Originally posted by Snusdog
Not exactly.....society has determined on rational, moral, and scientific grounds that melatonin does not determine species. Regardless of how popular....or which side of the debate over same sex you promote...........the same cannot be said.......(and please........I am not saying that one side is less human than the other..........rather I am saying that neither side has demonstrated that their view is the legitimate expression of said humanity.....mainly because neither side can clearly articulate what it means to be human....both as individual and an individual in society)
I like Elephant tusks....I want Elephant tusks....I demand my right to own Elephant tusks and not to be excluded by the prejudice of the owners of plastic goods............is that all there is to it ..........or does the discussion encompassed a wider spectrum of consideration...........if so........what spectrum and why.............is that spectrum limited to the matter at hand......or is it indicative of a wider stance towards the world..........if you have no idea what I am talking about.............Why not?........is it that I am stupid......or is it that this entire debate has missed the essential elements of the debate necessary to adjudicate the resolve.
Just because your buddy Joe and his step daughter Linda as well as a guy in your office named Ralf agree with your position does not mean that (a) you have grasped the fundamental issue at stake.....or (b) that you are correct in your resolve of that issue.....regardless of how popular in your own selective circle that resolve may be.
My problem with all the answers given in this entire discussion (on both sides) is that none of these answers exhibit a basic understanding of the question...........we are merely playing darts in the dark with no idea of where the target is located or even if there is a target…..we are simply parroting the blindness of our favorite talk shows and columnists
As such, the truly tragic in all this is not that one side may win out over the other.....but....regardless of which side wins..... the tragedy is how they will have won....and the fact that in the end....it will not matter who won because each side is simply the same basic argument (just with different preferred expressions of that position).
In other words I declare Frankie and Crow to be essentially exactly the same. One may insist on jeans the other slacks.......but in the end they both are for pants.
I like Elephant tusks....I want Elephant tusks....I demand my right to own Elephant tusks and not to be excluded by the prejudice of the owners of plastic goods............is that all there is to it ..........or does the discussion encompassed a wider spectrum of consideration...........if so........what spectrum and why.............is that spectrum limited to the matter at hand......or is it indicative of a wider stance towards the world..........if you have no idea what I am talking about.............Why not?........is it that I am stupid......or is it that this entire debate has missed the essential elements of the debate necessary to adjudicate the resolve.
Just because your buddy Joe and his step daughter Linda as well as a guy in your office named Ralf agree with your position does not mean that (a) you have grasped the fundamental issue at stake.....or (b) that you are correct in your resolve of that issue.....regardless of how popular in your own selective circle that resolve may be.
My problem with all the answers given in this entire discussion (on both sides) is that none of these answers exhibit a basic understanding of the question...........we are merely playing darts in the dark with no idea of where the target is located or even if there is a target…..we are simply parroting the blindness of our favorite talk shows and columnists
As such, the truly tragic in all this is not that one side may win out over the other.....but....regardless of which side wins..... the tragedy is how they will have won....and the fact that in the end....it will not matter who won because each side is simply the same basic argument (just with different preferred expressions of that position).
In other words I declare Frankie and Crow to be essentially exactly the same. One may insist on jeans the other slacks.......but in the end they both are for pants.
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