Anyone here trying to buy Obamacare?

[truthwolf1]

By the way ... my grandad fought Hitler in the war ... and although his stories had that gloss of an old soldier who has the nostalgia and gravitas ... the sheer evil of the Nazi regime is something that I live with every day. This is a man who's opinions I will never doubt because he was there - and I sat on his knee while he told me about the atrocities. He was a very gentle and good man, forced against his pacifist tendencies in to fighting for the right side. I know that for sure.

Be very careful in my presence of trivialising quite how bad what the Nazi's did was. That's all I'm attempting to say. It's easy to say someone is like Hitler - much harder to understand the gravity of that kind of comparison.

I heard the same stories from my grandparents about the Communist atrocities. The number one reason why I grew up in the USA.

Of course Obama is not a hitler or stalin but Obamacare will definately be implemented in a corporate fascist way upon those that do not want to buy insurance. Similar to car insurance over time.

Most Americans I believe would be very open to a Socialized system similar to France but this is not what this is. This is basically the same overpriced corporate system and making everybody a part of it at different levels of "affordable care".

I went to my states exchange and for my family a $385 dollar monthly premium with a $11,000 dollar deductible if somebody needs serious treatment.
or around $735 a month with a $1200 dollar deductible.

Within a few years that number will probably be hitting a $1000 dollars a month with a $3-4000 deductible!

[truthwolf1]

Bottom line is its possible that the only way to have the US economy thrive is when health care is our main business. But really I don't know shit about this other than I've very confident about that statement. However I suggest that if you invest in the stock market make dam sure a good portion of your portfolio is invested in some sector of healthcare. That's where the money will be.

Everybody will be taking care of or looking out for somebody in the coming years with the larger aging population. Our landline has not seen seen so much action in years.

Many boomers will however leave to get surgical care elsewhere for a fraction of the cost unless things change here.

[Burnsey]

...........I went to my states exchange and for my family a $385 dollar monthly premium with a $11,000 dollar deductible if somebody needs serious treatment.
or around $735 a month with a $1200 dollar deductible.............

This was a common method of finding affordable insurance back when my kids were young, 80's and 90's. As long as everybody is reasonably young and healthy you can pay as you go and insurance is just for the catastrophic events. But that is expensive even by today's standards. You pay as go either way and bet that you will be well using the high deductible or bet that you will need more care with the lower deductible.

[truthwolf1]

This was a common method of finding affordable insurance back when my kids were young, 80's and 90's. As long as everybody is reasonably young and healthy you can pay as you go and insurance is just for the catastrophic events. But that is expensive even by today's standards. You pay as go either way and bet that you will be well using the high deductible or bet that you will need more care with the lower deductible.

It's definately a gamble and our overpriced system is also the leading cause of personal bankruptcy in this country.

[Thunder_Snus]

I heard the same stories from my grandparents about the Communist atrocities. The number one reason why I grew up in the USA.

Of course Obama is not a hitler or stalin but Obamacare will definately be implemented in a corporate fascist way upon those that do not want to buy insurance. Similar to car insurance over time.

Most Americans I believe would be very open to a Socialized system similar to France but this is not what this is. This is basically the same overpriced corporate system and making everybody a part of it at different levels of "affordable care".

I went to my states exchange and for my family a $385 dollar monthly premium with a $11,000 dollar deductible if somebody needs serious treatment.
or around $735 a month with a $1200 dollar deductible.

Within a few years that number will probably be hitting a $1000 dollars a month with a $3-4000 deductible!

Car insurance is required while health isnt because without health insurance you die...without car insurance other's die or pay for bodily injury or property damage you were responsible for. That is unless you live in New Hampshire

[wa3zrm]

Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates (NJ - 800,000)


Nearly 800,000 New Jersey residents’ health-care plans will not longer exist in 2014, forcing insurers to create new ones for individuals and small business owners that hew to the Obamacare’s new regulations, The New Jersey Star Ledger found in early October.

“I don’t feel like I need to change, but I have to,” Jeff Learned, a television editor in Los Angeles, told Kaiser Health News. Learned now needs to scramble to find a plan to coverage his teenage daughter, whose health problems have required several surgeries.

More Americans have lost their individual health coverage in Florida and California than have gotten past the login screen on HealthCare.gov, according to The Washington Post, which reports that 476,000 applications have “been started,” but not completed. HealthCare.gov’s dysfunctional website has helped enrollment grind to almost a complete halt. (RELATED: HealthCare.gov contractor: We had only two weeks to test site)

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

[Premium Parrots]

You all knew this was coming....

[wa3zrm]

You all knew this was coming....

LMAO... didn't expect one this soon!

[Thunder_Snus]

You all knew this was coming....

I keep learning more and more german and each time i watch a redub of this I still can't understand a word he is saying.

[Thunder_Snus]

Health insurance cancellation notices soar above Obamacare enrollment rates (NJ - 800,000)


Nearly 800,000 New Jersey residents’ health-care plans will not longer exist in 2014, forcing insurers to create new ones for individuals and small business owners that hew to the Obamacare’s new regulations, The New Jersey Star Ledger found in early October.

“I don’t feel like I need to change, but I have to,” Jeff Learned, a television editor in Los Angeles, told Kaiser Health News. Learned now needs to scramble to find a plan to coverage his teenage daughter, whose health problems have required several surgeries.

More Americans have lost their individual health coverage in Florida and California than have gotten past the login screen on HealthCare.gov, according to The Washington Post, which reports that 476,000 applications have “been started,” but not completed. HealthCare.gov’s dysfunctional website has helped enrollment grind to almost a complete halt. (RELATED: HealthCare.gov contractor: We had only two weeks to test site)

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

To be fair those are the 3 states with the highest rate of Insurance fraud so I imagine their health care systems are currently set up in a very unique way. I'm not exactly sure if they are the top 3 but they are certainly the top 5 while Connecticut and New York may be in one of the higher spots.

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[squeezyjohn]

Now why couldn't any of you fine gentlemen here have put it like this. If this is essentially what is going on ... then that would make anyone hate him!

That's bonkers!