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  • Crow
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    • Oct 2010
    • 4312

    Australian court OKs logo ban on cigarette packs

    When tobacco regulation goes too far...

    Tobacco companies argued that the new rules will destroy the values of their brands



    llustrations obtained by Reuters show some of the proposed models of cigarettes packs in this April 7, 2011 file photo. Australia's highest court upheld the world's toughest anti-cigarette marketing laws on Aug. 15, 2012.

    CANBERRA, Australia — Australia's highest court upheld the world's toughest law on cigarette promotion on Wednesday despite protests from tobacco companies that argued the value of their trademarks will be destroyed under new rules that will strip all logos from cigarette packs.

    The decision by the High Court means that starting in December, tobacco companies will no longer be able to display their distinctive colors, brand designs and logos on cigarette packs. The packs will instead come in a uniformly drab shade of olive and feature graphic health warnings and images of cancer-riddled mouths, blinded eyeballs and sickly children. The government hopes the new packs will make smoking as unglamorous as possible.

    "This is a victory for all those families who have lost someone to a tobacco-related illness. For anyone who has ever lost someone, this is for you," Attorney General Nicola Roxon and Health Minister Tanya Plibersek said in a joint statement. "No longer when a smoker pulls out a packet of cigarettes will that packet be a mobile billboard."

    Fears of global precedent

    British American Tobacco, Philip Morris International, Imperial Tobacco and Japan Tobacco International are worried that the law will set a global precedent that could slash billions of dollars from the values of their brands. They challenged the new rules on the grounds that they violate intellectual property rights and devalue their trademarks.

    The cigarette makers argued that the government would unfairly benefit from the law by using cigarette packs as a platform to promote its own message, without compensating the tobacco companies. Australia's constitution says the government can only acquire the property of others on "just terms."

    The court, which ordered the tobacco companies to pay the government's legal fees, withheld its reasons for the judgment on Wednesday. They'll be released later this year.
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  • heders
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    • Jan 2011
    • 2227

    #2
    Ehm... a little extreme. I don't think that will do shit though. The only ones who might react negatively to the boring packages are teenagers (or they will just buy a cooler cig casing and switch packs).

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    • lxskllr
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 13435

      #3
      Gone too far? They went too far decades ago. Oversize warnings, unfair taxes, illegal restraint of trade...

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      • pris

        #4
        I saw this on the news today. I guess the tobacco nazis in Australia must be celebrating. I mean, look at the state of those packets :-/

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        • Chigger
          Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 126

          #5
          Originally posted by pris
          I saw this on the news today. I guess the tobacco nazis in Australia must be celebrating. I mean, look at the state of those packets :-/
          Granted smoking is not good for you, but if I was still smoking and was forced to buy cigs in those abominations of packaging they would promptly be transferred to one of these...

          http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page...arette%20Cases

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          • chainsnuser
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 1388

            #6
            What astonishes me is the fact that the anti-tobacco-professionals always get their ways, no matter what nonsense they propose.

            I mean, the whole anti tobacco industry consists of unproductive, mostly self-proclaimed "scientists" who do nothing else but to tell unfounded horror-stories.

            One does not have to be a scientist. One only has to read any of the anti-tobacco-workers' statements. Does that sound like veritable science or does that sound like the preachings of misanthropical lunatics? Yet almost everyones believes them.

            Yes, they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet the taxpayer feeds them. One must almost hope that the state-finances get even worse than they are to hopefully end this nonsensensical war against tobacco.

            Cheers!

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            • Skell18
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 7067

              #7
              You know that means it will now end up over here and it will apply to all tobacco products not just cigarettes, so snuff and (if the ban is lifted) snus too. ****ing wankers!! I never bought a pack of tabs based on how the pack looked! This, hiding them from display and all their other stupid ideas just makes it more attractive to young people, its forbidden so to rebel I have to try it to see what the fuss is about!

              My mother is about as anti smoking as you can get and even she thinks hiding them from dispay and plain packs is a stupid idea!

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              • sgreger1
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                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #8
                I am okay with this as long as they do it for all food and other poroducts as well. In fact, all cars shouldn't even have unique paint jobs like they do now, they should all be painted with giant warning labels like the one pictured above, with images of people in horrible car crashes and dead bodies on the street, with words running across the side of your car that reads "DRIVING KILLS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EACH YEAR" and "THIS IS A HALF TON BULLET COMING STRAIGHT YOUR WAY" with pictures of oil trucks exploding and everyone on fire and shit.

                I mean if we were to be consistent than that's what we would do.

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sgreger1
                  I am okay with this as long as they do it for all food and other poroducts as well. In fact, all cars shouldn't even have unique paint jobs like they do now, they should all be painted with giant warning labels like the one pictured above, with images of people in horrible car crashes and dead bodies on the street, with words running across the side of your car that reads "DRIVING KILLS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EACH YEAR" and "THIS IS A HALF TON BULLET COMING STRAIGHT YOUR WAY" with pictures of oil trucks exploding and everyone on fire and shit.

                  I mean if we were to be consistent than that's what we would do.
                  I like the way you think :^D

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                  • CoderGuy
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                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2679

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lxskllr
                    Gone too far? They went too far decades ago. Oversize warnings, unfair taxes, illegal restraint of trade...
                    Exactly. It should be illegal. If it's a legal product, they should not be allowed to hurt their business.


                    Originally posted by sgreger1
                    I am okay with this as long as they do it for all food and other poroducts as well. In fact, all cars shouldn't even have unique paint jobs like they do now, they should all be painted with giant warning labels like the one pictured above, with images of people in horrible car crashes and dead bodies on the street, with words running across the side of your car that reads "DRIVING KILLS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EACH YEAR" and "THIS IS A HALF TON BULLET COMING STRAIGHT YOUR WAY" with pictures of oil trucks exploding and everyone on fire and shit.

                    I mean if we were to be consistent than that's what we would do.
                    I agree. Fast food bags should have the same type of images on them and no more logos or colors for the different restaurants.

                    BTW, this post isn't hypocritical, I agree they shouldn't do it, but I also agree if they are going to do it anyway, it should be fair.

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                    • Crow
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 4312

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CoderGuy
                      I agree. Fast food bags should have the same type of images on them and no more logos or colors for the different restaurants.
                      McDonald's would shit bricks over that.
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                      • Mrobin52
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 109

                        #12
                        Welcome to the United Nanny States of the World.

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