Confederate Flag Controversy

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EBay bans sales of Confederate flag on its site (And Etsy,Amazon, too)

Calling it a "contemporary symbol of divisiveness and racism," eBay said Tuesday that it will ban the sale of Confederate flags and similarly themed merchandise.
"This decision is consistent with our long-standing policy that prohibits items that promote or glorify hatred, violence and racial intolerance," said eBay spokeswoman Johnna Hoff.
The e-commerce company is the latest to prohibit the sale of Confederate merchandise following Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Sears Holdings Corp.

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[Snusdog]

Ok.....just a quick history lesson

this is notthe confederate flag..........




it is the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (Lee's Army).


The Flag of the Confederacy for the majority of the war was the "Stars and Bars"




It was changed later to the "Stainless Banner" because it was hard to distinguish on the battlefield from the Union (American) flag. In turn the "Stainless Banner looked too much like a surrender flag on the battle field and so was replaced at the very end of the war with the "Blood Stained Banner"

The so called "rebel flag" (Lee's Flag) that most call the confederate flag was based on the St. Andrew's Cross of the Scottish flag with the stars inside the cross representing the confederate states.

The Bonnie Blue flag was was the flag flown on the Battery in Charleston by the SC forces when Fort Sumter was fired upon and taken (which started the war)



My point is that for all this talk of heritage.......very few seem to actually know the heritage.......

In turn there are several flag options (much more historically accurate and far less upsetting to others) by which to remember that heritage.

Wave the Bonnie Blue....or the National Flag of the Confederacy .........and not one person will take offence.....because not one person will know what it is

Peace
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[Snusdog]

And since I am a Native South Carolinian let me add just one more detail to our history lesson.

There has been a lot of talk about the Rebel flag (Flag of the Army of Northern VA) that flies over our state Capital building. Here is how it got there

General Wade Hampton was a native of SC and a brilliant Cavalry Commander. He replaced J.E.B. Stewart as Lee's chief cavalry commander after Stewart's death. As the war drew to a close and Sherman headed into SC on a rampage. Hampton asked Lee for permission to return home and defend the Capital (the very state house upon which the flag flies still has cannon balls lodged in its walls from Sherman's guns). When Hampton arrived from Virginia to defend the city he was carrying his regimental flag (the flag of the Northern VA). It was under this flag that the city was defended until it fell.

So my point here is that the reason the flag has flown over the capital has nothing to do with hate nor was it arbitrarily placed there for any sort of white racist pride. It was put there by those who gave their lives to defend their home. It was the flag they fought, bled, and lost under.

And that's how the flag of the Army of Northern VA got on top of the SC state house.

Should it stay there? Well that is entirely another question

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Cooter' from "The Dukes of Hazzard" weighs in on Confederate flag discussion
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Cooter from the hit TV show "The Dukes of Hazzard", weighed in on the Confederate flag discussion, saying he will not change a thing with his business and will continue to sell Confederate flags.
The story has been trending nation-wide in light of last week's tragedy in Charleston where nine people were shot and killed inside a church. Since the accused killer, Dylan Roof, was allegedly seen on a web page holding a Confederate flag, the debate over the true meaning of the flag has been thrown into question.
Ben Jones, who played 'Cooter' on The Dukes of Hazzard and currently owns Cooter's Place in Gatlinburg, said the flag's original meaning is not one of hatred and supremacy.
"This is an American symbol of independence, of rebellion, yes, but of a spirit also of a nation a country, a region, the south that pulled itself back up from total destruction," Jones said.
Jones then went deeper and said he despises anyone who doesn't see the flag as a positive symbol of American history and uses the flag as a tool of race superiority. He said his stores will continue to sell the Confederate flag, and Confederate flag merchandise, because he knows his stores represent what the flag truly stands for.
"We're not going to change a thing at Cooter's. Ever. We know who we are, we're good people, we're not racist. We love everybody and we see that symbol as very, very positive. And we despise people who don't. I despise people who use those symbols for racist or white supremacist purposes," Jones said.

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[Mill]

Thanks very much for that post.

[lxskllr]

It's just a big circle jerk for everyone to show how enlightened they are without doing anything of substance. They're trying to erase history cause if no one can see it, it didn't happen, right?

The number of things that offend me is uncountable, but the only ones I want changed are the ones that violate Constitutional law. Those babies need to put on their big boy pants, and get on with life. That's what well adjusted adults do...

[Andy105]

As another symbol of the south, I'm terrified that "Daisy Duke" shorts will be targeted next.

[Snusdog]

As another symbol of the south, I'm terrified that "Daisy Duke" shorts will be targeted next.

I'm not sure the union would survive if they were

[wa3zrm]

Here is the new American flag:

[kerlin219]

Here is the new American flag:

Haha I wouldn't be surprised if that's the next thing that does get changed once we get our gay president Hilary clinton

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