnight screening of the summer blockbuster "The Dark Knight Rises" near Denver, authorities and witnesses said.
Aurora police chief Dan Oates told reporters that 10 people died at the scene of the shooting and four others died after being taken to local hospitals. At least 50 other people were injured, Oates said.
One suspect was in custody, police said.
The incident occurred in the Century 16 Movie Theaters at the Aurora Town Center, police told NBC News. Aurora is a suburb less than 10 miles east of downtown Denver.
NBC station KUSA cited a witness as seeing a black-clad 6-foot-tall man wearing a riot helmet, goggles and bullet-proof vest. The witness and her boyfriend crawled to the emergency exit, KUSA said.
The suspect was found in possession of a gas mask and two firearms, Oates said. The police chief said there was no evidence of additional shooters.
The suspect made a statement to police about possible explosives at his home, Oates said. An apartment building in north Aurora has been evacuated, Oates said.
Witnesses told reporters that gunfire erupted during a shootout scene.
Brenda Stuart, of 850 KOA radio, told Sky News that "a lot of people thought the gunshots were part of the movie." 'I'm in shock' Tear gas also went off in the theater, Stuart said. She added that bullets had passed from one theater into an adjoining one.
"It was surreal, it was like a movie," eyewitness Hayden Miller told KUSA.
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As he left the theater, Miller said people ran up to him and said "there was a gunman setting off bombs and shooting people. ... He wasn't giving anyone a chance to get out ... It hasn't really hit me. I’m in shock. it’s insane that this can happen in a movie theater where people had gone to have fun." The Denver Post quoted witness, Bejamin Fernandez, 30, as saying that people ran from the theater as shots rang out.
Fernandez told the Post that he saw people falling, including one young girl.
Salina Jordan, 19, who was in Theater 8, told the Post she saw one girl struck in the cheek and others in the stomach, including a girl who looked to be around 9 years old.
Jordan told the Post that someone ran into her theater yelling, "they're shooting out here!" An alarm came on, Jordan said, announcing there was a "murder in [the] theater."
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Police officers converge at the scene of a mass shooting in Aurora, Colo., early Friday.
Jordan told the newspaper she saw police carrying bodies out of the theater as well as officers opening fire.
Police spokeswoman Cassidee Carlson said "the scene is still very active." More on this story from breakingnews.com
Local emergency crews from several cities, including Denver and Boulder, have converged on the scene, Stuart told Sky News.
Cathy Canzanora, a 911 dispatcher, told NBC News that emergency dispatchers were deluged with calls from "everybody who had cellphones in the theater" at 12:39 a.m. Friday local time (2:39 a.m. ET).
The dispatcher said she could not reveal what people told her but said that they reported "that there had been a shooting so we got the police and the fire department and the ambulance there as soon as they could." Further local coverage from NBC station KUSA-Denver Police cars transport the wounded The injured were being transported to three local hospitals, police told NBC.
Nicole Williams, with the Swedish Medical Center of Englewood, Colo., told KUSA-Denver the hospital was alerted to a mass-casualty incident at 1:15 a.m. local time Friday (3:15 a.m. ET).
Kalena Wilkinson, a public information officer for Denver Health, said six patients were taken to that hospital, with one in a critical condition and the other five in " fair" conditions.
KOA's Stuart said that police officers were taking victims to hospitals in their cars and not waiting for ambulances.
A bomb squad was at the scene, police added.
Hundreds of witnesses who have not been injured have been taken to Gateway High School for a debriefing, local media reported.
"The Dark Knight Rises," starring Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway, is the latest in the popular Batman action movie franchise. Friday was its international premiere. This is breaking news story. Please check back for updates. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Congrats to the NRA. Keep up the good works dildos.
I'm not sure I would blame anything on the NRA. But they sure have their work cut out for them now. Read it and weep......
btw, 6000 rounds of ammo is nothing compared to what I have stashed for myself. I know several people that have considerably more than that number.
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
And what if he stabbed people to death with knives bought from a local grocery store or if he made a chemical weapon or explosive with contents from Lowe's or Home Depot, are we to shut it all down and not allow people to have drano and fertilizer anymore?
The fact is that what this man did was not about him being able to access guns easily, it was about him being crazy. Crazy people do things regardless and will choose whatever tools are available. Denying the rights of over 300 MILLION people to (not even) stop 1 guy from going insane is absolutely an overreaction.
I am just astounded at our European friends who are so cool with the government telling them they can not own weapons. As an American the concept is beyond me. Such simple freedoms can't even be comprehended by the rest of the world it seems. I hope they banned axes and knives and anything that can be used to make explosives in all of your respective countries as well.
Still if a person can buy four guns and over 6000 rounds of ammo in that short period the system is clearly not working.
If a dumbass like that guy couldn't have gotten all those things he wouldn't have killed and injured even close to that amount of people he did now.
Denying guns from citizens has worked well here. And yes someone can kill a man with a ****ing carrot if he/she wants to, but its much easier to do it with guns.
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