Someone has to pay...

[Frankie Reloaded]

The system did let her down. We need to have forced sterilization for everyone after the 3rd kid. If you can afford to have the sterilization procedure reversed, you can have more kids.

Double operation is a violation of the female body and that is a no-no. Much better approach would be for the Vegan government to ask for ransom after the third kid. If the ransom is not paid by the end of 1-st trimester, then the Pro-Choice principle would be applied (without choice). Of course, this law would only be used for Whites. Other races are oppressed so no restrictions for them.

(Sorry for the vegan ad hominem, but I thought not eating meat makes people less violent and whatnot. For a minute I completely forgot about the proverbial vegetarian of the Third Reich.)

[Ansel]

You bunch of racists can't you see, this woman is doing all you tax payers a favour.

[Ansel]

Leave my ex girlfriend outta this. I got serious spinal injuries and a cracked pelvis...the doc said no more reverse cowboy.

lol

:-D

[Chiliphil1]

I think the simple solution can be found in the original intent of welfare, snap, wic, etc.. Temporary assistance to those who truly need it, you can recieve assistance for say a maximum of 6 months if you report DAILY to the dept of labor to be given interviews to any jobs open which you would be required to attent to loose your assistance. If the system worked like that then situations like this would not exist, these programs are to help people through hard times, they are not meant as a career opportunity.

Let me state that I have no problem with these programs, believe me if not for snap there would have been a couple times that me and my family may have starved, but I don't expect yo live off of it and if the programs ended tomorrow it wouldn't bother me, it is meant to help not to be a parent who raises you.

[Ansel]

Temporary? 6 months? but you are always going to get people in circumstances when they simply just can't work as they have no legs or arms or brain or whatever.

[CoderGuy]

Temporary? 6 months? but you are always going to get people in circumstances when they simply just can't work as they have no legs or arms or brain or whatever.

People with no legs or arms can work, people with no brains become politicians (just look at congress)

[Ansel]

People with no legs or arms can work, people with no brains become politicians (just look at congress)

ok that may be the case but will you admit that there are some people that will never ever work not in 6 months not in 5 years? terminal disease sufferers and so on.

[Thunder_Snus]

How about just taking the kids away to foster care and not providing a dime to the mother? This is where all of our money is going, to provide stupid people with a better life. Forced sterilization is kind of shitty and not a path anyone should be going down but getting it reversed might prove an actual desire to have children. Hell they could do it at birth and then you could go get it reversed when you want to have children. It's not "forced sterilization" its just a preventative measure.

Either way it goes like this. If a couple has 2 children then theoretically the population will stay steady. 2 people die and the 2 children they had replace them. Of course there is infant death, auto accidents, premature death and other things so the actual number has to be a little more then 2. There will eventually need to be a time though when people have to accept the fact that religious traditions of having several children or just deciding you want 10 is something severely damaging to the earth. Those 10 have 10 or even 4 and suddenly 2 people just increased the population by 50. The earth doesn't need more people. We should be trying to maintain the current population or even trying to decrease it slightly. A big problem with unemployment is there are not enough jobs for everyone, not really a problem when there aren't as many people.

I don't plan on having children but respect those who wish to but I refuse to accept paying tax money to go toward irresponsible dumb shits who wouldn't stop shitting out kids with absolutely no means to support them. When you are raised in the environment that you don't have to do anything to take care of yourself you will most likely follow the same way of life and that 1 person who refused to work just taught 15 more people to do so.

[wa3zrm]

PP told me that he would sell the children to gypsies!

[Burnsey]

I think the simple solution can be found in the original intent of welfare, snap, wic, etc.. Temporary assistance to those who truly need it, you can recieve assistance for say a maximum of 6 months if you report DAILY to the dept of labor to be given interviews to any jobs open which you would be required to attent to loose your assistance. If the system worked like that then situations like this would not exist, these programs are to help people through hard times, they are not meant as a career opportunity.

Let me state that I have no problem with these programs, believe me if not for snap there would have been a couple times that me and my family may have starved, but I don't expect yo live off of it and if the programs ended tomorrow it wouldn't bother me, it is meant to help not to be a parent who raises you.

Imo, everybody can need a little help from time to time, but the system now trains people to survive on the system, a much different attitude toward help, " I'm entitled " ........is the problem.

[Ansel]

won't solve the current staus but in the future: education, education, education...

[Chiliphil1]

Temporary? 6 months? but you are always going to get people in circumstances when they simply just can't work as they have no legs or arms or brain or whatever.

Indeed, and that is where disability comes in, if you truly cannot work then sure, I see no problem with helping them out, however she's seems just fine to get a job so she shouldn't be allowed to ride the system. Another case being unemployment, it's temporary! When someone looses a job the government gives them money until they can find another one, with that being said it's not perminant therefore why should money for someone who doesn't work and is not willing to work be?

[CoderGuy]

ok that may be the case but will you admit that there are some people that will never ever work not in 6 months not in 5 years? terminal disease sufferers and so on.

Absolutely, people with advanced MS or ALS for instance.

[Thunder_Snus]

Imo, everybody can need a little help from time to time, but the system now trains people to survive on the system, a much different attitude toward help, " I'm entitled " ........is the problem.

This is exactly spot on. People get down on their luck. Make one bad decision or just find themselves in a spot where they truly need help. If i could sacrifice a little to get them back on their feet i think that is a huge contribution to society to show we have evolved past tribalism and have established an actual state of morality and helpfulness.
But this woman did not have one child and say "o shit im in trouble" she had 15. That is 135 months of pregnancy for her, or about 11.25 years. Give or take for if there were twins or not. She decided to keep getting plowed by dudes continuously through all of this. This is no longer a case of "oh no I messed up and need some help while i figure things out" this is a case of hey if i keep having more kids i get more welfare so im going to do it.

The US has evolved to a state of "lets give everyone everything especially if they are a minority so we dont seem racist." It's the classic child screaming at the store conundrum. If i get him this he will stop screaming....if i don't he may learn a valuable life lesson but he will continue to scream. Most people are always willing to take that short term incentive even though they know the trouble of the long term effects. Look at how the fed handled the money supply in the 80's.

Children may be a blessing and sure I could stretch it and say everyone who wants one deserves to have one, but when it comes at the expense of others a line has to be drawn. Others should not have to sacrifice to raise a child you should be providing for.

[Frankie Reloaded]

The commies over here never paid anybody (not working) who had not been certified by a medical committee as disabled. For those who were there was a scale to define how much disabled they were. E.g. if you got 50%, you still worked, but you were given a specially selected job which could be managed by a person of your type of disability. If you found your own & better, you did that. If you did not, you had to accept the offered employment. My wife (prenatal palsy & epilepsy) worked as a part-time telephone operator. The rest of her income was supplied by partial disability pension from the day she achieved the age of 18.

All the rest had to work to get any money from the government (or "state" as it was called then). There is always some work to do in human society, the problem usually is just the money. But if you pay the money anyway, it seems reasonable to require work in return. Everybody was also given housing; but everybody also had to work. What do you think? Fair? Remember: this must be bad.