The degradation of the nobel peace prize

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  • JPono
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 415

    #16
    It's sad that I fear talking about Obama because people will call me a racist, what has our country come to?
    ..choosing not to vote in this poll, but a little confused by your comment, Chad.

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    • sagedil
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 7077

      #17
      Originally posted by RRK
      Originally posted by sagedil
      Yeah, SO much worse than when they gave one to Yasir Arafat 15 years ago. Or what about Henry A. Kissinger?
      But both of those peace prizes were given jointly to two sides of conflicts for resolving a peace treaty.
      No, don't remember any prize going to the Vietnam side. And Kissinger??? <shudder>

      All I will say is if you read back through the history of the prize, these criticisms of it are nothing new./

      And just some last perspective. This prize is named for the guy that invented dynamite. Not sure it ever meant anything.

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      • chadizzy1
        Member
        • May 2009
        • 7432

        #18
        Originally posted by sagedil
        Originally posted by RRK
        Originally posted by sagedil
        Yeah, SO much worse than when they gave one to Yasir Arafat 15 years ago. Or what about Henry A. Kissinger?
        But both of those peace prizes were given jointly to two sides of conflicts for resolving a peace treaty.
        No, don't remember any prize going to the Vietnam side. And Kissinger??? <shudder>

        All I will say is if you read back through the history of the prize, these criticisms of it are nothing new./

        And just some last perspective. This prize is named for the guy that invented dynamite. Not sure it ever meant anything.
        I can imagine his acceptance speech

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        • RRK
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 926

          #19
          Originally posted by sagedil
          No, don't remember any prize going to the Vietnam side.
          1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
          http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/

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          • Redbeard
            Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 390

            #20
            Was the prize premature? Yes.

            Is Obama as evil as many on the right have portrayed him to be? No.

            Obama inherited a couple of shitty situations. Obviously, the economy. Also, a neglected war in Afghanistan. I can see small progress being made on the economy, which can probably be attributed to both the end of the previous administration and the beginning of this one. I think it will take some time before the average American feels any relief from these bad times, though. We are starting to see a refocus on Afghanistan, as well, after 6 years of being distracted by Iraq (which I still believe was unnecessary).

            I'm not an Obama apologist and still have some criticisms. For instance, I think he should have stuck to his guns on health care by being more insistent on a public option.

            Overall, I voted for the man and really would like to see him succeed, but he doesn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize yet.

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            • Veganpunk
              Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 5381

              #21
              Originally posted by chadizzy1
              Originally posted by Veganpunk
              It's too early to tell. Oh yea he should be back at The White House. Or maybe on his Texas ranch for weeks at a time. Jesus the guy hasn't been in office a year, and all I hear is how bad he is. Maybe it's due to living in South Alabama, but come on. Bush was universally hated by the world, except for Americans who think religion should be in government. Or the War On Iraq was about 911. Or that think someone like Obama is gonna take away our guns. It's too early to tell how he will be as a president. Personally I think the guy is allright. At least he's intelligent. Which is way more than I can say for the last guy.
              This is what happens though, anytime anybody talks negative about him.

              "Give him a chance."
              "He's not as bad as the last guy."
              "You're being racist."
              "He's only been around a year."

              I hear that all the time, when I say something bad about Obama. Seems like there's ALWAYS an excuse that can be made. If he slips up once and somebody tries to say something, all these excuses come out. And they're DEFENDED. You cannot say anything negative about Obama, PERIOD. It's a fact. If you do, you risk public embarassment.

              Bush? Oh you can say whatever you want. It's okay.

              It's a ridiculous double standard.

              All I'm trying to say is he didn't deserve this award, he hasn't done anything to deserve it, and that's a fact.
              Come down here and that's all you hear.

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              • chadizzy1
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 7432

                #22
                I'm in the South too I hear it.

                But I bet Alabama is ALOT worse.

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                • truthwolf1
                  Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2696

                  #23
                  This is funny. Obama continues all of Bush's old policies, even the Patriot Act and get's a prize for it.

                  Maybe this is one of those we know you don't deserve this but we are going to give it to you anyway's type deal.

                  I am glad it's Friday.

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                  • sgmurder
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 19

                    #24
                    Originally posted by chadizzy1
                    I'm in the South too I hear it.

                    But I bet Alabama is ALOT worse.
                    Same here in N.O.

                    What a joke!

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                    • sgmurder
                      Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 19

                      #25
                      Liberal rat bastard!

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                      • texasmade
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4159

                        #26
                        Originally posted by sgmurder
                        Liberal rat bastard!

                        BATRASTARD FOR PREZ!!! :lol:

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                        • desirexe
                          Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1170

                          #27
                          By Obama receiving this prestigious award, it gives me hope...that someday I too can get the award! <--sarcasm

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                          • texasmade
                            Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4159

                            #28
                            Originally posted by desirexe
                            By Obama receiving this prestigious award, it gives me hope...that someday I too can get the award! <--sarcasm
                            and tiger woods is a down south home cooking thai culinary master..

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Veganpunk
                              Which is why I didn't vote. (In your poll)

                              Lol, the poll asks if he currently has done something to deserve the NPP. The answer of course is no. Even if he does something in the future, that is not the problem, the problem is that he got it without having accomplished anything. Rogue nations are still being rogue nations, hating us and our allies. Just status quo, nothing has changed.

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                              • sgreger1
                                Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 9451

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Veganpunk
                                And no American president ever will.
                                Shoulnd't be promising something you know you can't deliver. That would be a lie, and all politicians do this. Not change, more of the same.

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