Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan - 1776 Will Commence Again' If Guns Taken Away

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  • OregonNative
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    • Aug 2009
    • 647

    Originally posted by Crow
    Shapiro did a MUCH better job presenting his case. He brought up a lot of good points and presented them as a responsible adult. He didn't scream, bring up "suicide pills", "9/11", or any other nonsense unrelated to the issue.

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    • Crow
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      • Oct 2010
      • 4312

      Absolutely. Piers Morgan picked the wrong fight to get involved in.

      The Beeb appears to share that sentiment.

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        Originally posted by Zimobog
        I would say they have the same natural human right to own firearms, a right that is denied by their governments. Not that I think America ought to do anything about it, just saying.




        Sir, I hope you will not take my post as disrespectful.



        No disrespect intended here, but "opinions" about the right to own firearms concern me about as much as someone else's opinion about who I ought to be allowed to marry or let eat in a resturant I might own or let sleep in my house. It is my right and not subject to the opinion of others. As in "shall not be infringed". But even without the Constitution, I would still have the natural right to self-protection and arming myself however I see fit. The founders simply wanted to recognize the natural right by mentioning it. Thank you, founders.

        "Shall not be infringed", as in not regulated. If you would not like me carry a firearm/knife/playboy mag/snus in your house, I can respect that. But that is where it ends.

        I don't have a problem with that, in fact, I think it should be even easier.

        I would recommend training just so you can use them safely for your own protection and that of others, but I would reject the idea that this should be a "law". If someone uses a firearm (or their fist or a rock) to hurt someone or does so with negligance, than they should face liability.

        What right does the government have to stop the private transfer of goods? None. The attempt to do so is under the "interstate commerce" clause of the Constitution. My own state rep introduced the "Alaska Firearms Freedom Act". Basically pointing out that firearms manufactured and sold within our own border are no business of the federal government. Only when the firearm travels across state lines does the federal gov even have slim grounds for oversight, but I would take exception to that. Not only is private transfer "right" it is a right, as in "shall not be infringed".

        IWhat about SUVs, chainsaws, motorcycles over 850ccs, ribbed condoms, malt liqour, or salt without iodine in it? I love all those things but some people don't. I hate those spinner rims, rap music, tootsie rolls, and those ugly bald cats, but I don't want them banned or not for sale if someone wants to buy them and someone else wants to sell them.

        I take it then sir, that you are some sort of LEO?

        Sir, I think your statements here make some broad assumptions about those of us who stand for the natural right of self-protection. I myself have been the personal victim of gun violence and also used a firearm to protect my own life. I have been a resident of one of those cities you mention. People like Roy Innis, NRA Board Member, have lost family to gun violence (2 sons in his case) and still fight daily for civil and natural rights. We know that when only police and violent criminals have firearms, the rest of us will suffer. When I went to Oakland last year, my first stop after the airport was the Home Depot for a carpet knife and a framing hammer. Cause I knew that I, a peaceful free citizen, would not be allowed to protect myself by the police while the police would be unable to protect me as they were too busy protecting San Fran-rich-co and not poor white trash who visit Oakland . Protection is my right, and my responsibility.

        I think that the violence in the street has a lot to do with drug prohibition. Ending the Drug War will end much of the violence the same way ending alcohol ended the violence surrounding Prohibition. The flow of illegal drugs and the flow of illegitimate violence are connected at the hip in the same way as during the years in which America was denied booze by a voting majority. The violence involved between turfwars between gangs, the theft of property, and retaliation for both are all failures of the Drug War.








        You seem like a good person and a honest man. You are indeed entitled to your own opinion. I just wanted to respond to some of these opinions and I hope I have done so in civil manner.


        Drop that knowledge on em Zimobog!

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        • SnusoMatic
          Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 507

          Originally posted by Crow
          Absolutely. Piers Morgan picked the wrong fight to get involved in.

          The Beeb appears to share that sentiment.

          That's great. He admitted that he's not a journalist and I agree with him about that.

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          • SnusoMatic
            Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 507

            Originally posted by OregonNative
            Shapiro did a MUCH better job presenting his case. He brought up a lot of good points and presented them as a responsible adult. He didn't scream, bring up "suicide pills", "9/11", or any other nonsense unrelated to the issue.
            I just watched the video and i agree that he acted more like I would like to see someone act. Right after I watched Alex Jones and Morgan I thought Jones was a screw up. Now.... I ain't gonna say Jones acted "right" but he did voice the opinions in the way many people out there would like. So did he represent me? Yes and no. But I sure don't see anyone who legally represents me speaking up on this matter in public. and before someone ask, yes I HAVE written my Representative and Congressman about this issue....bunch of worthless #%&*@&

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            • truthwolf1
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 2696

              For the love of conspiracy

              http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy...heories-2013-1

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              • texasmade
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 4159

                All I have to say on the matter is this: Banning/outlawing anything that has a demand will only create a black market for it further increasing any violence linked to that good. A perfect example would be the War on Drugs.

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                • Bigblue1
                  Banned Users
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3923

                  Originally posted by texasmade
                  All I have to say on the matter is this: Banning/outlawing anything that has a demand will only create a black market for it further increasing any violence linked to that good. A perfect example would be the War on Drugs.
                  Yeah if we make guns illegal maybe The Canadian government will just supply our cartels on the border with real automatics. They'll have to come up with a better name than Fast and Furious tho.

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                  • truthwolf1
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2696

                    Mexican citizens are very much at the Mercy of armed gangs by being disarmed.

                    There also seems to be higher homicide rates in cities with the most stringent gun laws here in the USA.

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                    • Bigblue1
                      Banned Users
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3923

                      For a guy whose so against guns he sure says he'd use them a lot.....



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                      • truthwolf1
                        Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2696

                        You've just been Sandy Hooked - why everything from politics to health care is pure theater

                        http://www.naturalnews.com/038799_Sa...r_reality.html

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