Ten killed in shooting at 'Dark Knight Rises' premiere: local radio

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  • sgreger1
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    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    Originally posted by CoderGuy
    Not silly and no offence. There are a lot of areas in the states that I won't go to also.

    This is why we carry guns and how they are supposed to be used though (the Colorado situation was different, lots of mayhem, dark, smokey, even if someone would have been carrying, things may have played out the same).


    Could have been a building full of bodies if not for that law abiding citizen being armed. Lol at when they trip over each other as they run out of the door too. Amazingly it seems like he managed to miss the guy he was shooting at even though he was like 5 feet away.

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    • sgreger1
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      Originally posted by devilock76
      I have friend whose great grandmother lived in the "wild west". He was fortunate she lived long enough that he got to know her and talk to her a lot. She told him it was nothing like the movies. Yeah everyone had a gun but you better have a damn good reason to pull it out as there would be 10 more pointed back at you because, again, EVERYONE HAD A GUN...

      Ken
      Yah, very little armed robberies of the local saloon in wild west days. HINT: It wasn't because they outlawed armed robberies, it was because everyone in the saloon was packin too and you'd be a fool to bring a gun out without expecting to get shot.

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      • CoderGuy
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        • Jul 2009
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        Originally posted by sgreger1
        Could have been a building full of bodies if not for that law abiding citizen being armed. Lol at when they trip over each other as they run out of the door too. Amazingly it seems like he managed to miss the guy he was shooting at even though he was like 5 feet away.
        Exactly. Actually he hit him twice, in the shoulder and in the ass.

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        • Crow
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          • Oct 2010
          • 4312

          Originally posted by Extreme
          I know you'll laugh and probably be offended but I have no desire to visit the States partly because of this.
          None taken.

          Being afraid to visit the US because of personal gun ownership? That's a bit much.
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          • Joe234
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            • Apr 2010
            • 1948

            Some guys need a big gun





            To make up for the size of their gun

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            • Premium Parrots
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              • Feb 2008
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              Cain killed Abel with a rock. OMG there are assault weapons everywhere!!!
              Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





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              • StuKlu
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                • Feb 2010
                • 1192

                Originally posted by texastorm
                to anyone on this board who somehow thinks that gun control is the answer. Prisons discover homemade guns more often than you would think. The devices are crude and probably dont shoot accurately, but thats beside the point, banning guns will not solve anything. Period. If you can acquire a gun in a prison, there is 0 chance of complete control in the general population. Someone will have a gun, and most likely that someone will be a criminal.

                There is no argument that can defeat that. If you take guns away from everyone, the criminals will then find ways to acquire them. The same way they acquire everything else we have ever made illegal. Now only criminals and a few officials will have guns. I cant imagine the fear that would create and how powerful it would make crime syndicates again. I cant imagine how people are so stupid as to believe that banning anything will stop that thing. You can certainly declare things illegal, but without a total big brother watching you society (and even then it is doubtful) you cannot control anything. Someone will find a way to get whatever you declared illegal.

                However in the case of guns, if you teach everyone how to use them, when to use them, and why, i can imagine that this person or anyone who arms themselves with intent to kill many will know they are likely to die if they draw a gun in a crowd. If your great great great great grandfather where an american citizen he would never have shot five people in a crowded place... Why you ask? Because someone would have shot him back after one.

                You cannot ban things from everyone and expect everyone to play with the same set of rules... Lifes not fair... It was never meant to be. No amount of restrictions on things will ever make it fair because some people will just refuse to play by the rules.

                I come from a different era. I played in the streets, the news was only 30 minutes a day, and cartoons only came on tv saturday morning for a few hours. In my lifetime i have watched the media corrupt society into believing that we are somehow less safe then in the time of my childhood, and statistically that is inaccurate. Children are just safe playing outside in the yard as when i was a kid. But now because you have heard firsthand about the last 20 non parent child abductions on the news in the last month or two, and that one cute girl got abducted and killed 3 states away, you will never let your children play outside. Believe it or not that cute girl abduction thing happened in my time to, and no one heard about it except those that read the local paper.

                You could argue that the exposure of these crimes in great detail on a nationwide platform has helped solve them and while that is true to a degree... At what price is it no longer worth it. I am so tired of the media sensationalizing every nutcase that kills another human. I am tired of the weather channel telling me to go indoors when its raining. I refuse to live in fear.

                I just refuse to live in fear. I wont let people around me rationalize in their heads some utopia where no one gets harmed and everyone lives a healthy natural lifespan, and above that never gets mad and does something mean, hateful and irrational. There will never be such a place, and laws will never create it. Learn to live in the real world without fear, and learn how to protect yourself and your family in the unlikely event that the next candidate for the five o'clock national news is you. But the reality is you will likely never make the news for either murdering someone or being murdered. You can crunch the numbers anyway you like.


                Hey lets ban snus so more people will smoke.

                You see liberal sports fans, your logic is a failure. Even if you successfully ban guns, you will be unsuccessful at stopping the crime. And in my opinion crime will get worse.

                Now i am headed to chic-fil-a to get the gay guy who works there to make me a chicken sandwich. I dont care if the owner hates everyone including white folks, he makes great chicken dammit!
                In conclusion you are statistically more likely to be stabbed to death in the uk than gunned down in the us.... Where is the march to ban knives? Ban all knives, knives are death, ban all knives rah rah ree.




                Good grief i just read an article while making sure i was statistically correct on the knife thing (and i am) and the articles have talk of banning knives in public... Lmao, now thats too funny. Now you cant bring a gun to a gun fight, a knife to a gun fight... All you can do is beat each other to death with sticks. Soon they will ban trees.
                this.is.awesome

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                • Ansel
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                  • sgreger1
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    Lol Ansel.

                    So I hear they are talking to this guy trying to ask him something and his only response is: "How did the movie end?".

                    And apparently he had a letter penned to his old psychology professor talking about how he wanted to kill people and stuff and had a bunch of drawings of him shooting people etc. I guess he never sent it.

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                    • CoderGuy
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                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2679

                      Originally posted by sgreger1
                      Lol Ansel.

                      So I hear they are talking to this guy trying to ask him something and his only response is: "How did the movie end?".

                      And apparently he had a letter penned to his old psychology professor talking about how he wanted to kill people and stuff and had a bunch of drawings of him shooting people etc. I guess he never sent it.
                      Actually he did send it, it sat in the mail room for a week. I bet there will be changes to how they handle mail from now on.

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