420 Use and Health

[precious007]

I am sorry to hear about your mom and hope that there's something to keep hold of the cancer from spreading....

I am stressing genetics a bit because I happen to inherit sinusitis and spondilosis from my mom and have been going through depression which is what my dad had for quit a long period of his life..... and I had severe depression for 3 years..........

[sgreger1]

This might be a bit of topic..

Sgreger do you feel psychologically addicted to cannabis ? Do you crave smoking cannabis?

I know it's not addictive as a substance but I know people that are literally devasted and their life is a mess due to smoking legal buds.......... there was a story a few weeks ago in Romania where thi 17 year old kid asked his mom to tie him up in chains in the house to stop him from going to the herbal shop and smoking legal buds all day long.... so there is some kind of connection and strong psychological addicition................ after all

**** what happened in romania, let's talk science. What we know from the national cancer institute is that:

Cannabinoids

Cannabinoids have a favorable drug safety profile.[1-4] Unlike opioid receptors, cannabinoid receptors are not located in the brainstem areas controlling respiration; therefore, lethal overdoses due to respiratory suppression do not occur. Because cannabinoid receptors are present in tissues throughout the body, not just in the central nervous system, adverse effects include tachycardia, hypotension, conjunctival injection, bronchodilation, muscle relaxation, and decreased gastrointestinal motility.

Although cannabinoids are considered by some to be addictive drugs, their addictive potential is considerably lower than that of other prescribed agents or substances of abuse.[4] The brain develops a tolerance to cannabinoids.

Withdrawal symptoms, such as irritability, insomnia with sleep electroencephalogram disturbance, restlessness, hot flashes, and rarely, nausea and cramping have been observed, but these symptoms appear to be mild compared with withdrawal symptoms associated with opiates or benzodiazepines, and the symptoms usually dissipate after a few days.

Unlike other commonly used drugs, cannabinoids are stored in adipose tissue and excreted at a low rate (half-life 1–3 days), so even abrupt cessation of cannabinoid intake is not associated with rapid declines in plasma concentrations that would precipitate severe or abrupt withdrawal symptoms or drug cravings.

^^^ The only withdrawal is the same as with cofee, which is almost completely not noticeable to the observer.



Please educate yourself, any "adverse side effects" are on par with drinking tea. No I am not addicted to cannabis, I have smoked, then stoped for a few years, thens tarted again several times. Each time it took 0 effort to stop. I enjoy it so I eventually come back, but only when money and my situation in general permits. I have never experienced any kind of withdrawl or dependence, but I have heard of those who really find it difficult to "get by" without it because they have other issue that they need to handle. Lots of people smoke MJ to cover up other issues, if you are smoking MJ to cover something up, than as soon as you stop it will come back and that is why people may find it addictive. This has nothing to do with the drug though and everything to do with the user.



Listen, I don't know how it is in romania, but in Calif smoking MJ is like buying coffee, no one is "asking their mother to tie them up to prevent them from buying drugs", that is some stupid propaganda bullshit. Legal buds are A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRUG and in no way have anything to do, at all, whatsoever, with marijuana.

[sgreger1]

I am sorry to hear about your mom and hope that there's something to keep hold of the cancer from spreading....

I am stressing genetics a bit because I happen to inherit sinusitis and spondilosis from my mom and have been going through depression which is what my dad had for quit a long period of his life..... and I had severe depression for 3 years..........

Thanks man, it is a real bummer to hear that my mom had it, but it is treatable right now so she has a while luckily. I know it is genetic, but the cause is still unclear. Something causes it and then once someone has it, it gets passed on through their genetics. I still don't know why we don't know more about cancer and how it works or why it does what it does, but hopefully we will find out. Clearly it is genetic so hopefully it gets me and skips over my daughter.

[charmando]

Sgreger I believe Precious was referring to synthetic marijuana also known as legal bud. I've heard some bad stories about that stuff but thats just more reason to smoke the real herbal goodness.

[precious007]

Sgreger I believe Precious was referring to synthetic marijuana also known as legal bud. I've heard some bad stories about that stuff but thats just more reason to smoke the real herbal goodness.

I don;t know what names they have in US ... if the "legal buds" are LEGAL there.....

Here they come in all sort of names and forms (either weed or bath salt for inhalation) .....

GANJA W, GANJA H, GEANIE, CRANK ... and sseveral other **** them....... My whole body was burning like in hell once from smoking a CRANK cigarette................ and that;s when I stopped smoking legal buds............ Let me just tell your some of the symptoms I am aware of what cannabis does...... but these are ****ing different......

When I smoke legal buds I am totally paranoic (not scarred or anything I do control myself) but I am paranoic..... like standing in a room with 20 guys and having the feeling that I don't know them....... or even I ask myself .....who the **** am I ? looooll

you're completely lost on that stuff..... (they say it's SALVIA ... who the hell knows if it's salvia) ?!

the funny thing with these legal buds is that they have killed hundreds of underages kids in Romania and grown ups.. but no one is making them illegal.... the laws are pretty unclear.................

all the products come packaged (and they say on the package that it's either bath salt or aromatic incense for cars) still people smoke and inhale this stuff

[charmando]

So who forced cancer institute to retract their claims. F**king criminals.

[precious007]

So who forced cancer institute to retract their claims. F**king criminals.

some mother ****ers .... who else could , lol

[Snusdog]

Maybe we can keep all the 'pot talk' in one thread?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]997[/ATTACH] The Cannabis Thread

P.S., I just noticed this thread is in the "Snus & Snus Accessories" section. It should be in the "People & World Around Us" section.

Great idea!!

I will merge the content here with the Cannabis thread and we will keep the discussion in one place.

Guys lets resume this conversation here
http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...annabis-Thread

[Crow]

precious007 is most likely referring to herbal smoke blends.

If you are, then you must know that the herbal smoke blends ARE NOT CANNABIS.

What is it? Its just ordinary herbs that have been sprayed with a JWH-018 solution.

JWH-018 DOES NOT EQUAL CANNABIS. ITS PURELY SYNTHETIC AND IS CONSIDERED A 'RESEARCH CHEMICAL'.

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I posted a before/after from the study that sgreger is talking about:




Also, I think snusdog wants everyone to post their cannabis talk in The Cannabis Thread.

[Crow]

The Cannabis Thread

[Crow]

Dem Rep. Jared Polis Calls on Congress to End Marijuana Prohibition

Speaking alongside industry advocates, U.S. Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO) called Wednesday for Congress to end the prohibition on marijuana, stressing the need to reduce drug violence while hailing the medical cannabis market's capacity for growing the economy.

"Ending the failed policy of prohibition with regard to marijuana will strike a major blow against the criminal cartels that are terrorizing Americans and Mexicans on both sides of the border," Polis said at the National Press Club, in response to a question from Raw Story.

"It's been estimated that the drug cartels drive about half of their revenue from marijuana, so I think it would reduce the violence by half, and reduce the money that fuels the criminal enterprises by half."

"We've seen the benefits across the board, as a job creation engine in Colorado, as sorely needed contributions to our revenue on the state level," he said. "It'll reach its next level though Congressional action, that really allows the industry to be treated like any other -- whether it's access banking services, whether it's capital structures from investors from multiple states, whether it's finally be able to sleep quietly without the risk of federal enforcement action."

The second-term Colorado Democrat predicted that national legislation was on the horizon, but said states must lead the charge. "It's a critical and important time for advocacy at the national stage," he said. "The more states create a regulatory structure around marijuana production and sales, the more pressure there will be on Congress nationally."

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/co...na-Prohibition

[sgreger1]

Wait, don't we already have a cannabis thread?

[Crow]

snusdog accidentally merged the thread into the documentary dvd and locked it.

This is the new Cannabis Thread.

[nicodude]

Keep an eye on that little guy, they will get top heavy, fall over and die. Putting the seed a little deeper helps some what, but sometimes you just gotta prop it up with a toothpick or something until the stem gets hard enough to support the top. Also, if the light is coming in from one side instead of the top, remember to rotate the the pot to keep the plant from leaning towards the light...

[GoVegan]

danielan - I am sure that you know by now that meth and pot are very different drugs. I do find it comical though that people somehow believe marijuana is a cure all. There are doctors here that will write you a medical marijuana prescription for everything from athletes foot to hunger pains as long as you have their $150.00 fee. At this point, I am convinced that the government should legalize marijuana and then tax the crap out of it. They should also make it illegal to grow your own plants unless it has been taxed. Then they should take a large chunk of that revenue and use it to fund drug rehabs and establish a fund to help reimburse people that have been hurt by people using marijuana.