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  • Crow
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    • Oct 2010
    • 4312

    State moves toward gender-neutral language

    State officials have been changing the language used in many laws, including thousands of words and phrases, many written more than a century ago when the idea of women working on police forces or on fishing boats wasn’t a consideration.


    Text from printed piece of legislation is shown with corrections to make it gender-neutral.

    OLYMPIA — In Washington state, dairymen, freshmen and even penmanship soon could be words of the past.

    Over the past six years, state officials have engaged in the onerous task of changing the language used in the state’s copious laws, including thousands of words and phrases, many written more than a century ago when the idea of women working on police forces or on fishing boats wasn’t a consideration.

    That process is to draw to a close this year. So while the state already has welcomed “firefighters,” “clergy” and “police officers” into its lexicon, “ombuds” (in place of ombudsman) and “security guards” (previously “watchmen,”) appear to be next, along with “dairy farmers,” “first-year students” and “handwriting.”

    “Some people would say ‘oh, it’s not a big thing, do you really have to go through the process of changing the language,’” said Seattle City Councilmember Sally Clark, who was one of the catalysts for the change. “But language matters. It’s how we signal a level of respect for each other.”

    About half of all U.S. states have moved toward such gender-neutral language at varying levels, from drafting bills to changing state constitutions, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Florida and Minnesota already have completely revised their laws as Washington state is doing.

    The final installment of Washington state’s bill already has sailed through the Senate Commerce and Labor Committee with unanimous approval. The nearly 500-page bill has one more committee stop scheduled before full Senate debate.

    Crispin Thurlow, a sociolinguist and associate professor of language and communication at the University of Washington, Bothell, said the project was admirable.

    He said as language evolves, such efforts are more than symbolic.

    “Changing words can change what we think about the world around us,” he said. “These tiny moments accrue and become big movements.”

    Clark and former Seattle City Councilmember Jan Drago — the Seattle council has long eschewed the terms “councilwoman” or “councilman” — brought the issue to Sen. Jeannie Kohl-Welles in 2006 after they came across references to firemen and policemen in the mayor’s proposed budget, as well as in state law dealing with local-government pensions.

    Clark and Drago’s findings sparked the initial gender-neutral language law that was passed in 2007, immediately changing those terms and directing the state code reviser’s office to do a full revision of the rest of the code. A 1983 Washington state law already had required all new statutes to be written in gender-neutral terms, so state officials were tasked with going through the rest of state statutes dating back to 1854 to revise the rest.

    As in past bills on the issue that have tackled sections of the state code, some revisions were as simple as adding “or her” after “his.” Others required a little more scrutiny. Phrases like “man’s past” change to “humankind’s past,” and a “prudent man or woman” is simply a “prudent person.”

    Kyle Thiessen, the state’s code reviser who has been working on the project along with two attorneys since 2008, said that the work was not without obstacles.

    Words like “manhole” and “manlock” aren’t so easily replaced, he said. Substitutes have been suggested — “utility hole” and “air lock serving as a decompression chamber for workers.” But Thiessen said those references will be left alone to avoid confusion.

    Republican state Rep. Shelly Short, of Addy, has voted against earlier gender-neutral language bills and said she plans to do the same this year.

    “I don’t see the need to do gender neutrality,” she said, adding that her constituents want her to focus on jobs and the economy. “We’re women and we’re men.”

    Kohl-Welles, who has sponsored each of the gender-neutral language bills, said that while this project hasn’t been her top legislation every year, “overall, it has important significance.”

    “I believe,” she said, “that the culture has changed.”
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    I've heard a lot of comments about this locally, but I'd like to gauge your opinion... Chime in.
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  • CzechCzar
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    • Jun 2010
    • 1144

    #2
    *retarded*

    Originally posted by Crow
    State officials have been changing the language used in many laws, including thousands of words and phrases, many written more than a century ago when the idea of women working on police forces or on fishing boats wasn’t a consideration.


    Text from printed piece of legislation is shown with corrections to make it gender-neutral.



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    I've heard a lot of comments about this locally, but I'd like to gauge your opinion... Chime in.

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    • Crow
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      • Oct 2010
      • 4312

      #3
      Originally posted by CzechCzar
      *retarded*
      I've heard that one already...

      Anyone else have a differing opinion?
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      • lxskllr
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        • Sep 2007
        • 13435

        #4
        How about waste of money, and a whitewash of history?

        Edit:
        grammar

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        • Frankie Reloaded
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          • Jan 2011
          • 541

          #5
          Originally posted by Crow
          I've heard that one already...

          Anyone else have a differing opinion?
          Oh, yes, of course.

          It is an ingenious move, but a rather old one. This guy, Eric Arthur Blair from India, described the system of improving language towards beautiful society back in 1948 and published it less than a year later for all state officials to watch and learn. I guess the Washington ones were sort of dumb/slow*: it took them better part of a century to implement his ideas for real.

          * isn´t retarded just another word for slow?

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          • Thunder_Snus
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            • Oct 2011
            • 1316

            #6
            lets show gender equality by dropping everything imporant so we can refer to people as "policeperson" instead of "policeman." I'm all for not discriminating against anyone but this just seems....stupid. It's like the hippy girls hanging out outside of buildings at my college talking about equality. They would like to be paid the same amount as men but would still like to receive free food and drinks on dates. Told them to read about equality in sweden. Meals are split. vacations are split. doors are not held open. They had no response. Equality is something almost everyone says they want until they realize what it is.

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            • Burnsey
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              • Jan 2013
              • 2572

              #7
              It appears that only men are answering the original question, so what is the point?

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              • squeezyjohn
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                • Jan 2008
                • 2497

                #8
                Originally posted by lxskllr
                How about waste of money, and a whitewash of history?

                Edit:
                grammar
                correction: grammar or grammpar
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                • Crow
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 4312

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Frankie Reloaded
                  Oh, yes, of course.

                  It is an ingenious move, but a rather old one. This guy, Eric Arthur Blair from India, described the system of improving language towards beautiful society back in 1948 and published it less than a year later for all state officials to watch and learn. I guess the Washington ones were sort of dumb/slow*: it took them better part of a century to implement his ideas for real.

                  * isn´t retarded just another word for slow?
                  That's the answer I was looking for!

                  You're right... We are late to the party. But the way I see it..... Better late than never.
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                  • Nuusku
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 993

                    #10
                    Solving all the big problems, one at a time.

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