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[sgreger1]

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Barack Obama’s Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings founded the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) in 1990. In 2007 Kevin Jennings was paid $273,573.96 as the executive director of GLSEN. Recently he was appointed by the Obama administration to run the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools in the US Department of Education.


What we discovered shocked us. We were flabbergasted. Rendered speechless.

We were unprepared for what we encountered. Book after book after book contained stories and anecdotes that weren’t merely X-rated and pornographic, but which featured explicit descriptions of sex acts between pre-schoolers; stories that seemed to promote and recommend child-adult sexual relationships; stories of public masturbation, anal sex in restrooms, affairs between students and teachers, five-year-olds playing sex games, semen flying through the air. One memoir even praised becoming a prostitute as a way to increase one’s self-esteem. Above all, the books seemed to have less to do with promoting tolerance than with an unabashed attempt to indoctrinate students into a hyper-sexualized worldview.


During one of the conference workshops an activist asks 14 year-old students, “Spit or swallow?… Is it rude?” This audio clip segment is also posted here.

That’s not all. The conference also included a workshop where GLSEN activists promoted “fisting” to 14 year olds.

The material (here and here) is shocking and repulsive. The fact that Kevin Jennings’ organization GLSEN was promoting these books to children is very disturbing.


Woman: Question is: What’s fisting?

Man: A little known fact is that you don’t make a fist like this. When they do it, it’s like this. This is a lot easier than this. [laughter]

Woman: You work your way up to it… [unclear] one finger, two fingers, three fingers … Some people can take a hand, or they can’t take a hand.


You just heard a public employee promote “fisting” to 14-year-olds. Kevin Jennings who ran GLSEN is now Barack Obama’s Safe Schools Czar.

To be clear, this post is not about supporting or not supporting gays or gay rights. This post is about the radical agenda of groups like GLSEN and activists like Kevin Jennings.

[Roo]

Whew, thankfully there are other news sources than sgreger1! F'd up story though, and thanks for a thread with "fisting boys" in the title. (??) I don't have the time or energy to look into this further, but it seems like your target is pretty far removed from the audio clips in question, from 2000:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200912070022

Edit: Excuse me, "little boys". Jesus man

[sagedil]

This mass postings of whatever the latest wingbat e-mail has to stop sgreger1. No offense, but it often just makes you look stupid. As Roo was kind enough to post, this has been debunked forever. Juts because it is on Fox, does not always make it true....

Just some background for folks, this is what the organization in question is about. Whatever mistakes were made 9 years ago, what the do is good. Growing up in the 70's, I had too many friends that were hurt badly, including one classmate who killed himself because he couldn't deal with the fact he was Gay. So I know WHY this is necessary. I can't begin to tell you how I offended I was sgreger1......


GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, is the leading national education organization focused on ensuring safe schools for all students. Established in 1990, GLSEN envisions a world in which every child learns to respect and accept all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. GLSEN seeks to develop school climates where difference is valued for the positive contribution it makes to creating a more vibrant and diverse community.
Mission and History of GLSEN

Founded as a local group in 1990, the Gay and Lesbian Independent School Teachers Network (GLSTN) began as a volunteer group of 70 gay and lesbian educators.


BTW, the national sponsors of GLSEN include Cisco, Citi, Goldman Sachs, IBM, KPMG, National Education Association and PepsiCo.

FAQs: About GLSEN

http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/al...cord/1874.html

[RobsanX]

I know that I GLISTEN after a good fisting...

[sgreger1]

This mass postings of whatever the latest wingbat e-mail has to stop sgreger1. No offense, but it often just makes you look stupid. As Roo was kind enough to post, this has been debunked forever. Juts because it is on Fox, does not always make it true....

Just some background for folks, this is what the organization in question is about. Whatever mistakes were made 9 years ago, what the do is good. Growing up in the 70's, I had too many friends that were hurt badly, including one classmate who killed himself because he couldn't deal with the fact he was Gay. So I know WHY this is necessary. I can't begin to tell you how I offended I was sgreger1......


GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, is the leading national education organization focused on ensuring safe schools for all students. Established in 1990, GLSEN envisions a world in which every child learns to respect and accept all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. GLSEN seeks to develop school climates where difference is valued for the positive contribution it makes to creating a more vibrant and diverse community.
Mission and History of GLSEN

Founded as a local group in 1990, the Gay and Lesbian Independent School Teachers Network (GLSTN) began as a volunteer group of 70 gay and lesbian educators.


BTW, the national sponsors of GLSEN include Cisco, Citi, Goldman Sachs, IBM, KPMG, National Education Association and PepsiCo.

FAQs: About GLSEN

http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/al...cord/1874.html

No sage. The anti-american yet pro-obama people on snuson can dismiss whatever they like, as it is a free country. Yet this claiming everything is debunked is BS. Just like the science czar who wrote about his love for eugenics or Van jones who was a 9-11 truther (amongst other things), this admins cabinet (like past admins) is filled with extremists.


Funny how no one makes any mention of stopping a certain type of post when judgefaust is praising dictators and bashing the US, or when KK is praising Hitler. Yet when I post a piece of news I get the one-on-one from Sage.


Also, this was not a chain email. Also, i rarely watch Fox news, or any Tv news for that matter, as they are all following their own agenda.


I'm sorry about your classmate and I have nothing against the gay community, as I have one gay family member, and many of my wife's friends are gay.

However I don't like the fact that the schools have been filled with pro-global warming songs, how they are selling school supplies with Obama logos and trademarks on them, how they sing pro-obama songs or how his cabinet has radical ties in the past.

BTW, the national sponsors of GLSEN include Cisco, Citi, Goldman Sachs, IBM, KPMG, National Education Association and PepsiCo.

Yes, mentioning that they are sponsored by goldman sachs makes your argument so much more appealing.

"You know the tape recordings are not [professional]; you know, they look very amateurish. GLSEN could have claimed that they were fake, but they didn't," Camenker points out. "They admitted that it was all true."

Camenker says his organization was sued when they went public with the tapes, but they eventually won the right to post them. Kevin Jennings, who was recently appointed head of SafeSchools by Education Secretary Arne Duncan, founded GLSEN and was running it at the time.

So explain to me, Sage, how this has been "debunked". As even the organisation itself admits to it, and fired people over it.

No offense, but it often just makes you look stupid.

It may make me look like whatever it does, but I feel it makes you look stupid when you are constantly defending oganisations/people that have done bad things just because you are so adminatly to the left. You say Acorn is a great company that helps minorities, never mind the voter fraud, aiding in child prostitution and countless other illegla thigns theyve done.

You say this group was okay because it was just something that happened 9 years ago.

Can I then make the claim that Bush was good and that the whole war thing was just a mistake from 8 years ago, so we should forget about it?

[sgreger1]

Whew, thankfully there are other news sources than sgreger1! F'd up story though, and thanks for a thread with "fisting boys" in the title. (??) I don't have the time or energy to look into this further, but it seems like your target is pretty far removed from the audio clips in question, from 2000:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200912070022

From your article:

In fact, Jennings reportedly criticized "some of the" workshop's "content" when the recordings were first released in 2000, and the people involved in conducting the controversial discussion -- none of whom were GLSEN employees -- were either terminated or resigned.

On May 18, 2000, the Boston Herald reported that GLSEN "agreed yesterday that three workshop leaders crossed a line with raunchy content directed at students as young as 14 years old."

"Like the Parents Rights Coalition and the Department of Education, GLSEN is also troubled by some of the content that came up during this workshop," said Kevin Jennings, national executive director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network.

of the three state Department of Education employees or contractors who led the seminar, one was fired, one resigned, and one had his contract canceled, as a result of the discussion.

Driscoll said he had canceled the contract of a third presenter at the March workshop, which included frank talk about how to use a condom and how to perform oral sex."

So what i'm hearing is that there was backlash at the content of the discussion and they had to fire a few people, then Jenning backtracked and said she too was amazed by it's content.

So basicly what's going on is that this has not been debunked and that the event did in fact take place. Infact multiple people were fired because of it.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

It's funny how people here "have an open mind" when it comes ot discussing the greatnes of dictators who have murdered millions, but when it comes to criticizing the Obama admin the subject is too taboo.

Edit: Excuse me, "little boys". Jesus man

I'm not the one who made the presentation.

[sgreger1]

From wikipedia: Fistgate

There were also parents present at the meeting. One of these was Scott Whiteman. He made a recording of the event, and then presented an affidavit to Middlesex County District Attorney Martha Coakley seeking an investigation into such open advocation of sexual activities to minors by state employees who were on the clock.

They took the same route as ACORN has done, instead of owning up to what they had done, they tried to sue the person who taped it, claiming it violated wiretap laws.

After the Fistgate incident was revealed, a judge issued a gag order against the tape of the meeting. Some people, including Nat Hentoff argued that this gag order violated the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, since the recording was of a public meeting. Since mid-2009, the tapes have been available to the public.

Also, the actions were found, in court, to have not been by rogue individuals but by the organisation itself.

One of the dismissed employees, Margot Abels, sued Massachusetts after she was fired. The court ordered her reinstatement because it seemed to the judge that she had enough evidence that her supervisors knew beforehand of the planned content of the meeting and so they had fired her for actions they had initially approved.

Keep in mind this is the same Safe School czar who was involved in the scandal with the mishandling of that 15 year old boy.

[Roo]

Dude, quit with the anti-American crap already. There is hardly anyone on here who could be labeled as such... I have only one in mind. And praising Hitler did not go unchecked, **** I spent like 2 hours of my life on that thread.

But it was funny how a quick search for Jennings revealed just one crappy source, the good folks who have nothing better to do than think of wild ways to debunk the current administration. You really did just paste some Fox drivel on the forum, and where called out for it. No big deal. You would have done the same, no?

[Roo]

Sorry, wasn't trying to argue your point with an alternate source, that was just the first thing to come up, which indicated that it was all Faux News. Honestly, I don't even care.

And critisizing the Obama administration is far from taboo in my book, I don't give a shit. It had nothing to do with that.

And why do you keep railing on me for "discussing the greatness of dictators who have murdered millions" ??? Maybe you missed how much time I spent arguing against the glorification of Mao and ****ing Hitler for god's sake. Seriously man, take that up with Tom and the Judge, leave me out of it.

[sgreger1]

Sorry, wasn't trying to argue your point with an alternate source, that was just the first thing to come up, which indicated that it was all Faux News. Honestly, I don't even care.

And critisizing the Obama administration is far from taboo in my book, I don't give a shit. It had nothing to do with that.

And why do you keep railing on me for "discussing the greatness of dictators who have murdered millions" ??? Maybe you missed how much time I spent arguing against the glorification of Mao and ****ing Hitler for god's sake. Seriously man, take that up with Tom and the Judge, leave me out of it.

Sorry Roo, I wasn't really referring to you. Your pretty level headed and I didn't mean to direct it at you.

However, it pisses me off that sage personally chases my threads down to be the antagonist regardless of what I am posting. Whereas other threads on political things tend to go untouched, or are granted only a casual comment.

The point is, you can call it Fox news crap or whatever, I really don't care. The point is, that it did infact happen, as is abundantly clear from every source from my link, to your link from media matters, to wikipedia, and regardless of how great this gay advocacy group is, the event in question is ****ing sick.
I don't care how non-PC it is, but teaching little boys about how to fist each other and do other shit in a public school on taxpayer dollar is ****ing sick and i'm not afraid to say it. It has nothing to do with me being against gays, because I am not. I am against sick ****s.


Sage tries to say that what you posted shows how it was "debunked" long ago, yet the media matters site does in fact admit that it happened.

You really did just paste some Fox drivel on the forum

I don't get it, is it that Fox news is in the business of just making things up, when they reported on Michael Jackson dying, was that just fox news drivel? I don't get it, they report on most of the same shit everyone else does.

I posted something about an event that happened. There is no dispute that the event happened, because it did. Even 2 judges were involved in this, so obviousely it happened. The organisation itself admitted it happened.

So how is something that actually happened in real life somehow "fox news drivel"?

For someone as open minded as you appear to be, it is sad to see that you have jumped in with the crowd that believes anything from Fox somehow didn't happen. Yes, they are slanted to the right, and hate democrats in the same way that other news orgs are slanted to the left and hate republicans. Doesn't mean either of them are making up this story.

[Roo]

Touche...



Any way to change the title on this thread? I'm a visual thinker :?

EDIT: Woah, how did you sneak all that shit by me while I was "touche-ing" you? Lol I'm not saying Fox doesn't report on real news EVER, but their cronies devote disgusting amounts of time to digging up old crap like this and scouring Obama's birth certificate and ancestral records lol -- all in the attempt to discredit the administration. You yourself have pointed out how slanted they are, I was just surprised to see you copy and paste directly from them. I, like you, prefer my news from unbiased and/or international news sources. Like CNN, which is broadcast all over the world! :wink:

[tom502]

Now I did not "praise" Hitler. I think he was psychotic, and paranoid, did many bad and wrong things, and had terrible negatives in his system, which led to it's fall. I was just pointing out, his regime, like Stalin's, and others, did have some progressive aspects, in various areas, like art, design, science, technology, socio-economics, many that we and others have adopted, that cannot be denied. But I know it's not PC to mention the H word.

I won't comment on the current article. But you won't expect to find questionable info on the official website. I have not read into this topic at all, and have not visited any of these sites.

[sgreger1]

Now I did not "praise" Hitler. I think he was psychotic, and paranoid, did many bad and wrong things, and had terrible negatives in his system, which led to it's fall. I was just pointing out, his regime, like Stalin's, and others, did have some progressive aspects, in various areas, like art, design, science, technology, socio-economics, many that we and others have adopted, that cannot be denied. But I know it's not PC to mention the H word.

I won't comment on the current article. But you won't expect to find questionable info on the official website. I have not read into this topic at all, and have not visited any of these sites.

This is what i'm saying though. You are saying hey Hitler was a terrible guy, but look at the good stuff he did. I post shit about, hey i'm sure Obama is a great guy, but his policies and cabinet are radical to say the least, and his ranks are filled with tax cheats and extremely questionable individuals.

Yet I get the "oh your just saying something from fox news, or oh it's been debunked." When in fact, neither of those are true, as nowhere did I cite Fox news, nor has this been debunked, the organisation czar in question both admitted it happened.

I won't comment on the current article. But you won't expect to find questionable info on the official website. I have not read into this topic at all, and have not visited any of these sites.

My bad, I must be reading wrong, what do you mean by "You won't expect to find questionable info on the official website"? Which website do you mean.


Sorry, didn't mean to hard on everyone fo rother posts, it's not my place. But I just feel that I get a personal visit from sage every time I post something that's not very PC.


You want PC? Here is goes: It is sick to promote homosexual, transgender, straight, or any other sexual orientation shit that involves graphicly discussing whether you should spit or swallor, how to fist another man's anus etc to 14 year old kids. It is sick and should not be done on the taxpayer dollar.

I don't want the christians pushing their shit on the public schools, and I don't want these sick ****'s doing so either.

[tom502]

I meant you won't find objectionable info about GLSEN on the official GLSEN website.

But I have not followed this story, or debate, and it's really not a subject that highly interests me.

But I bet they didn't teach boy fisting in Hitler's school. Ok now, I am joking. Let's lighten up here. We all have our passionate thoughts, but ranting on a forum won't change things. Most of these things, are beyond one individual to change.

I personally have no bias against gays, or whatever, but I can understand why some parents would not what this topic taught in schools, esp if they believe it is "not right".

[justintempler]

Awwww they're scared of the homosexual. How cute. :roll: