Solid State Plates

[Darwin]

Today's monstrously Orwellian idea:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/11/s...plates-w-poll/

This would be thoroughly hacked before any of these ever appeared on a vehicle.

[lxskllr]

Cause electronic toll collectors, and plate readers don't give enough coverage, right? Terrible idea from a privacy standpoint, but it has intriguing hacking possibilities. The hard part would be spoofing the transponder so a cop scanning the signal won't see anything unusual.

[Snusdog]

South Carolina may soon lead the way into the future

Don't forget.....to auto change a plate's status means you must have some way to track and locate that plate.

Given the recent hoopla over the government's information gathering.........I doubt this will fly (or roll)


Regardless........how come SC has to be the dumbass state..........that's what we have Mississippi and Arkansas for

[truthwolf1]

IF a majority of citizens do not want this implemented then you can bet your elected state government officials will listen to their federal rulers and inact this policy anyways.

There will be a lot of money to pocket from the expensive startup charges.

[lxskllr]

GPS is cheap. Add that, and they can mail tickets directly to your house. It'll be like a monthly bill, cause anyone that says they don't break traffic laws either doesn't drive, or is a filthy liar. In the "wrong" part of town? A friendly police officer will check you out, and make sure he likes your story... There's so many ways to abuse technology, and cloak it as though it's a feature, the brainless masses will welcome, and champion it.

[devilock76]

Don't forget.....to auto change a plate's status means you must have some way to track and locate that plate.

Given the recent hoopla over the government's information gathering.........I doubt this will fly (or roll)


Regardless........how come SC has to be the dumbass state..........that's what we have Mississippi and Arkansas for

I consider SC the NJ of the south...

Ken

[devilock76]

GPS is cheap. Add that, and they can mail tickets directly to your house. It'll be like a monthly bill, cause anyone that says they don't break traffic laws either doesn't drive, or is a filthy liar. In the "wrong" part of town? A friendly police officer will check you out, and make sure he likes your story... There's so many ways to abuse technology, and cloak it as though it's a feature, the brainless masses will welcome, and champion it.

It is the "NOW" society that we have become. No one sees the long term implications, they just see the short game in such things. They want it NOW NOW NOW, but most aren't willing to build something. I see it over and over again and it sickens me. We became a superpower from those that built, not those that consume...

Ken

[Riggins44]

They already have "smart" parking meters that detect when a vehicle parks or leaves a space to reset itself. You wouldn't want to give someone 8 cents worth of leftover time.

So with the these and the ability to know where your car is you get a ticket the second it runs out of time. Rat bastards.

[trebli]

Today's monstrously Orwellian idea:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/11/s...plates-w-poll/

This would be thoroughly hacked before any of these ever appeared on a vehicle.

I think it is a bad idea. But would you believe that according to a poll on the article you linked a full 40% of the readers wanted it?

[Crow]

I guess I'll be the sole dissenter here..

I think it's a great idea, especially in cases of amber alerts, or when a vehicle has been reported stolen.

The technology needs to be refined a bit first, but the finished product should look great.

Have you seen my state's electronic tolling system? Pretty nifty...

[lxskllr]

The state of Minnesota, for instance, legalized same-sex marriage this year, but sodomy laws had effectively made homosexuality itself completely illegal in that state until 2001. Likewise, before the recent changes making marijuana legal for personal use in Washington and Colorado, it was obviously not legal for personal use.

Imagine if there were an alternate dystopian reality where law enforcement was 100% effective, such that any potential law offenders knew they would be immediately identified, apprehended, and jailed. If perfect law enforcement had been a reality in Minnesota, Colorado, and Washington since their founding in the 1850s, it seems quite unlikely that these recent changes would have ever come to pass. How could people have decided that marijuana should be legal, if nobody had ever used it? How could states decide that same sex marriage should be permitted, if nobody had ever seen or participated in a same sex relationship?

Law enforcement used to be harder. If a law enforcement agency wanted to track someone, it required physically assigning a law enforcement agent to follow that person around. Tracking everybody would be inconceivable, because it would require having as many law enforcement agents as people.

Today things are very different. Almost everyone carries a tracking device (their mobile phone) at all times, which reports their location to a handful of telecoms, which are required by law to provide that information to the government. Tracking everyone is no longer inconceivable, and is in fact happening all the time. We know that Sprint alone responded to eight million pings for real time customer location just in 2008. They got so many requests that they built an automated system to handle them.

Combined with ballooning law enforcement budgets, this trend towards automation, which includes things like license plate scanners and domestically deployed drones, represents a significant shift in the way that law enforcement operates.

Police already abuse the immense power they have, but if everyone’s every action were being monitored, and everyone technically violates some obscure law at some time, then punishment becomes purely selective. Those in power will essentially have what they need to punish anyone they’d like, whenever they choose, as if there were no rules at all.

Even ignoring this obvious potential for new abuse, it’s also substantially closer to that dystopian reality of a world where law enforcement is 100% effective, eliminating the possibility to experience alternative ideas that might better suit us.

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/06...-surveillance/

[GoVegan]

They have talked about doing that in California for a few years now. They want to sell ads.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...lawmakers.html

[Crow]

They have talked about doing that in California for a few years now. They want to sell ads.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...lawmakers.html

Now that's a completely different story. I would be firmly against that.

I must say... California is ****ing up as of late.

[GoVegan]

Now that's a completely different story. I would be firmly against that.

I must say... California is ****ing up as of late.

No kidding. California also came up with a plan to sell advertising on the electronic freeway warning signs. Currently, the state is fighting to install pay to park stations at a bunch of beaches in Northern California. They are hoping to collect $7.00 for each vehicle that visits the beach.

When I was a kid, I remember that it was very common to see pay toilets inside of stores. You had to insert a dime to be able to open the bathroom door. I think we are going back to that trend.

[truthwolf1]

I think it is a bad idea. But would you believe that according to a poll on the article you linked a full 40% of the readers wanted it?

I am not sure about some of these propaganda induced polls and how the questions are asked. This recent one in MN threw me for a loop but MSM media has done a fine job cleaning up on the NSA scandal.

It looks like the highest supporters of spying on American citizenry in MN are old female democrats making 50,000 dollars or more per year.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/211578381.html