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  • wa3zrm
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    • May 2009
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    Brit's may be getting an ass kicking! (Humor Intended)

    Argentina Prepares to Go to War Against Britain or Argentines

    Argentina is preparing for a war either against Britain or Argentines. No one is sure as the country acquires military hardware that includes, jet fighters, anti-aircraft guns and specialized radar. The news came late Saturday night, just a few months before oil drilling begins in the Falkland Islands area.

    Besieged by runaway inflation, corruption and inefficiency in government as well as being impotent to stop rampant crime, Argentina’s failing President, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, seems to be taking a page from history’s playbook. In January she created a new cabinet position, Secretary for the Malvinas, Argentina’s name for the Falklands.
    Kirchner has set aside $750 million, a 33 percent rise, for over 30 military modernization programs. In addition to the aircraft and anti-aircraft weaponry, Kirchner is also using some of the set aside to buy medium tanks, transport aircraft as well as rocket systems, helicopters and the development of drones. Casa Rosada, “The Pink House,” announced that new commando and special forces units will also be formed.
    The military hardware is in addition to 20 French Mirage fighters which Argentina bought from Spain in August 2013. The fighters, along with the new shopping list, will give the Argentina president the ability to strike Port Stanley in the Falklands with pin point accuracy.
    Sources with Rockhopper Exploration, a British firm, have confirmed reports that drilling may begin very soon. The Sea Lion field in the Falklands is believed to have an oil reserve of 390 million barrels.
    Kirchner’s administration has sent several hundred letters to Britain firms promising fines of up to $1.5 billion and 15-year-jail terms if drilling happens without Argentina’s consent. While the intimidation has no standing in international law, they are widely seen as examples of the efforts the president will expend in order to boost flagging domestic support.
    Admiral Lord West, commanded the HMS Ardent and was at the helm when it was sunk during the Falklands War. West said a major increase in expenditure by Argentina must be looked upon with concern. Britain will not have any aircraft carriers operational until 2020. The six-year window presents plenty of opportunity for Argentina to act.
    While many observers feel the military build up is in anticipation of another attack on the Falklands, others aren’t so sure. As unrest at home grows, Kirchner has announced that she stands in solidarity with the embattled Nicolas Maduro, President of riot torn Venezuela. In various pronouncements, Kirchner has already declared that she will do whatever is necessary to keep the violence from coming to Argentina.
    Military Presence to be Used Against Argentines?
    In Buenos Aires lately, another theory is shaping up in the coffee houses. The military buildup is to be used to keep the Argentines in line as the violence in Venezuela continues to threaten expansion.
    David Gambarin, 90, still puts on a suit and goes to his office in downtown Buenos Aires. A real-estate broker, Gambarin says that the country has always had instability. “This is how we Argentines are,” he says.
    A little over a decade after the last crash in 2001, Argentina is on the edge of melting down again. The peso fell in value by 23 percent in January and economists are saying that inflation and recession will follow. Kirchner is restricting access to dollars and is threatening shopkeepers with foreclosure.
    Like most people here, Gambarin is resigned about the tumult. An immigrant from Russia, Gambarin was a boy when he got to Argentina and has lived through five coups. Gambarin remembers that in the 1980s, inflation rates rose so quickly that shoppers literally ran to the checkout lines to pay for their purchase before the items were marked up again.
    Economists classify Argentina as an “emerging market,” but the country’s economy has been on the slide for 100 years. In 1910, Argentina was among the world’s 10 wealthiest countries, today its per capita income is not even half that of the US.
    While people discuss the reason behind the military buildup, there is not any debate about the cause of Argentina’s problems. “Bad government,” says economist Marina Dal Poggetto. For decades, Argentina’s leaders have spent wildly during the good years and forgot to save for the bad ones. To keep the good times rolling, the government has borrowed heavily or just turned to the printing press to turn out more money.
    The wall behind Dal Poggeto’s desk is filled with picture frames containing rows of Argentine currencies which have been used and discarded in faulty economic plans. Argentina has lopped off 13 zeroes from its bank notes since 1969. In 1991, the 10,000 austral note was replaced by the one peso note which was worth $1 (USD). Today, that same one peso note is worth 9 cents.
    For the poorest of Argentines, crises mean calamity. With no access to American dollars, the poor watch as inflation eliminates the purchasing power of their salaries putting them in a position where they cannot buy food. Mobs in the thousands looted supermarkets throughout Argentina in the crises of 1989 and 2001.
    Economists say that in the best case, inflation in Argentina will head to 35 percent to 40 percent and the economy will stagnate. The worst case scenario is too difficult for them to put into words.
    Whether the buildup in Argentina is in anticipation of new drilling in the Falklands or preparation for violent protests, a look at Argentine history reveals something unsettling. South America’s second largest country is destined to experience a meltdown about once per decade. There isn’t much anyone can do about it.
    Gambarin says he already knows what will happen. “Nothing. Nothing will happen,” he said. “We are used to this. Every few years things get wiped out. Someone else will come along promising to fix Argentina. But everything will remain the same.”

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  • Skell18
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    • May 2012
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    #2
    Same old same old, she should sort her own county out first, all this idiocy is just trying to detrack attention from the real issues they won't face.

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    • squeezyjohn
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      • Jan 2008
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      #3
      I wonder why we cling to ownership of a couple of small barren islands thousands of miles from our country when we're seriously considering casting Scotland adrift in the upcoming referendum to split the UK. As a set of islands it's only good for raising a few sheep! Whereas Scotland has BAGPIPES!

      Argentina has it's own problems and should probably sort those out too before it gets too worked up about the Falklands.

      Of course I know why it's important ... a strategic point in a last gasp war for Antarctica in the frenzy to burn every last drop of oil on the planet before we all accept the inevitable. But I'm not comfortable for lots of military expenditure to come from my taxes in order to save something like this bleak place populated only by jingoistic bigots with Norfolk accents for that.
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      • Frosted
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        • Mar 2010
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        #4
        The answer Squeezy is democracy. Nobody wanted the Falklands apart from a few British settlers. They've been there for a long time, they didn't kick anybody out to settle there and they've voted to stay with the UK. Now there's talk of oil Argentina want it. Scotland will have their say.
        If there's any war worth fighting it's this one...not Iraq or Afghanistan. The Falklands are our business.

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        • Frosted
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          • Mar 2010
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          #5
          ...but unfortunately we don't have the military capability to fight a long distance land war from the sea.
          It was won by the skin of our teeth the last time. Whatever government that is in power will fall if they lose that war.
          Last edited by Frosted; 25-02-14, 12:21 AM.

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          • squeezyjohn
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            • Jan 2008
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            #6
            I know all the reasons Frosted ... but why pursue this to the extent that there will likely make more casualties of young men than the entire number of said settlers if it's only to ensure a short-term fix in oil supply that WILL run out anyway. I know it's a big question - and I'm not being a hippie about this one ... just pragmatic.

            I'm not alone in being cynical enough to think that one of the reasons the Falklands are being held on to so closely is that it's a tool in the arsenal of whichever government is in charge to wield yet more power over the population by maintaining a threat to "national" territories which they can exploit at their leisure ... generally when they think they're likely to lose the next election.
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            • whalen
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              • May 2009
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              #7
              Small distant island overrun by sheep with tight arseholes! Don't over think it........
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              • Frosted
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                • Mar 2010
                • 5798

                #8
                Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                I know all the reasons Frosted ... but why pursue this to the extent that there will likely make more casualties of young men than the entire number of said settlers
                Be in no doubt that the reason people join the British Army is because they want to kill people. Every person that joins knows that the Falklands is always a very possible theatre and would drool at the chance of a fight...especially for British territory.

                Again, the British government cannot be seen to be balking at defending a territory of British democracy especially after the labour government went readily prancing around into wars that were illegal and had nothing to do with us.
                The Falklands are the poisoned chalice of any government. You lose you're gone. You don't fight you're gone.
                Last edited by Frosted; 25-02-14, 02:32 AM.

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                • wa3zrm
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                  • May 2009
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by whalen View Post
                  Small distant island overrun by sheep with tight arseholes! Don't over think it........
                  Is this why PP has signed up for the British navy?
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                  • Thunder_Snus
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                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1316

                    #10
                    Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                    I wonder why we cling to ownership of a couple of small barren islands thousands of miles from our country when we're seriously considering casting Scotland adrift in the upcoming referendum to split the UK. As a set of islands it's only good for raising a few sheep! Whereas Scotland has BAGPIPES!

                    Argentina has it's own problems and should probably sort those out too before it gets too worked up about the Falklands.

                    Of course I know why it's important ... a strategic point in a last gasp war for Antarctica in the frenzy to burn every last drop of oil on the planet before we all accept the inevitable. But I'm not comfortable for lots of military expenditure to come from my taxes in order to save something like this bleak place populated only by jingoistic bigots with Norfolk accents for that.


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                    • Snusdog
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                      • Jun 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                      The answer Squeezy is democracy. Nobody wanted the Falklands apart from a few British settlers. They've been there for a long time, they didn't kick anybody out to settle there and they've voted to stay with the UK. Now there's talk of oil Argentina want it. Scotland will have their say.
                      If there's any war worth fighting it's this one...not Iraq or Afghanistan. The Falklands are our business.
                      That's not the reason at all.............it all comes down to what the British people are willing to fight for..........so defend the Falklands and you get....rack of lamb.....maybe with an Umpagway sauce and a nice red wine.....fight to retain Scotland and you get a damn bagpipe concert

                      In fact, do you know why bagpipes lead the Scottish army into battle........it is simply a force of habit........cause every time a Scot started playing those damn things..........somebody shots at them.....just to shut the *&$%@! noise up



                      In all seriousness....Argentina vs Canada.........now that would be worth watching....picture both Navies paddling into position.... as each gets their gun ready....and then 14 soldiers storm the beach....and then during halftime U2 could sing a protest song about senseless violence.....except......no none on either side was actually good enough to inflict real casualties with their muskets and glossy tourist brochures.
                      When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                      • Snusdog
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6752

                        #12
                        Let me add this.....If tomorrow the British people had in mind to end the matter with Argentina once and for all......it would be done by tea the following day......the problem is that the US and Britain no longer fight wars to win....they fight today so they can be nice to the same people tomorrow

                        Resuscitate Henry....and give him a week.....then tell me if there is still an issue
                        When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                        • Snusdog
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                          • Jun 2008
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                          #13
                          That last post is wrong on so many levels........but it just felt good to vent it......I'm better now
                          When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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                          • scottishsnusser
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                            • Apr 2011
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                            #14
                            In fact, do you know why bagpipes lead the Scottish army into battle........it is simply a force of habit........cause every time a Scot started playing those damn things..........somebody shots at them.....just to shut the *&$%@! noise up
                            I happen to like bagpipes. :dejection:

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                            • Crow
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                              • Oct 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by scottishsnusser View Post
                              I happen to like bagpipes. :dejection:
                              Ah, here we are.

                              What's your take on all of this? Scottish independence... Yay or Nei?

                              To me, it's a vote on whom the oil belongs to............. The Scots? Or, the Brits?

                              Bear in mind, the Nordic Council's major players have agreed to welcome Scotland with open arms (should the need arise).
                              Last edited by Crow; 25-02-14, 12:39 PM.
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