Hey guys, I just made my first purchase on-line today in a couple years, yeah I like brick and mortar. (other than snus and snuff) In making this purchase for a sonar flasher unit for Ice fishing I realized I didn't have to pay taxes on a $350.00 unit if it was purchased from another state. So if you want to recruit others into the PACT fight it might be useful to let them know we may just be the tip of the spear when it comes to these draconian laws....
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I still have to pay taxes, even if I didn't at the time of purchase.
Here in NC, when filing income taxes, I either have to make an item by item list of everything I bough that year over X dollars, or just agree to pay an "estimated" percentage based upon my income. But by law, I am still liable for paying sales taxes on everything I buy. -
So I take it pact doesn't matter to you then sage. Seeing how you already claim all your tobacco purchases, anyway...Comment
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I think the point Bigblue1 is making that once we give them the mechanism to collect sales taxes on interstate tobacco sales then collecting taxes on the rest of our purchases won't be far behind.Comment
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Of course that was my point. Or more specifically the power to ban inter-state trade in the same way they want to ban the snus trade. Listen, all I was trying to do was give another argument for us to use with people who don't give a flip about tobacco. And maybe teach others how they do things incrementally and compartmentalize us all.Originally posted by justintemplerComment
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Hmm... It's a bit of a step to ban interstate trade of otherwise legal(and uncontroversial) products. I'm not saying they won't, but if it gets that far, it's time to take up arms, as the constitution can be considered thrown out at that point(yea, it's slowly happening anyway, but we'll have to wait and see).Originally posted by Bigblue1
I do think they'll start taxing out of state purchases in the not too distant future, but that's almost inevitable. The idea's been floated already, and it's only through luck that it hasn't generated steam. If the recession(depression) continues much longer, it'll be a very real threat.Comment
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this is not new, you're supposed to pay sales tax on out of state internet purchases already. i know a guy who got a bill from the state for purchases the gov managed to trackComment
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Precisely.... There are already laws in place to be enforced. So why the new legislation? To selectively enforce these laws with prejudice. Or maybe to have a law in place to enforce when it fits their agenda.. This is akin to placing new gun laws, When there are more than enough to arrest the bad seeds already. It is about incrementally taking away our freedoms. A little bit at a time. And if it doesn't effect me(us) then we let it happen. Untill one day ........Comment
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Correct, each year, if I accept the states "estimated" tax, then I have fullfilled my legal obligations to pay tax on all my interstate purchases. Or as I said earlier, I could choose to itemize each purchase, but if I miss any, and am audited, the government would check my credit card statements and fine me.Originally posted by Bigblue1
My point is that the law already expects me to pay sakles tax, regardless of where I bought something from, and regardless if taxes were collected at the time of sale. Honestly, it would just be easier if every site just collected it up front. I am already paying it one way or another, the second way would just eliminate paperwork for me.Comment
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I will check with my accountant before a retort on that post. But for the sake of argument, I don't think your income tax filing has anything to do with sales tax, I will get back to you later....Comment
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I'm currently taking Personal Income Tax right now in college (a very horrible class) and I can tell you that sales tax plays into your income tax filing in a couple of ways.Originally posted by Bigblue1
For instance, you can choose to deduct your income tax or sales tax paid on your tax return. This provision came about due to the fact that some states don't have an income tax. Since the people in these states were complaining that they could not deduct that on their taxes, they were allowed to deduct sales tax. This provision is also useful for someone who makes a very large purchase in a given year that would cause your sales tax paid to exceed your income tax.
Now to focus in on the issue we are talking about: you guys are referring to "use tax". Use tax is the tax that you pay for an item that you purchase out of state and use in another or something you purchase in your own state that you did not pay tax on. For instance, if I purchase something from Minnesota and it is sent to my house in Wisconsin, I have to pay Wisconsin sales/use tax on that purchase.
If you pull up your state tax return forms, you will likely find a section that is specifically for this use tax.Comment
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It's the same here in PA. People that purchase tobacco out of state are required to pay PA tax on it! About a year ago, the PA Dept. of Revenue hit a ton of people that didn't report this tax. It seems that out of state tobacco vendors report their sales to the PA Dept of Revenue for folks that live in PA. The majority of people that were hit were those that bought cigarettes from Indian Reservations.Originally posted by sagedil
I purchase the majority of my snus from Get Snus which is a PA company so I pay this tax upfront when I make my purchase.
I don't know how oversea purchases work. I know you have to pay a duty tax on a purchase over a certain amount. Additionally, I don't know if overseas companies report purchases to the PA Dept of Revenue.If you have any problems with my posts or signature
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This is why I wish they would just take it up fron at point of sale. Like Sage said, less paperwork for me.
I doubt overseas vendors report half the tax stuff they should, but then again maybe they do. But the IRS wil have to come find me before they get anything! lolComment
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