For you fellow snusers

[sychodelix]

I used to smoke a pipe, but never liked pipe tobacco. I always smoked rolling tobacco in it.

[MrAbstracto]

For those of you interested in picking up a pipe for the first time I'd recommend getting a Missouri Meerschaum corn cob pipe. Very cheap, easy to care for and gives a great smoke.

[holnrew]

holnrew, nasal snuff will give you a real quick nic rush. Get some of that when you get your pipe.

I have got some from the tobacconist before, it's good, but I've acclimatised to it now and don't get any rush from it now.

[lxskllr]

I like a good pipe. That was the first thing I smoked regularly(started when I was about 14). I want to get into it again, but I need to get off my arse, and go get some decent pipe tobacco.

As far as health goes... I'd say it's the worst form of tobacco you can smoke. It's full of flavoring, moisture regulators, and other stuff. In addition to that, it's fairly moist, so it'll burn dirtier. That said, as long as you're reasonable with it, and don't inhale, it isn't going to kill you. I did have a neighbor die from throat cancer after smoking a pipe long term. I wouldn't call his use reasonable though.

[sychodelix]

Yes, although cigarettes have more additives, pipe tobacco and cigars are severely more dangerous and potent. The tobacco is much stronger, therefore the smoke is more hazardous. Luckily, that doesn't apply to smokeless forms of tobacco.

[deebocools]

intellectually, I'm all for people smoking pipes instead of cigs or cigars- but in reality when I've seen anyone without gray hair smoking one, I get extremely annoyed.

[toekuttr]

Yes, although cigarettes have more additives, pipe tobacco and cigars are severely more dangerous and potent. The tobacco is much stronger, therefore the smoke is more hazardous. Luckily, that doesn't apply to smokeless forms of tobacco.

Not sure what you mean by that sycho, some of the tobaccos used both in pipes and cigars are also used in cigarettes. Do you mean Burleys, Va's, Orientals or what? What about the fact that you don't inhale all but the SHS from cigars and pipes as opposed to intentionally inhaling 90% of a cigarettes smoke? Some RYO cig tobacco through a pipe is at least as strong as any pipe tobacco I've smoked, of course, depending on the blend.

I think the point made about pipe tobacco being chock full of PG, preservatives, sugar and flavorings is a good one. I smoke English pipe blends for that reason, I wouldn't want to inhale an aromatic mixture with all that crap in it. English blends, or the ones I use, are straight tobacco, which of course my wife can't stand the 'aromatics' of.

[luckysealy]

has anyone thinking that pipes are worse actually done any research or is it only speculation? the research for pipe smoking is a bit sketchy, but if you smoke 100% tobacco in a pipe the risk compared to cigarettes is considerably lower. most of the moisture in pipe tobacco is water. i'm not scared of water. i'm not saying smoking one is healthy, but compared to cigarettes at the gas station i would trust a good bowl of 100% tobacco any day of the week. tobacco really isn't the enemy. additives, and who knows what else they add are really what i fear.

[lxskllr]

Not too many pipe tobaccos are pure tobacco. Almost all of them have additional ingredients. Everybody makes cigarettes out to be some huge evil, with more toxic sludge than New Jersey. There isn't anything in cigarettes that isn't in other forms of smoking tobacco. I listed a few of them in my previous post. You can get pure pipe tobacco, but you're not going to find it in a American drug store, or supermarket.

Edit:
Burning anything, and especially inhaling it is pretty bad for you. I imagine spinach would give you cancer if you dried it out and smoked it.

[luckysealy]

your right your not going to get them in the supermarket or drug store. i couldn't stand those anyway. i always ordered mine from a tobacco store in tenn. they had some really good blends. yes i do make the american tobacco companies out to be evil. there is very little tobacco left in the cigarettes they make. reconstituted tobacco sheet is some nasty stuff. i am referring mainly to the smell and taste. i tend to forget about the drugstore crap they pass off as pipe tobacco since i smoked really good stuff.

[toekuttr]

I agree that smoking anything assumes some risk but I'd be hard pressed to believe that either pipes or cigars carry the same risks as cigarettes. You don't generally inhale!

All things in moderation, even cigarettes. I do only smoke RYO for the last couple years but hardly for health reasons. Premades nowadays just taste like crap. My only point is that some pipe tobacco is stronger than some cigarette tobacco and vica versa. Those blanket statements are rarely, if ever true.

In any case, a few bowls of Stokkebyes will cure anyone of using supermarket tobacco again and the difference in cost isn't that great if you watch where you shop (LBSS).

[luckysealy]

i agree stokkebyes is good stuff. my go to if i ran out of my house blends from gatlinburlier.

[lxskllr]

I agree that smoking anything assumes some risk but I'd be hard pressed to believe that either pipes or cigars carry the same risks as cigarettes. You don't generally inhale!

All things in moderation, even cigarettes. I do only smoke RYO for the last couple years but hardly for health reasons. Premades nowadays just taste like crap. My only point is that some pipe tobacco is stronger than some cigarette tobacco and vica versa. Those blanket statements are rarely, if ever true.

I generally agree. The problem with pipes and cigars, is your mouth gets covered with burned material, and then it can wash down your throat. Not a big deal if you aren't smoking all day, but I would say the cancer risk is almost equal between all the smoking types assuming a similar consumption pattern(1 pack per day, several cigars, bowl packs...).

I don't think I ever smoked pure tobacco in my pipes. The only drug store brand I'd get on occasion was Middleton's Cherry. Otherwise, I generally got custom blends from the tobacco store(I don't know where they came from). When I finally get my pipes out again, I want to try some of the English flake styles. I never had them when I was smoking a pipe.

[toekuttr]

To be fair, there are some grocery store tobaccos that are basically pure tobacco too, just for the record. Good ol' Prince Albert for one, not the tastiest blend in the world, but straight tobacco. Interestingly, it's a dual purpose blend; made for both the pipe smoker and RYO.

Yep, PS is some nice stuff, although there is even better, PS is consistently good.

[luckysealy]

flake is pretty good, does take some practice loading. a really good latakia would be worth a try also. anything that doesn't have flavorings is better. the flaovored stuff usually has sugar and when sugar burns it leads to tongue bite. that is why so many people try a pipe and hate it. they start out with something that smells tasty and after they burn their tongue they think it is terrible.