Moon bombing

[VBSnus]

I'd prefer the word "hogswallop" to "interesting" on that one.

Vacuum theory in quotes? Moon clouds? Remember that a conspiracy of this magnitude would not only have to involve all government entities, users of high powered telescopes, and astronauts, but also mathematicians, chemists, physicists, and biological scientists in the world. Vacuums aren't something we assume, or something we know because man went to the moon. It's a concrete foundation of physics.

That being said, I believe aliens exist if only due to the statistics of it all. Earth is a backwater planet in a backwater galaxy, and I believe the chances of life NOT existing anywhere else in the galaxy are far greater than the chances of life existing elsewhere. We also have to consider lifeforms which are non carbon based and do not require oxygen, water, etc. to survive.

[truthwolf1]

UFO'S do exist and it is now a fact from recent European government releases. (History Channel)

Does that sink in? UFO'S ARE A FACT! It took me awhile to understand that statement myself.

That does not mean they are alien ships or anything else other then the fact that there are officially sightings that have no explanation.

The next step is our governments full disclosure on the subject which I doubt will happen.

[RRK]

UFO'S do exist and it is now a fact from recent European government releases. (History Channel)

Does that sink in? UFO'S ARE A FACT! It took me awhile to understand that statement myself.

That does not mean they are alien ships or anything else other then the fact that there are officially sightings that have no explanation.

The next step is our governments full disclosure on the subject which I doubt will happen.

Link?

[truthwolf1]

The show was I Know what I Saw

trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Etw33HrvPU

[sgreger1]

The next step is our governments full disclosure on the subject which I doubt will happen.

They made Project Blue Book public now but probably left out anything of actual relevance before declassifying it.

But it shows that the US, as well as most other developed countries have official intelligence branches to investigate the UFO phenomena. So somethings going on.

[VBSnus]

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. Of course we have had flying objects which could not be identified. It's a fallacy to immediately assume aliens though, as much as we'd like to!

[sgreger1]

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. Of course we have had flying objects which could not be identified. It's a fallacy to immediately assume aliens though, as much as we'd like to!

Yah but when you see them in space, during a time which humans are just barely inventing rocket technology, it kind of alludes to the fact that maybe they are of extra terrestrial origin.


The way I see it, it would make no logical sense to believe that life is NOT abundant in the universe.

The three most common elements are hydrogen, helium, and oxygen.

Since helium atoms don't form parts of any molecules at all, that leaves hydrogen and oxygen as the most common compound forming elements in the universe.

Since those two are the most abbundant, they will form compounds, the most stablest of which is H20, as it is less volatile than the other various coumpounds you can make with them. It can exist as an ice, a gas, or a liquid.

We have water on several if not all of the planets & moons we have observed in our solar system. Out of 9 planets, 1 of them has life (earth) in abundance.


If my math is correct, the odds point towards their being a giant orgy of life all over the universe, and since our planet and sun are relitavely new in comparison to others that have been observed, it wouldnt be too outlandish to say that there is probably intelligent life out there as well.

[cobrageezer]

This subject keeps dragging me back. It's like a train wreck. People coming from miles around to see. Myself, I have doubts, but to assume that we are alone in the cosmos is just man's own arrogance. Shining like a beacon in the night.

[RRK]

On the same note I have heard the chances of another civilization reaching earth are also extremely low if you take into account the amount of technology needed to travel here in a feasible amount of time the interest in our planet or species gets proportionally smaller. So, once another civilization is capable they no longer have the desire.

[sgreger1]

On the same note I have heard the chances of another civilization reaching earth are also extremely low if you take into account the amount of technology needed to travel here in a feasible amount of time the interest in our planet or species gets proportionally smaller. So, once another civilization is capable they no longer have the desire.

I am not sure if I would agree with that. As they become more technologically advanced (humans at least) tend to want to go explore and learn new things, even if it about a species less advanced than yous, that's why we study animals etc. And if there was life on other planets we would study it.

Not sure how the phsyche of an alien would work but if they are anything like humans they will be curiouse enough to watch.


Look at star trek? We invented warp speed and just set sail to the opposite end of the universe to see what we could along the way.


The moon base thing is hard for me to believe just because it's the moon and you figure if they were doing something over there someone would have noticed.
*Kayne west interupts *
Hey sgreger1, imma let you finnish, but the moon was the most studied celestial body of all time!!!!!

[tom502]

I think ET's tech is way advanced, and while we look at things with what we know, and is limited, what they know may be highly advanced, so they may be able to travel in ways we can't currently understand. Personally, I believe Mars was once inhabited and "earth-like". In time, they may have migrated to Earth, and are our ancestors. There is way too many photos, videos, and credible witnesses that show real machanized craft that exceeds our known technology. There is more proof of ET UFOs than God.

[cobrageezer]

Well there is the theory that things like computer chips, silicon wafers, and other electronic advancments all happened after the "Roswell crash".

[chadizzy1]

Well there is the theory that things like computer chips, silicon wafers, and other electronic advancments all happened after the "Roswell crash".

Reverse Engineering.

But I think it's just a coincidence. The human race was just moving forward drastically in that day and age, I think you could make that comparison with about anything, really.

[RRK]

I think ET's tech is way advanced, and while we look at things with what we know, and is limited, what they know may be highly advanced, so they may be able to travel in ways we can't currently understand. Personally, I believe Mars was once inhabited and "earth-like". In time, they may have migrated to Earth, and are our ancestors. There is way too many photos, videos, and credible witnesses that show real machanized craft that exceeds our known technology. There is more proof of ET UFOs than God.

Carl Sagen and Michio Kaku are both quoted as saying that they don't believe highly advanced species would have any interest in us until we are advanced enough to contact them. They are both operating under the assumption that those highly advanced civilizations would already be in contact with many other civilizations that are near the same level of development. The more abundant life is in the universe the less interesting we become. Especially if Michio Kaku is correct in his idea that as we attempt to transition from a type 0 civilization to a type 1, we are at our most dangerous.

[sgreger1]

Since the UFO phenomena seems to lead me to believe that they are here peacefully, I have two theories as to why they are not making themselves more known

1) The prime directive from star trek. Says basicly look but don't touch, not their job to interfere with developing worlds.

2) We are a threat or potential threat, and they have us on hold untill we grow up. Surely if they gave us advanced tech we would weaponize it.

and, a third theory is that they already have contacted important people on earth and are in an alliance of some type for reasons unknown. I see very little evidence for this because a country in direct alliance with an advanced alien race would be way ahead of the curb.


I think we are of little importance, and we are not sure what the motif to even contact us would be. If they made it this far, I doubt that we were the first aliens they came in contact with.


I do however believe they are here, in mass apparently, for whatever reason. Too many UFO experiences from important people who have no reason to lie.