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  • paulwall9
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    • Nov 2008
    • 743

    Well, of course race is an issue with some of america! There IS, if you choose to see it or not, alot of racism in this country! There are a lot of older timers and younger peoples who are just rasied in the old fashion ways and just can't accept a black person being president!

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    • tom502
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 8985

      I think those that do feel that way, are a small minority, but those that feel that way, I think now don't much care, because they see it doesn't matter because nothing changes no matter who the president is. But I do think his being in office has emboldened many of the anti-white racists and radical leftists, which doesn't help with trying to unify the nation.

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        I think those that do feel that way, are a small minority, but those that feel that way, I think now don't much care, because they see it doesn't matter because nothing changes no matter who the president is. But I do think his being in office has emboldened many of the anti-white racists and radical leftists, which doesn't help with trying to unify the nation.

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        • paulwall9
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 743

          You are very correct Tom502, nothing is any better now than it was b4! But, thats how it goes i guess!

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          • VBSnus
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 532

            Originally posted by sgreger1
            Originally posted by VBSnus
            Originally posted by sgreger1
            Originally posted by tom502
            I don't think we will have a "black" president again. I knew once he won, it would all be about race, and everyone that disagreed with him on any issue would be branded a racist. And why do so many blacks and non whites think they would be better affected under government liberal socialism? I think they have been lured and misled to believe they are "victims" and think a new system would give them freebies.


            RACIST!!!!!!!!

            lol, it's true though. Obama becoming the first black president has set back the civil rights movement 100 years. How ironic is it that the first administration with a black President, and a female speaker of the house would also be the one who robbed/ spent all of the countries money and credit, and left us to pay the bill?
            I'm confused. On the one hand you decry the concept that race is any factor in the negative attitude towards Obama or liberalism, and on the other hand you say that there won't be any more black presidents because of him. If race isn't an issue, it shouldn't matter.

            Conservatives hated Carter. Did anyone say there wouldn't be any more white presidents?


            Allow me to unconfuse you. I dont believe race was a factor in picking him because many whites voted for him and everyone was voting AGAINST bush and the republicans. But since then, liberals seem to claim that race is the reason why people disagree with him, and not because his ideas aren't good. Im saying that the racial tension in America has only INCREASED since he took office, and felt that it was ironic.
            Sure, I get your point, and I do hate when people decry any negative reaction to a policy as racism.

            My confusion was over the comments that there won't be any more black presidents because of this, or that he has set the civil rights movement back. That suggests that people will tie his political mistakes to his color, and therefore not vote another person of that color into office again...which is the very definition of racism.

            Again, many white presidents have messed up, some horribly. Did that stop people from electing white men?

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            • tom502
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              • Feb 2009
              • 8985

              I don't know if it's this computer, or the site, but nothing wants to click and follow through. Sorry for the double posts.

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              • VBSnus
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 532

                Originally posted by tom502
                I don't know if it's this computer, or the site, but nothing wants to click and follow through. Sorry for the double posts.
                Damn conservatives and their double posting ways.

                Just kidding man. I hate when that happens.

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  Originally posted by VBSnus
                  Sure, I get your point, and I do hate when people decry any negative reaction to a policy as racism.

                  My confusion was over the comments that there won't be any more black presidents because of this, or that he has set the civil rights movement back. That suggests that people will tie his political mistakes to his color, and therefore not vote another person of that color into office again...which is the very definition of racism.

                  Again, many white presidents have messed up, some horribly. Did that stop people from electing white men?

                  Ah, I see your point now. I said it in a joking fashion, I do not actually believe that a black person will never get elected again. Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol) I think we can expect to see many black presidents in the future, and frankly I couldn't care less.


                  Its like black people in general, I hate black gang bangers who steal my car radio , but I do like black people who work in my office and are regular people. Its the same with the president. I dont like black presidents who come in and rob my country, but I do like black Presidents that come in and do the right thing, and help the country.



                  EDIT: Basicly, it shouldnt be a racial issue, and I wish everyone would stop saying that you just dont like his policies because he's black. Its twenty-o-nine, not the 1920's, we should be past this already.

                  I just want to see someone wh will come in and strip all the excess fat off of government.

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                  • VBSnus
                    Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 532

                    Originally posted by sgreger1
                    Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol)
                    I plan to use this at least 3 times in casual conversation. Love it.

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                    • paulwall9
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 743

                      sgreger1 wrote:
                      Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol)

                      VBSNUS wrote:
                      I plan to use this at least 3 times in casual conversation. Love it.

                      AWESOME!!!!

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                      • sgreger1
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        Originally posted by paulwall9
                        sgreger1 wrote:
                        Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol)

                        VBSNUS wrote:
                        I plan to use this at least 3 times in casual conversation. Love it.

                        AWESOME!!!!

                        "Racial chery popping" is a registered trademark of Sgreger1, go ahead and just mail me your current stock of snus and that should cover the royalties :lol:

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                        • VBSnus
                          Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 532

                          Originally posted by sgreger1
                          Originally posted by paulwall9
                          sgreger1 wrote:
                          Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol)

                          VBSNUS wrote:
                          I plan to use this at least 3 times in casual conversation. Love it.

                          AWESOME!!!!

                          "Racial chery popping" is a registered trademark of Sgreger1, go ahead and just mail me your current stock of snus and that should cover the royalties :lol:
                          That's a really steep price for so common a necessity sgreger1. I think that this function needs to be brought up under the federal government. Hopefully I can get on a subsidy so I only need to send them a pris a month, and then they can give me unlimited right to utilize the phrase. You, of course, will only be able to utilize it once per day.

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                          • tom502
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 8985

                            Personally, I think Obama comes across and a nice, decent, intelligent guy. I don't find myself agreeing with his world sociopolitical view very often though. I don't think the racial implications are so much that he is of a certain race, but because he is along with his connections and supports from a variety of more radical left leaning race playing groups and people, that try, and sometimes do, with his cabinit.
                            I did not vote for Obama. But I was always hoping Colin Powell would have run, as I would have happily voted for him, even though I don't agree 100% with everything he says.
                            So, I would be happy to have anyone of any race take office, if they did not have racially polarizing baggage, and a too leftist big government control national vision.

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                            • paulwall9
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 743

                              TOM, that is totally how I am as well!!

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                              • sgreger1
                                Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 9451

                                Originally posted by VBSnus
                                Originally posted by sgreger1
                                Originally posted by paulwall9
                                sgreger1 wrote:
                                Infact, since we have popped our racial cherry in this country (lol)

                                VBSNUS wrote:
                                I plan to use this at least 3 times in casual conversation. Love it.

                                AWESOME!!!!

                                "Racial chery popping" is a registered trademark of Sgreger1, go ahead and just mail me your current stock of snus and that should cover the royalties :lol:
                                That's a really steep price for so common a necessity sgreger1. I think that this function needs to be brought up under the federal government. Hopefully I can get on a subsidy so I only need to send them a pris a month, and then they can give me unlimited right to utilize the phrase. You, of course, will only be able to utilize it once per day.



                                Well I personally believe the forefathers made it clear that having a pris is a god-given right, and one protected by the constituion. Therefore I suggest we have a "government snus option" to help level out the playing field. It will cost us a $1.8 trillion down-payment, but it will allow everyone, including the 50 million people currently in lack of a pris, to be able to live with this essential service.

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