420 Policies and Laws

[Joe234]

F**ck Joe Biden!-Joe Biden disagrees with Pat Robertson on Pot

**** Joe Biden!

My gut reaction is **** Obama too!

Pat Robertson might want to legalize marijuana but as for the vice president -- he said it’s a bad idea.

“I still believe it’s a gateway drug. I’ve spent a lot of my life as chairman of the Judiciary Committee dealing with this. I think it would be a mistake to legalize,” Biden said on Good Morning America today. “The punishment should fit the crime. But I think legalization is a mistake.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/24/jo...#ixzz192nQA5Sk

http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/24/jo...ertson-on-pot/

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010...a-mistake.html

[bipolarbear1968]

Who wudda thunk?

Biden is dumb as a post anyway....

[raptor]

Got nothing to do with him being dumb, but rather playing along with partisan divisions, no matter how asinine.

Cannabis isn't a gateway drug, period.

[Crow]

Cannabis isn't a gateway drug, period.

[Joe234]

Got nothing to do with him being dumb, but rather playing along with partisan divisions, no matter how asinine.

Cannabis isn't a gateway drug, period.

That's the part that pissed me off.

Cannabis can be an Exit drug. Some people use it as a form or "harm reduction"
to get off hard drugs and alcohol.

[sgreger1]

That's the part that pissed me off.

Cannabis can be an Exit drug. Some people use it as a form or "harm reduction"
to get off hard drugs and alcohol.

Absolutely true Joe. Marijuana is like Snus, it is an agent of harm reduction. Studies have shown it's not a gateway drug and that it can help rehabilitate from worse addictions.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I agree with the first two words of the thread title

[lxskllr]

RoFL!

[Crow]

Washington State SB 5073 (Expansion of medical cannabis)

Washington: Senate Bill 5073 and House Bill 1100 seek to provide state licensing to medical marijuana producers and dispensaries in order to assure that qualified patients “will have access to an adequate, safe, consistent, and secure source of medical quality cannabis.”

SB 5073 - 2011-12

I've read the bill, and these are my interpretations of the Senate bill from the first reading:

All references to "marijuana" (medical or otherwise) will be changed to "cannabis" from the bill's proposed amendments and additions.

If you're a patient from another state (e.g. California, Colorado, etc.), the bill will allow you to have an 'affirmative defense' to the purchase, possession, and use of medical cannabis provided that you don't go over the state limits (24 ounces [1.5 lbs/0.68 kg] and 15 plants), which should be more than plenty since the state of Washington allows you to have more medical cannabis than any state in the Union. To apply for the affirmative defense, you need to have your state-approved medical cannabis ID, recommendation, or prescription on your person.

Dispensaries will be legalised (and owners will need to pay a "Business and Occupation" tax to operate). There are already dispensaries (incl. delivery) in Washington. They're advertised in the local media, newspapers, and Washington's resource site for medical cannabis, thclist.

Medical cannabis users will be exempt from any sales tax.

Increased protection for medical cannabis users. The bill would change the law so that you are protected from arrest or search & seizure. New additions will protect you from your parental rights being restricted solely due to your use of medical cannabis.

"A medical cannabis user may not be refused employment, discharged from employment, or discriminated against in compensation or in other terms & conditions of employment solely as a result of your off-site medical use of cannabis" (unless you work for a Federal contractor)

"A medical cannabis user may not be refused or evicted from housing solely as a result of his or her possession or use of usable cannabis or cannabis products."

"No person shall be prosecuted for constructive possession, conspiracy, or any other criminal offense solely for being in the presence or vicinity of cannabis intended for medical use".

The bill would remove the misdemeanor for displaying and using medical cannabis in public, and treat it as an infraction (dispensaries are exempt from this part of the law since they are operating legitimately and paying their business tax to the Department of Revenue). For the medical cannabis user, as long as you don't open the package or "consume cannabis in a public place in a manner that presents a reasonably foreseeable risk that another person would see and be able to identify the substance contained in the package or being consumed as cannabis". In other words, don't make your public use blatantly obvious.

The state will allow medical cannabis 'producers'. Producers are considered commercial entities that sell to licenced dispensaries. Producers will be licenced and regulated by the Department of Agriculture.

The University of Washington may conduct scientific research on the efficacy and safety of administering cannabis as part of medical treatment."

"The state of Washington fully occupies and preempts the entire field of authorizing and regulating the production, processing, dispensing, possession, and use of cannabis for medical purposes.

Local laws, ordinances, regulations, and rules that are inconsistent with the requirements of state law and regulations adopted pursuant to this chapter may not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of the city, town, county, or municipality." ... State law would trump city/county/municipality when it comes to 'restricting' the use of medical cannabis

Individual and collective gardens for medical cannabis users will be allowed. Up to 99 plants and 96 oz. [6 lbs, or a little over 2.7 kg] will be allowed (make sure to have a copy of your recommendations posted at the garden). Also, the definition of "plants" have been clarified to exclude cuttings.

The bill is scheduled for public hearing in the Senate Committee on Health & Long-Term Care on January 20.

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... or to put it simply: a good step towards sensible, cannabis reform.

[sgreger1]

Seems legit...

[Jwalker]

24 ounces should be enough I'd say. That's costs like what 7k (I think the street value is 300 an ounce for good quality don't know from experience.) Plus I think that's at one time not for a whole year so if your like the people on snuson and decide hey in case the government says you can't mail marijuana without paying tax I should order don't get more than 7,000 dollars worth.

[sgreger1]

That much marijuana is entirely unnecessary anyways. At least for person consumption. The shit would dry out before you could finish it.

[sgreger1]

Speaking of which, does anyone have any experience with the lolite personal vaporizer? Its like the size of an iphone, about $200, and ha gotten like 5 star reviews from everywhere. I've yet to see a negative comment. Have any of you ever used this or a similar product before?

[Crow]

Plus I think that's at one time not for a whole year

Right. You're currently allowed to possess up to 24 ounces [a little over 680 grams] of cannabis at once (it's not time-restricted). You're ALSO allowed to possess up to 15 plants.

If the Senate bill passes (and the same bill is also making the rounds in the House of Representatives), and you're part of a collective garden, then you may possess up to 96 ounces (6 pounds or a little over 2.72 kilos) AND up to 99 plants at the garden.

That much marijuana is entirely unnecessary anyways. At least for person consumption. The shit would dry out before you could finish it.

There's always vacuum seal. Have a little bit of all the different strains ready to go (just like your snus stash).

[sgreger1]

Right. You're currently allowed to possess up to 24 ounces [a little over 680 grams] of cannabis at once (it's not time-restricted). You're ALSO allowed to possess up to 15 plants.

If the Senate bill passes (and the same bill is also making the rounds in the House of Representatives), and you're part of a collective garden, then you may possess up to 96 ounces (6 pounds or a little over 2.72 kilos) AND up to 99 plants at the garden.



There's always vacuum seal. Have a little bit of all the different strains ready to go (just like your snus stash).

That's very true. We used to have a friend who had the sweet vacuum sealer to seal his ounces in. Damn rich kids.


Here in CA, the law is almost identical to the law over there. You can actually have more than 99 plants, it's just that the feds put you on their list as soon as you are a grower of 100 or more plants. They usually won't go after people with less, so the interim maximum is 99 sincec that's when they start busting you. Though a good lawyer could get you out of it.