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  • Andy105
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    • Nov 2013
    • 1393

    #16
    Originally posted by piks101 View Post
    If you are happy with your doctor then that is what is important. However, you won't really know unless you ask him.
    I will! My cholesterol is ok, anyway, and I doubt if he'd go nuts over a pat of butter in my coffee, but I'm pretty sure I'd rather just take it black, and eat something.

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    • piks101
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      • Sep 2010
      • 691

      #17
      Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
      I'm not sure dietary cholesterol translates to blood cholesterol. In any case, I do what I want, and I'll die when I die. Has to happen some time...
      Agree but it is been pretty ingrained that it does even with Doctors.

      When cholesterol intake in the diet goes up, the body makes less.This explains why well-designed cholesterol feeding studies (where they feed volunteers 2-4 eggs a day and measure their cholesterol) show that dietary cholesterol has very little impact on blood cholesterol levels in about 75% of the population. The remaining 25% of the population are referred to as “hyper-responders”. In this group, dietary cholesterol does modestly increase both LDL (“bad cholesterol” and HDL (“good cholesterol”), but it does not affect the ratio of LDL to HDL or increase the risk of heart disease.

      http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-hea...-not-the-enemy

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      • piks101
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        • Sep 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by Andy105 View Post
        I will! My cholesterol is ok, anyway, and I doubt if he'd go nuts over a pat of butter in my coffee, but I'm pretty sure I'd rather just take it black, and eat something.
        ...and that is fine. Just a suggestion for those that are interested in trying to see if it benefits them. I eat breakfast at times as well, steak, eggs, and hash browns being the preference. If not steak, bacon or sausage and some avocado is good with about every meal for me. The best thing I like about the coffee recipe is that most of my mornings I don't have the time to cook breakfast, so this is quick, healthy and filling.
        Last edited by piks101; 07-06-14, 11:47 PM.

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        • wa3zrm
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          • May 2009
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          #19
          Originally posted by piks101 View Post
          ...and that is fine. Just a suggestion for those that are interested in trying to see if it benefits them. I eat breakfast at times as well, steak, eggs, and hash browns being the preference. If not steak, bacon or sausage and some avocado is good with about every meal for me. The best thing I like about the coffee recipe is that most of my mornings I don't have the time to cook breakfast, so this is quick, healthy and filling.
          Arn't the hash browns loaded with carbs? How many carbs do you try to limit yourself to in a day?
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          • piks101
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            • Sep 2010
            • 691

            #20
            Originally posted by wa3zrm View Post
            Arn't the hash browns loaded with carbs? How many carbs do you try to limit yourself to in a day?
            I am more concerned about the source of carbs then the carbs. Approx 100mg carbs, as calories approx 600, primarily from starches (potatoes, white rice); around 300 protein calories; and fats supply a majority (50-60%) of daily calories.

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            • squeezyjohn
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              • Jan 2008
              • 2497

              #21
              I can't remember who it was - but a year or two ago there was someone on SnusOn telling us all how they were fighting fit and losing weight by having some kind of super-coffee made from grass-fed butter along with coffee (is there any other kind of butter? Cows eat grass right?)

              I thought it was a load of bollocks the first time I heard it - and having had a year or so to work this fad out I still do!

              Fresh fruit and porridge - that's a real healthy breakfast - not half a pound of butter in a caffeinated drink. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either stupid and gullible, or delusional with an eating disorder.
              Squeezyjohn

              Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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              • piks101
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                • Sep 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                I can't remember who it was - but a year or two ago there was someone on SnusOn telling us all how they were fighting fit and losing weight by having some kind of super-coffee made from grass-fed butter along with coffee (is there any other kind of butter? Cows eat grass right?)

                I thought it was a load of bollocks the first time I heard it - and having had a year or so to work this fad out I still do!

                Fresh fruit and porridge - that's a real healthy breakfast - not half a pound of butter in a caffeinated drink. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either stupid and gullible, or delusional with an eating disorder.
                In the states most cows are fed gmo grains. How did you work this fad out over the past year? This recipe is based on Tibetan practice known as po cha with origins from the 1oth century , so not really a fad.

                As for coffee:

                1. Coffee Can Improve Energy Levels and Make You Smarter
                2. Coffee Can Help You Burn Fat
                3. The Caffeine Can Drastically Improve Physical Performance
                4. There Are Essential Nutrients in Coffee
                5. Coffee May Lower Your Risk of Type II Diabetes
                6. Coffee May Protect You From Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia
                7. Caffeine May Lower The Risk of Parkinson’s
                8. Coffee Appears to Have Protective Effects on The Liver
                9. Coffee Can Fight Depression and Make You Happier
                10. Coffee Drinkers Have a Lower Risk of Some Types of Cancer
                11. Coffee Does Not Cause Heart Disease and May Lower The Risk of Stroke
                12. Coffee May Help You Live Longer
                13. Coffee is The Biggest Source of Antioxidants in The Western Diet
                Last edited by piks101; 08-06-14, 12:47 AM.

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                • squeezyjohn
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                  • Jan 2008
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                  #23
                  They had coffee in Tibet in the 10th Century??
                  Squeezyjohn

                  Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                  • squeezyjohn
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                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2497

                    #24
                    In the 10th Century people ate what they had available locally and seasonally with no thought on dietary merit and there was no media to spin stories about the latest miracle panacea to cure all modern worries. Coffee originated in East Africa and is first documented being drunk in the 14th century by the way.
                    Squeezyjohn

                    Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                    • piks101
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 691

                      #25
                      Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                      They had coffee in Tibet in the 10th Century??
                      No, a brick of tea leaves and yak butter. I said based on not following the exact recipe. Different times and resources. Black tea actually has more caffeine than coffee.
                      Last edited by piks101; 08-06-14, 12:56 AM.

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                      • squeezyjohn
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                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2497

                        #26
                        Piks - I will not enter in to a debate with people who list undocumented pseudo-facts and will try and back up their opinion with anything other than scientifically proven realities - there is no point because people more interested in their own opinion than facts are impossible to have a discussion with.
                        Squeezyjohn

                        Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                        • squeezyjohn
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                          • Jan 2008
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                          #27
                          In fact it's a bit like trying to have a sensible discussion about harm reduction using snus with an anti-tobacco zealot.
                          Squeezyjohn

                          Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                          • Skell18
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                            • May 2012
                            • 7067

                            #28
                            Originally posted by squeezyjohn View Post
                            Piks - I will not enter in to a debate with people who list undocumented pseudo-facts and will try and back up their opinion with anything other than scientifically proven realities - there is no point because people more interested in their own opinion than facts are impossible to have a discussion with.
                            This! What happened to eating a balanced diet and exercising? Do you stay on this "diet" for the rest of your life? I eat, I drink, I enjoy life, I will go when I go, I will eat bacon whenever the hell I want to, I will eat whatever the f,uck I want to eat whenever I want to eat it. I had lobster for lunch today, why? I wanted to! Peace!

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                            • squeezyjohn
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                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2497

                              #29
                              I mean - are there detailed studies of these people in Tibet who ate yak butter with tea for breakfast showing the amazing fat-burning qualities of undergoing ketosis were for their overall health and wellbeing for the entirety of their lives (probably up to the age of 40 if they were lucky!)?

                              Or could it be that they were healthy and needed almost unlimited fat and calories due to living in a world where there was absolutely no mechanisation and they worked long physically gruelling days just to stay alive - a level of physical work and exercise that would make most of our western sedentary asses cry with the exhaustion?

                              It's a fad - just like all the other things which aren't simply eating the right amount of the right things to balance out with your energy requirements based on your activity during the day. Simple equation really - eat the same amount of calories as you use up while ingesting the right things to make your body function.

                              And if it's as easy as that, why am I such a fat bastard you ask? Well - you have to make the most of the life that you live - and we have as long as we have on this Earth ... and then we die and that's the end of it ... so I will have another bacon sandwich and put my feet up in front of the fire please!
                              Squeezyjohn

                              Sometimes wrong and sometimes right .... but ALWAYS certain!!!

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                              • Andy105
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                                • Nov 2013
                                • 1393

                                #30
                                The guy who started it was a Silicon Valley investment guy named Dave Asprey. He's got the Bulletproof coffee stuff trademarked, and sells a lot of magic coffee beans and special oils, so he got rich.

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