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  • crullers
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    • Oct 2011
    • 663

    I would be very concerned about the taxation of marijuana being controlled by your federal government. What a perfect opportunity for them to impose outrageous sin taxes. If you are in Washington do the feds have jurisdiction to bust you for cultivation even though its been legalized? If so the vote for legalization was a sham. Sanctioning by the federal government may seem like a step in the right direction as far as gaining acceptance but I bet your dime bag will go up by some 500%.

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    • Thunder_Snus
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      • Oct 2011
      • 1316

      Originally posted by crullers
      I would be very concerned about the taxation of marijuana being controlled by your federal government. What a perfect opportunity for them to impose outrageous sin taxes. If you are in Washington do the feds have jurisdiction to bust you for cultivation even though its been legalized? If so the vote for legalization was a sham. Sanctioning by the federal government may seem like a step in the right direction as far as gaining acceptance but I bet your dime bag will go up by some 500%.
      According to the federal government these states do not have the authority to legalize. According to the states they do so some dispensaries are raided but its a tricky situation. We do not have sin taxes here im sure a tax on weed will be about like taxes on tobacco ever increasing in the states like new york and california and pretty much non existant in some southern states much like tobacco. It also leads a lot of dealers with no income and forced to find work or turn to a life of actual crime. I see Marlboro and camel giving you a nice 20 pack of nicely rolled joints. Might be something i dabble in while on a nice vacation from work if it even becomes legal here. But with that being said about taxes its far better than Canada. I think Canada has the little half cans of dip for like 3 times the price of a full can we have here. The cans they get in Canada are like the little half ones they hand out at redneck festivals here.

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      • crullers
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        • Oct 2011
        • 663

        Originally posted by Thunder_Snus
        According to the federal government these states do not have the authority to legalize. According to the states they do so some dispensaries are raided but its a tricky situation.
        So the vote to legalize in Washington, Colorado did not result in legalization?

        We do not have sin taxes here im sure a tax on weed will be about like taxes on tobacco ever increasing in the states like new york and california and pretty much non existant in some southern states much like tobacco. It also leads a lot of dealers with no income and forced to find work or turn to a life of actual crime.
        Taxes applied to items such as alcohol and tobacco are considered "sin taxes" and are at the whim of federal and regional governments (state, province, county, etc.). So you do in fact have sin taxes albeit lower than in other societies. The rationale behind sin taxes is that the revenues generated go into the pool to treat those that have encountered health problems related to the use of these *legal* items. Your sin taxes are lower in the states because you have to pay insurance companies or the health care provider (if you have no insurance) to fix you for your ill health rather than the government through taxes. So you might want to put aside a few bucks every time you have a smoke or a drink.

        I see Marlboro and camel giving you a nice 20 pack of nicely rolled joints. Might be something i dabble in while on a nice vacation from work if it even becomes legal here.
        Why wait for it to become legal? Oh yeah, you'll be thrown in a federal penitentiary for smoking a joint.

        But with that being said about taxes its far better than Canada. I think Canada has the little half cans of dip for like 3 times the price of a full can we have here. The cans they get in Canada are like the little half ones they hand out at redneck festivals here.
        Nope, we get the same size cans here it just costs more. $15.75 at my local variety store. $10-$11 at the native reservation. Not sure where you got that information from.

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        • Crow
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          • Oct 2010
          • 4312

          Originally posted by crullers
          So the vote to legalize in Washington, Colorado did not result in legalization?
          Good question, but it's a little difficult to explain (especially to a foreigner)..... The short answer is: Yes, the vote resulted in legalisation in the states of Washington and Colorado. However, there is more work to be done (at the Federal level).

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          Here is a routine traffic stop, post-legalisation... As you can see, law enforcement has reformed in light of the new law (which took effect last month on 6. December)



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          • GoVegan
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            • Oct 2009
            • 5603

            Watch, now that the feds are involved you will be able to ship marijuana but only by UPS. It will cost $35 to ship a small package and you will need to be at home around 2:00 pm on a weekday to sign for it.

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            • crullers
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              • Oct 2011
              • 663

              Originally posted by Crow
              Good question, but it's a little difficult to explain (especially to a foreigner)..... The short answer is: Yes, the vote resulted in legalisation in the states of Washington and Colorado. However, there is more work to be done (at the Federal level).

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              Here is a routine traffic stop, post-legalisation... As you can see, law enforcement has reformed in light of the new law (which took effect last month on 6. December)



              That just made my morning lol.

              I stand by my original post that it will most likely be taxed excessively. 1) Because it can generate tons of revenue. 2) To appease the jurisdictions that are morally opposed to it (to some degree). It could very possibly be priced out of the reach of many users, in which case the black market won't go away, but at least the silly prison sentences for possession will stop.

              I do find it a bit confusing, I guess I should have followed the other threads more closely.

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              • Crow
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                • Oct 2010
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                Here is how the revenue is going to be divided out (at the state level)...

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                • Crow
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 4312

                  Time for a long needed update...

                  Legislatures in other states have been taking a cue from my state, and I am certainly proud of that. I wish Maryland (Maine, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont) the best of luck in pursuing sensible cannabis reform. If you live in any of these states, now is the time to act.

                  Bill to Legalize Marijuana Introduced in Maryland

                  Hot on the heels of the introduction of a bill to tax and regulate marijuana in Maine earlier today, Delegate Curt Anderson (D-Baltimore) has filed legislation in Maryland that would end his state’s prohibition on marijuana and regulate its possession, use, and sale for adults over the age of 21.

                  House Bill 1453 would create a system to regulate and tax cannabis in a manner similar to how the state handles alcohol. It would instruct the Maryland comptroller to license marijuana retail stores, wholesale facilities and testing facilities and apply an excise tax of $50 per ounce on wholesale sales. The excise tax revenue would go to fund treatment programs to prevent alcohol, tobacco and drug abuse. You can read the full text of this proposal here.

                  If you live in Maryland, please take a moment and use NORML’s Take Action Center here to easily contact your Representative and urge him or her to support this important legislation.

                  MARYLAND: Click here to urge your elected officials to support this legislation

                  The winds of reform are blowing strongly at our backs, with Maryland entering the fray, there are currently a total of six states (Maine, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont) with pending legislation to legalize marijuana for adult consumption. Check out the full list of pending state legislation here and find out if your state is considering marijuana law reforms in this legislative session.

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                  • Crow
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                    • Oct 2010
                    • 4312

                    LEGALISE NOW OREGON!

                    Marijuana Legalization Measure Introduced in Oregon

                    Legislation has been introduced in Oregon by the House Committee on Revenue that would legalize and regulate the adult use of marijuana.

                    House Bill 3371 would establish a regulatory system, similar to the one in place in the state for alcohol, for the cultivation, production, and sale of cannabis to adults over 21. Adults would be allowed to possess up to 24 ounces of usable marijuana and grow up to six plants in their homes, in addition to purchasing it from regulated retail outlets. You can read the full text of the legislation here.

                    If you needed any further proof that elections have consequences, we now have a total of seven legalization bills pending in state legislatures, whereas we rarely had even one in previous years. The voters in Colorado and Washington set the ball of legalization rolling down hill and it seems unlikely to slow down anytime soon.

                    If you live in Oregon, please click here to quickly and easily contact your elected officials in support of this legislation. If you don’t live in Oregon, click here and see if there is any pending marijuana law reform legislation in your state.

                    OREGON: CLICK HERE TO CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IN SUPPORT OF HOUSE BILL 3371

                    In November 2012, two states legalized marijuana. Help us win the rest. Consider making a donation to support NORML’s advocacy work today.
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                    • Burnsey
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 2572

                      Too funny to not share.......... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-seized-mexico

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                      • tattooer601
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 942

                        To bad
                        Mississippi ...I'm afraid will never legalize.
                        I'm a chronic pain sufferer ....
                        To bad my thumbs aren't green enough.
                        However I am studing several books, in hopes to get greenr thumbs..;-)

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                        • BadAxe
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 631

                          Originally posted by tattooer601
                          To bad
                          Mississippi ...I'm afraid will never legalize.
                          I'm a chronic pain sufferer ....
                          To bad my thumbs aren't green enough.
                          However I am studing several books, in hopes to get greenr thumbs..;-)
                          I think one of 2 things is going to happen with MJ on a federal level. They will either 1. Decide that they never ever want it to be legal, and go and create some horrible event that is linked soley to MJ to reestablish a country wide negative view on MJ, and thus keep it federally illegal, then start to go after the states where it is legal, or 2. (and probably more likely), It will happen as it did with alcohol during the prohibition, where after a handful of states make it legal, they relent, and it becomes federally legal everywhere. I believe it would become federally legal well before it is made legal in all 50 states.

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                          • OregonNative
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 647

                            Originally posted by BadAxe
                            I think one of 2 things is going to happen with MJ on a federal level. They will either 1. Decide that they never ever want it to be legal, and go and create some horrible event that is linked soley to MJ to reestablish a country wide negative view on MJ, and thus keep it federally illegal, then start to go after the states where it is legal, or 2. (and probably more likely), It will happen as it did with alcohol during the prohibition, where after a handful of states make it legal, they relent, and it becomes federally legal everywhere. I believe it would become federally legal well before it is made legal in all 50 states.
                            I see it eventually becoming legal, this of course is my hope. It's still way to early to tell which direction marijuana legislation will head.

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                            • Crow
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                              • Oct 2010
                              • 4312

                              Rhode Island: Marijuana Decriminalization Law Takes Effect Monday

                              Legislation signed into law last year decriminalizing minor marijuana possession offenses takes effect on Monday, April 1.

                              Presently, possessing cannabis in the Ocean State is classified as a criminal misdemeanor punishable by one year in jail and a $500 maximum fine. Starting Monday, the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana by an individual 18 years or older is a non-arrestable civil offense, punishable by a maximum fine of $150 but no jail time, and no criminal record.

                              Fifteen states have enacted similar decriminalization laws. Three states — Alaska, Colorado, and Washington — impose no criminal or civil penalty for the private possession of small amounts of marijuana. (Colorado had previously decriminalized cannabis possession decades earlier, while Alaska’s legal protections were imposed by the state Supreme Court.)

                              Similar decriminalization legislation is pending this year in nearly a dozen additional states, including Hawaii, Maryland, Missouri, New Jersey, Texas, and Vermont.

                              Lawmakers in several other states, including Maine, Oregon, and Pennsylvania, are considering separate legislation to legalize the adult consumption of cannabis and regulate its retail production and sale.
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                              • Crow
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 4312

                                BREAKING NEWS: Canada legalises marijuana

                                ............is what I wish I could report to you all............

                                Happy April Fools Day, dummy!
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