It has been a pleasure gentlemen. I am taking my ball and going home now.

[Premium Parrots]

My reply in full was:




So why shant you mention the "type" of reply I sent? I said I am out and that I will pray for your health and that I hope everything works out for you. Am I just pissing everyone off with every single thing I post this week?

You said that you considered kicking me off the forum because I donated $50 [wrong, never said that at all] and then after had some questions about how it would be spent. You said you kept thinking about refunding the money. No good dead goes unpunished, that's what I always say.

In your PM you were telling me to tone it down etc as many members are voicing that they are not happy that conversations seem to turn to arguments (re: the gun control thread), i get it. I'm out.

PP I love you man you're one of my main brothers on here, nothing bad was meant by my short reply. I just feel that you didn't really handle that situation well[thats your opinion, I still have all the PMs of encouragement and praise from some of the members], banning members and all just for wanting to contribute to our veterans [Thats not what I said at all. I gave you the full story and you still don't understand? wtf] and asking some questions about how it was going to go down. But no bad blood, I was just keeping it short because you know how I can type up a book every time I post something, I didn't mean anything by it.

...............no hostility here. except that the only things you posted publicly you took out of context.


and your first post on this thread is not accurate either. Theres no reasoning with you, today. Some things you say are simply NOT TRUE. Especially some of the things you say in your other posts on this thread.

I have the same right to get pissed as anyone else here when anyone says "he said this or that" and its not true or accurate. You have done this repeatedly in these couple of threads is regards to what you say that I have said.

[Crow]

I'll suggest one more time for you two to simply "forget" what was said in the past, and reconcile.

The only other option is continued hostility, and that never ends well for both parties (and those around them).

I've said my piece. It's up to you two to decide what's best. I'm staying out of this from here on out. I just hope you two can reach peaceful terms.

[sgreger1]

PP I'm not sure what you are going on about mate I didn't mean to put your PM in a negative context and i'm not sure why you are even discussing it in this thread. Here is the full contents of the PM so that it absolutely cannot be taken out of context. I hope you can calm down, I am not disagreeing with anything you said. You sent a loving and well meaning PM and I thank you for it, now please stop being mad at me.

on that texas shooting thread. Please take this info the way its intended. for your own information only, to help you, not to bitch at you. Just so you understand how others may feel.

Remember that last military contribution thread? Well you came in questioning all aspects of the deal. Along with Precious that always put in his 2 cents worth of non-sensical posts right after every one of your posts. That was only the second time we have done a big contribution thread and yes it was close to the last one but we had a request to do it. I volunteered since I had a way to run it and organize it easily. I even made it into a contest and gave away a roll of my own snus to make it interesting.

I was sick as hell at the time and was under the influance of oxy [ that only took the edge off the pain]. I posted the first post and was ready to try to sleep because of the pain. You jumped in and questioned everything and I replied the best I could under the circumstances. And you kept at it....precious followed. After a few posts I even mentioned that I was sick and didn't need this hassel. You kept it up. I felt miserable but had to stick around to get it resolved. I was ****ing pissed as hell at you guys and was ready to stop the whole military contribution thing and quit the dam site. Yea it was that bad on me. But I had made a promise to do this for rick and I had to follow thru. We told everyone that if they have a problem to vent it now, on the original thread, because we were going to start a new thread so anyone that read the original thread wouldn't think we were ****ing nuts. THEN BB comes along and post lies on the new thread [I have a copy, actually all FOUR copies saved in the mod area]. That bastard posted that shit and as fast as I could move it he would post it again. That happened 6 times actually. Hell yea he deserved to be banned. He was given a chance to vent in the first thread then he goes to the new thread and bitches. And everything he did post was actually a lie!! Come on now, the mods deserve at least some common courtesy here. He got what he deserved. Thats not just my opinion I have many PMs stating how well I handled that situation and that BB really deserved that ban.

Now you find yourself kind of in the same situation [not with the physical pain but with the emotional pain with the wife, sorry bout that mate]. Because of this You did come in that texas thread pretty strong and I agree with you so you had no problem with me but you approached the situation a tad strong mate. So yea you did piss off some people on the other side of the pond.

Man I know you like to debate. That cool but Please try to tone it down as more and more members are getting to be not so happy when the conversation take on an argumentie tone. ITs just a discussion.

I was pissed at you like you wouldn't believe but, as a mod, I had to keep my cool. The mods had talked about banning you also but we decided that you were civil and just asking questions so we didn't. If you had any questions about the military threads they should have come up when the first military thread came about. Why **** up and question everything on the second one? I've slowly come to terms with the fact that the entire site had PMS that night and am beginning to forgive you [in my heart]. This is why I am writing you this post now. You are being beat up on and I feel for you mate. I know what its like. Now you have a taste of it and hopefully you will remember that we are all friends here but we have different opinions on things.

The most important thing you need to know now is that I'm cool with you and what happened when I was tring to do a good thing for our boys. So this PM is probably just as good for you as it is for me.

I truly hope all goes well with the wife and you. Good luck

I hope you read this PM with the friendship that it is sent with.

PP

So there is the full text of it. What am I not portraying accurately? I did not mean to make your PM sound bad at all, just voicing my hurt over the fact that the mods would even consider banning me for voicing my opinion on a thread which I donated money on. I was under the impression that people thought higher of me here but it has become blazingly aparent that I am just a thorn in everyone's side and am "that guy" which just pisses everyone off with everything I say. I don't want to be that person anymore so i'm out. Even on my "goodbye" thread there is controversy with a mod for god's sake.

[Premium Parrots]

I'll suggest one more time for you two to simply "forget" what was said in the past, and reconcile.

The only other option is continued hostility, and that never ends well for both parties (and those around them).

I've said my piece. It's up to you two to decide what's best. I'm staying out of this from here on out. I just hope you two can reach peaceful terms.

Dear Crow, thats what I was trying to do when I PMd sgreger. So we can have peace. But he came back publicly with inaccuracys leading members to believe somethingS that are totally not true.

I'm an older gentleman and I don't flare up at the little things. I have said several times thru PM and publically that I want peace here. And I still do. You may leave or not Sgreger, thats up to you man. I will have no further comments on this thread in the hope that peace will speak for me.

[Premium Parrots]

PP I'm not sure what you are going on about mate I didn't mean to put your PM in a negative context and i'm not sure why you are even discussing it in this thread. Here is the full contents of the PM so that it absolutely cannot be taken out of context. I hope you can calm down, I am not disagreeing with anything you said. You sent a loving and well meaning PM and I thank you for it, now please stop being mad at me.

I'm fine with you posting my entire pm. Actually, I want to thank you for that. Maybe some of the member will understand now....if they even care. The bits and pieces you quoted previously....well, some of it was inaccurate. Thats what pissed me off.

[Frosted]

I've stayed out of this but this is important to me. Maybe now is not appropriate but I don't care. That's a nice PM but I want everybody to know that I would not be at all happy about somebody posting a PM from me on the forum and hope that it will never happen. A PM is a PM and it should stay that way. I'm glad you're cool with that though PP.

I hate to see this kind of thing happening. It's sh**. It really is dragging the bottom and gets everybody down.
Sgreger - take some time out and come back but don't go. I know from your posts, because I recognise the manner of your posts in myself that things are stressful right now. I've been there dragging what's happening inside my head stress wise onto the forum and getting a kicking from the members for it, but you always bounce back when your head clears and everybody's friends. We are all friends. I don't mean to be patronising and if I'm wrong tell me. It'll blow over.

[Snusdog]

Woa

First......Sgreger I certainly hope you do not leave

I also agree with Crow (and the others)..........let's all allow the water flow under the bridge...............until is clears a bit........

Second, Sgreger..........I am so sorry to hear about the family situation........... if there is any way I can help (even if it is just to be a sounding board) you can PM me at any time

Again...........I would hate to see you go.............and I think........maybe............a familiar group of friends will be a good thing for you to hang onto.

[Roo]

Stew you are one of the handful of members that make me want to engage on this website, year after year. I know I'm not the only one. Most people show up for a while then disappear. You are one exceedingly intelligent and hilarious son of a bitch, and I personally would hate to see you go. I don't dick around on other forums, this is the one for me, so I would bet in the last 4 years I have "talked" to you and read your writings more than any other single person. That sounds ****ed up but I bet it's true. You've PM'd me during hard times and offered assistance, and always been there to have a laugh. What I'm trying to say is that you're a friend, and without guys like you, snusdog, Extreme, GN, Blue, Whalen, grandmaster PP and some others who have been dropping by damn near daily for years... this place would be shit. It's your humor and insight that makes you so worthy of this whining that I am doing right now. Look how many posts you have, and they are all ****ing 5 or 6 paragraphs long. I know if you leave here you will post that shit somewhere else, but I won't know where to find it. At least I have your email address. Stick around hoser. Will ya?

[Snusdog]

Stew you are one of the handful of members that make me want to engage on this website, year after year. I know I'm not the only one. Most people show up for a while then disappear. You are one exceedingly intelligent and hilarious son of a bitch, and I personally would hate to see you go. I don't dick around on other forums, this is the one for me, so I would bet in the last 4 years I have "talked" to you and read your writings more than any other single person. That sounds ****ed up but I bet it's true. You've PM'd me during hard times and offered assistance, and always been there to have a laugh. What I'm trying to say is that you're a friend, and without guys like you, snusdog, Extreme, GN, Blue, grandmaster PP and some others who have been dropping by damn near daily for years... this place would be shit. It's your humor and insight that makes you so worthy of this whining that I am doing right now. Look how many posts you have, and they are all ****ing 5 or 6 paragraphs long. I know if you leave here you will post that shit somewhere else, but I won't know where to find it. At least I have your email address. Stick around hoser. Will ya?

Exactly............well put Roo!!!

[CoderGuy]

Stew you are one of the handful of members that make me want to engage on this website, year after year. I know I'm not the only one. Most people show up for a while then disappear. You are one exceedingly intelligent and hilarious son of a bitch, and I personally would hate to see you go. I don't dick around on other forums, this is the one for me, so I would bet in the last 4 years I have "talked" to you and read your writings more than any other single person. That sounds ****ed up but I bet it's true. You've PM'd me during hard times and offered assistance, and always been there to have a laugh. What I'm trying to say is that you're a friend, and without guys like you, snusdog, Extreme, GN, Blue, grandmaster PP and some others who have been dropping by damn near daily for years... this place would be shit. It's your humor and insight that makes you so worthy of this whining that I am doing right now. Look how many posts you have, and they are all ****ing 5 or 6 paragraphs long. I know if you leave here you will post that shit somewhere else, but I won't know where to find it. At least I have your email address. Stick around hoser. Will ya?

Excellent post!

[sgreger1]

I've stayed out of this but this is important to me. Maybe now is not appropriate but I don't care. That's a nice PM but I want everybody to know that I would not be at all happy about somebody posting a PM from me on the forum and hope that it will never happen. A PM is a PM and it should stay that way. I'm glad you're cool with that though PP.

I hate to see this kind of thing happening. It's sh**. It really is dragging the bottom and gets everybody down.
Sgreger - take some time out and come back but don't go. I know from your posts, because I recognise the manner of your posts in myself that things are stressful right now. I've been there dragging what's happening inside my head stress wise onto the forum and getting a kicking from the members for it, but you always bounce back when your head clears and everybody's friends. We are all friends. I don't mean to be patronising and if I'm wrong tell me. It'll blow over.

That is what I said too, that I didn't want to post the full PM because it is rude to do that, but he kept claiming that I was lying about something and that I was posting things out of context and not showing the true loving nature of his PM so I posted the whole thing so that everyone could see how nice a PM it was and he can stop being mad at me. I'm sick of everyone in my life being mad at me. My daughter comes home today and says she "loves her mommy more", and she told the baby sitter than daddy got in a fight with mommy and told her to leave etc. It's just been a shitty day and now even ****ing PP, one of my long time friends, is finding reasons to have beef with me when I am just trying to be left alone. For all others who have a problem with me, I'm sorry for whatever it is I did to make you upset at me, we are all human, please let it go. Thank you.

[Crow]

It's just been a shitty day and now even ****ing PP, one of my long time friends, is finding reasons to have beef with me when I am just trying to be left alone.

PP has extended his hand. I'd suggest you do the same. Let's put all this shit behind us.

[Premium Parrots]

That is what I said too, that I didn't want to post the full PM because it is rude to do that, but he kept claiming that I was lying about something and that I was posting things out of context and not showing the true loving nature of his PM so I posted the whole thing so that everyone could see how nice a PM it was and he can stop being mad at me. I'm sick of everyone in my life being mad at me. My daughter comes home today and says she "loves her mommy more", and she told the baby sitter than daddy got in a fight with mommy and told her to leave etc. It's just been a shitty day and now even ****ing PP, one of my long time friends, is finding reasons to have beef with me when I am just trying to be left alone. For all others who have a problem with me, I'm sorry for whatever it is I did to make you upset at me, we are all human, please let it go. Thank you.

Thats what we are trying to tell you. Just let it go. we are cool. Take care of the wife. Nothing is more inportant than that man.

[Mrobin52]

Excellent post!

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I agree 100%. I'm probably one of those people that could be considered fairly inactive. So for what its worth I have been a member here for over 4 years, and even when I barely post I check the forum regularly. I have always enjoyed reading your posts sgregor. for years you have been a staple forum member . I would be very disappointed to see you go. Like Roo this is really the only forum I keep up with and even though I don't say much I enjoy it thoroughly. You really would be missed! No matter what happens, I wish you the best.

[rickcharles606]

circle jerk?? PP's the pivot man this time....