US states may go back to electric chair and firing squads

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  • wa3zrm
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    • May 2009
    • 4436

    US states may go back to electric chair and firing squads

    US states may revert to killing their death row inmates with electric chairs, firing squads and gas chambers as it becomes increasingly difficult to source chemicals for lethal injections.
    The EU has banned the export of one of the most common sedatives used in lethal injections, forcing US states to experiment with new "cocktails" of drugs for executions.
    One such experimental recipe was used in the botched execution of an Oklahoma prisoner on Tuesday, leaving him to writhe in pain and die of a massive heart attack 43 minutes after being injected.
    The shortage of execution drugs, coupled with fears the courts may intervene to ban experimental methods of lethal injection, have prompted states to look at alternative ways to kill prisoners.
    Tennessee's legislature has passed a bill that would reintroduce the electric chair if the state was unable to find drugs for lethal injections.
    The state's Republican governor is still weighing whether to sign it into law.
    Missouri is considering a proposal to reintroduce both firing squads and gas chambers if it becomes impossible to carry out a lethal injection.
    Richard Dieter, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Centre, said the laws were intended as symbols by conservative politicians of their commitment to the death penalty.
    "It's about being even more blatant than the anti-death penalty side. To see this as a rational process is to miss the harshly divisive political atmosphere that produces these things," he said.

    (Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...

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  • Frosted
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    • Mar 2010
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    #2
    Hey - I read the news about that guy and thought "shiiiiit, poor fella....that's terrible no matter what he did." Then I found out what he did and went "f*ck him". He should've died stripping his skin one layer at a time like an onion until he was screaming for mercy - and then keep going.

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    • Andy105
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      • Nov 2013
      • 1393

      #3
      Originally posted by Frosted View Post
      Hey - I read the news about that guy and thought "shiiiiit, poor fella....that's terrible no matter what he did." Then I found out what he did and went "f*ck him". He should've died stripping his skin one layer at a time like an onion until he was screaming for mercy - and then keep going.
      Yeah, it's tough to find any pity for that bastard. An old-timey hanging works much better.

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      • Burnsey
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        • Jan 2013
        • 2572

        #4
        Originally posted by Andy105 View Post
        Yeah, it's tough to find any pity for that bastard. An old-timey hanging works much better.
        My sentiments as well....but as a society we can not sink to the level of the worst people....whatever happened to the gas chamber, I wonder...
        Last edited by Burnsey; 01-05-14, 10:25 PM. Reason: sp

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        • Frosted
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          • Mar 2010
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          #5
          Oh I'd skin him personally for what he did and take pleasure. I don't see it as sinking, just some, ....some, kind of retribution in this life for what he did to that poor child.

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          • Frosted
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            • Mar 2010
            • 5798

            #6
            ....baby.


            Damnit.

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            • Crow
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              • Oct 2010
              • 4312

              #7
              Not too surprising to see the southern states eager to return to the ways of old.

              While my state has capital punishment.. There is currently a moratorium in place (set by Governor Inslee).

              Here's hoping for permanence.
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              • lxskllr
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                • Sep 2007
                • 13435

                #8
                The particulars in this case are irrelevant. For every piece of shit that deserves to die a painful death, there's an innocent on death row put there by lying cops, scum sucking lawyers, and a brain dead jury. The only death penalty we need is at a situation in progress. It isn't the government's right, or business playing god as a third party.

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                • Frosted
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                  • Mar 2010
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                  #9
                  I do agree. No government can be certain that all people put to death are guilty. One innocent put to the death is one mistake too much. Cases where people have been sentenced to life imprisonment only to find out later through new evidence or forensic techniques that they are innocent proves that the death penalty is flawed. There's no pardon for a dead person, it's too late.
                  Put them in prison and throw away the key. It is the responsibility of the population to pay for imprisonment of these people.
                  Last edited by Frosted; 04-05-14, 12:43 AM.

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                  • Skell18
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                    • May 2012
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Crow View Post
                    Not too surprising to see the southern states eager to return to the ways of old.

                    While my state has capital punishment.. There is currently a moratorium in place (set by Governor Inslee).

                    Here's hoping for permanence.
                    Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                    The particulars in this case are irrelevant. For every piece of shit that deserves to die a painful death, there's an innocent on death row put there by lying cops, scum sucking lawyers, and a brain dead jury. The only death penalty we need is at a situation in progress. It isn't the government's right, or business playing god as a third party.
                    This and this.

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                    • Burnsey
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 2572

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                      The particulars in this case are irrelevant. For every piece of shit that deserves to die a painful death, there's an innocent on death row put there by lying cops, scum sucking lawyers, and a brain dead jury. The only death penalty we need is at a situation in progress. It isn't the government's right, or business playing god as a third party.
                      Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                      I do agree. No government can be certain that all people put to death are guilty. One innocent put to the death is one mistake too much. Cases where people have been sentenced to life imprisonment only to find out later through new evidence or forensic techniques that they are innocent proves that the death penalty is flawed. There's no pardon for a dead person, it's too late.
                      Put them in prison and throw away the key. It is the responsibility of the population to pay for imprisonment of these people.
                      This and this x 2.

                      Aside from the obvious ethical issues, there is a cost factor as mentioned....... so, Put them in prison and throw away the key.....makes sense.

                      http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphi...death-penalty/

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                      • wa3zrm
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                        • May 2009
                        • 4436

                        #12
                        ‘Botched’ Oklahoma Execution Proves It’s Time to Bring Back the Guillotine

                        Last night, Oklahoma was scheduled to execute two individuals. The second execution was to be of a man who raped and murdered an 11-month-old girl. That execution never took place because the first execution—that of a man who was involved in the murder and burial alive of a 19-year-old woman who walked in on a robbery—ran into some difficulties. The state was using a new lethal injection cocktail and, it seems, the poor murderer suffered a bit before expiring of a heart attack.
                        So how do we minimize suffering of the condemned? Our biggest problem as a society is that we have decided bloodlessness is a suitable stand-in for lack of suffering (and a way to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty). Well, the pursuit of a bloodless execution seems to have backfired pretty badly here. And there’s evidence that previous lethal injection cocktails weren’t much better. Allow me to propose a rather radical alternative: the guillotine.
                        the guillotine really seems to solve everyone’s problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably.

                        (Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...

                        Bring the Guillotine Back to Death Row

                        A quick, painless, gruesome way to carry out capital punishment
                        If I were governor of a state that executed prisoners I'd declare a moratorium for my entire tenure. I wish that the United States would stop imposing the death penalty. I nevertheless find myself nodding along to Sonny Bunch's case for reintroducing the guillotine, a response to the botched execution of a death-row inmate in Oklahoma.
                        He argues that America has made its executions bloodless to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty, with less humane killings as a result. (The electric chair. The gas chamber. Lethal injections. All have had horrific problems.)
                        Bunch writes:
                        "The guillotine really seems to solve everyone’s problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably. I understand the irony of a reactionary such as myself embracing the Terror’s preferred method of execution, but one must give credit where it’s due."
                        "If we’re going to do something—and a large number of Americans and American states are pretty committed to performing executions—we ought to do it right. And “right” in this case means a quick and painless death. I can’t really imagine any reasonable objections to a widespread adoption of the guillotine."
                        I can imagine one objection: that the guillotine is barbaric.
                        But to me, that's a point in its favor. Let's have no illusions about what we're doing when the state carries out the killing of captive prisoners. I imagine support for the death penalty would decline rather quickly once heads started rolling.

                        (Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...



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                        • hoarfrost
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                          • Apr 2014
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                          #13
                          If were to be executed I would want a firing squad, I'd also refuse the blindfold and want to face the guns.

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