People that Won’t Survive when SHTF

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  • wa3zrm
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    • May 2009
    • 4436

    #1

    People that Won’t Survive when SHTF

    The Modern Survivalist ^ |
    It happened a few years ago during a trip to USA for the Self Reliance expo in Utah. After the expo we decided to go have dinner to this place nearby. Jack Spirko was driving and as he turned to enter a parking lot he had to hit the breaks to avoid running over a woman and her two brats that just walked in front of the car without a care in the world. “People like these, they will be the first ones to go when SHTF” said Jack.
    You know what? Jack was right. People like that are the ones that will suffer the most during disasters, even the ones that are more likely to die as life gets harder.
    Now that I live in a more civilized part of the world I see it all the time as well. Whenever we witness some Darwin defying stupidity, my wife usually shakes her head and says “some of these people, they wouldn’t last a week in Argentina without getting killed”, and I know she’s right on a number of levels.
    First, there’s that level of utter stupidity that makes zombies look like theoretical physicists. These are people that that not only walk without the most basic level of awareness, as in the minimum required not to get run over by cars when crossing the street and playing with your cellphone, but they also lack the most elemental parenting instinct so as to watch over their kids too. I’ve lost count already of the people that I’ve seen walking and crossing the street as if walking across their living room. I’m 100% certain that as my wife says, these people would be dead within a week in Buenos Aires just because of buses, taxi drivers, lack of proper street signaling and the average nutcase behind the wheel which is the typical Argentine driver.
    I see parents letting they kids wonder away like they wouldn’t do with the dog they are walking, taking for granted that some good Samaritan will find their kid and return it to them, rather that kidnap the child for ransom or worse.
    Then there’s the absolute ignorance regarding anything that slightly resembles home and personal security. People might as well put signs on the door saying please rob me. The doors and lock themselves are a joke which is bad enough, but then to make it even worse people leave their doors opened all the time. I’ve lost count of the people that came to my home to deliver something or do some repairing and were stunned that I dare close the gate to my back yard! You close your front AND BACK door? Madness! Again, you don’t get away with that for long in most of South America.
    To some degree I can somehow justify most of it. They walk like children in a playground because they are used to cars stopping waiting for them to cross. They take for granted the drivers will see them, will stop, will be responsible drivers. They just aren’t used to moving around in a world where a third of the people driving wouldn’t have passed a proper driving test or bus drivers that, I kid you not, at least half of them are clinically insane.
    Same goes for security. People here, most of them have never been mugged in their life, most have never seen the wrong end of a gun barrel. They’ve never suffered a home invasion or even know friends of family that have gone through that. Its all so distant and unreal to them. Not long ago there was this scam going around here. A guy would knock on people’s door, claim to be from the power or cable company saying there was a problem with their billing, and people would downright give them their credit card and banking information! In Buenos Aires I doubt anyone would have opened the door to them, let alone give away you credit card like that.
    If we add to this the general self-indulgence and lack of maturity shown by many adults, then you start wondering how will a lot of these people fare even with a slight degradation of their perfectly safe, idiot-proof world.
    There’s always exceptions, but for some reason they seem to be a clear minority. A significant number of people cant take care of themselves, let alone their kids. They struggle during the good times they wouldn’t even know where to begin in the bad ones.
    People have to toughen up. They have to become more aware, more responsible for themselves and their own families. I’m not even talking about material preparations here. I’m talking about a significant change of mindset and attitude towards life, one that those lacking it have no way of making it if disaster or even just hard times strike.
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  • Ansel
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 3696

    #2
    we need permaculture to heal the world.

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    • Frankie Reloaded
      Banned Users
      • Jan 2011
      • 541

      #3
      The author expects these people to be as reckless when the SHTF. I would say their behavior would change in a matter of minutes, maybe days. In a safe environment you behave differently.

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      • Faylool
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 496

        #4
        True. I was once a gullible innocent and was outraged when I learned my life was a lie. I like believing I'm safe and the world is sane and good and we are looking out for each other. I still try to operate on this notion in my initial contacts but of course walking out in front of cars is not one of my modes! Got to find a balance I guess and absolutely. Intelligent peoples behavior would be different in a given environment. Adaptability. Unnecessary adaptations is paranoid

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        • Riggins44
          Member
          • May 2013
          • 64

          #5
          Originally posted by Frankie Reloaded
          The author expects these people to be as reckless when the SHTF. I would say their behavior would change in a matter of minutes, maybe days. In a safe environment you behave differently.
          Yeah, I agree. Give people a week without food and see how they change real fast.

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          • lxskllr
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 13435

            #6
            I agree with the article, but not their examples. There's a lot of reasons people are useless, but those aren't it.

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            • whalen
              Member
              • May 2009
              • 6593

              #7
              We should be fine if you followed the recommendation to keep plenty of plastic sheeting and duct tape on hand.
              wiki "Popcorn Sutton" a true COOT!

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              • Frankie Reloaded
                Banned Users
                • Jan 2011
                • 541

                #8
                BTW, one of the arguments for people who claim my nation is full of uncivilized barbarians goes like this: In civilized countries you can walk right out in front of a car! THEY are decent people, THEY respect the pedestrians/cyclists/whoever, but you Slovaks don´t

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                • squeezyjohn
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2497

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ansel
                  we need permaculture to heal the world.
                  ^^ This
                  Squeezyjohn

                  Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                  • Skell18
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 7067

                    #10
                    Originally posted by squeezyjohn
                    ^^ This
                    Nah, we need snus to heal the world!

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                    • OregonNative
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 647

                      #11
                      When I lived in Florida (central), we got hit with a few hurricanes (nothing serious), and I swear people were helpless without electricity. We as a society have become so dependent on electricity, mobile phones, internet, etc. I swear 80% of the population would have nothing to do with themselves without such things.

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                      • Skell18
                        Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 7067

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OregonNative
                        When I lived in Florida (central), we got hit with a few hurricanes (nothing serious), and I swear people were helpless without electricity. We as a society have become so dependent on electricity, mobile phones, internet, etc. I swear 80% of the population would have nothing to do with themselves without such things.
                        The other 20% have fleshlights so would never notice if there was no power

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                        • GoVegan
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 5603

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Skell18
                          The other 20% have fleshlights so would never notice if there was no power
                          Great idea - we can invent a generator that hooks up to a fleshlight.

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                          • SnusoMatic
                            Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 507

                            #14
                            many people think humans are in control of the world. by the time they wake up it will be too late.

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                            • Skell18
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 7067

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GoVegan
                              Great idea - we can invent a generator that hooks up to a fleshlight.
                              I will sort out the legal stuff, you build a prototype! I hear Whalen and PP knocked up a rudimentary one some time ago, may just borrow that and make it give you less shocks and reduce the chaffing!

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