Sarah Palin....Yes or no

[justintempler]

I'm an atheist myself, What polititians do in their private lives is fine but when when it comes to public office that's where I draw the line.

Do you understand the difference between atheist and secular? We don't make decisions based on someone's religious superstitions, whether it's Mitt Romney's magic underwear, Sarah Palin being prayed over by a witch doctor, or Mike Huckabee who belives in the inerrancy of the bible and believes that politics and religion go hand in hand.

Hawking does not make a habit of making fun out of religion. Since much of his career has been spent working on Big Bang cosmology it's kind of ironic that the Pope told physicists they should not inquire into the Big Bang itself because that was “the work of God.” When the church is that clueless about science they deserve to be made fun of.

Hawking has stated that he is "not religious in the normal sense" and he believes that "the universe is governed by the laws of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not intervene to break the laws."

[tom502]

As a monist, is the style of Advaita Vedanta, I would say the Universe, and the Laws of Science are "God".

[ddandb]

Unfortunately voting usually comes down to not necessary voting for someone but voting against someone. That is; picking the lesser of two evils.
Would I vote for her? Depends entirely on who she is running against.

[tom502]

That's why I voted for McCain.

[sgreger1]

As a monist, is the style of Advaita Vedanta, I would say the Universe, and the Laws of Science are "God".

This is prettty much what I believe. I don't believe god is some person hovering above us, and there seems to be no evidence (other than myths and legends) that he ever intervenes.

The universe is like a giant computer program with a pre-designated program, governed and constructed by an infinite amount of math that keeps it all in balance. I believe God is the math behind it.


@LX. Im jsut saying he wouldn't make a good candidate because of the reality of how many American's are. Minorities also tend to be very religious so this wouldnt play well with them either.

But I agree, my wife is Catholic and I can't tell you the level of protest I put up sometimes. But everyone has their own beliefs and I respect them. I just think Hawkings makes fun of them and sounds like a know it all snob but that's just me. Doens't mean he's wrong.

[wadetheblade]

SHE IS A JOKE.

[lxskllr]

@LX. Im jsut saying he wouldn't make a good candidate because of the reality of how many American's are. Minorities also tend to be very religious so this wouldnt play well with them either.

I think you're reading to much into the choices ;^)

Really, all I was asking is if you want someone smart as your leader, or a hard worker. There's a lot of hard workers out there, but I wouldn't trust most of them to lead a funeral procession, much less a country :^D

[sgreger1]

@LX. Im jsut saying he wouldn't make a good candidate because of the reality of how many American's are. Minorities also tend to be very religious so this wouldnt play well with them either.

I think you're reading to much into the choices ;^)

Really, all I was asking is if you want someone smart as your leader, or a hard worker. There's a lot of hard workers out there, but I wouldn't trust most of them to lead a funeral procession, much less a country :^D

haha, perhaps your right. Just doing my part to maintain the long held tradition of keeping everything off topic all the time.

I'd rather have someone who is smart. Being president is not like digging ditches, it's a executive position. Therefore, if your smart and on point all you need to do is properly deligate the hard work to others.


Would rather have smart. Something I cannot say we've had in a President for far to long. Either people who want to be president are inherintly retarded (probably not), or politicians who make it to becoming the president are inherintly evil/currupt <-- more likely.

[lxskllr]

Would rather have smart. Something I cannot say we've had in a President for far to long. Either people who want to be president are inherintly retarded (probably not), or politicians who make it to becoming the president are inherintly evil/currupt <-- more likely.

That's been bothering me for awhile now. They're all a bunch of disingenuous asshats whose views reflect what will keep them in office, not what they really feel. Doing the right thing isn't considered important anymore. It's all a power play designed to keep themselves in power :^S

[Premium Parrots]

lets not forget that they are simply the puppets, no matter who they are.

[sgreger1]

Would rather have smart. Something I cannot say we've had in a President for far to long. Either people who want to be president are inherintly retarded (probably not), or politicians who make it to becoming the president are inherintly evil/currupt <-- more likely.

That's been bothering me for awhile now. They're all a bunch of disingenuous asshats whose views reflect what will keep them in office, not what they really feel. Doing the right thing isn't considered important anymore. It's all a power play designed to keep themselves in power :^S

We need to change the election process somehow. I notice they kick into gear right before election time. If we could just constantly keep it only months from the next election they would be more afraid of doing stupid shit.

Come election time everyone in congress is johnny america but then spend the remaining years sucking up until next election time.

[sgreger1]

lets not forget that they are simply the puppets, no matter who they are.

I think thats it. Look at Obama or any other president... they seem great until they get their presidential briefing and thats when they suddenly make a full 180 flop on who they were during election time. Its like the mob walks into the oval office and gives the president "the talk" about being part of "the club" now and educates them on how things are gonna work.
By mob I mean corporate crime syndicate (which I need to get in on)

[Premium Parrots]

I know thats it.



2 1/2 years before he was elected he was called to a meeting with my neighbor and some "people" at my neighbors house. Thats when he was....lets just say informed.... and that when things really got started. He got the job simply because he is such an articulate speaker and has alot of charisma......and he could pull in the black vote. no shit


best not to hire a powerfull man to put in a powerfull postition. He will take advantage of it.

better to put an unknown no power person in and they will follow the puppet strings as they are pulled.

[sgreger1]

I know thats it.



2 1/2 years before he was elected he was called to a meeting with my neighbor and some "people" at my neighbors house. Thats when he was....lets just say informed.... and that when things really got started. He got the job simply because he is such an articulate speaker and has alot of charisma......and he could pull in the black vote. no shit


best not to hire a powerfull man to put in a powerfull postition. He will take advantage of it.

better to put an unknown no power person in and they will follow the puppet strings as they are pulled.

Wait wait wait... Did you get the oppertunity to yell at Obama to get off your lawn?

They are all part ofthe CFR and other groups like bilderberg or whatever the cool conspiracy name is for them nowadays, but to get into places of power one must go through certain channels nowadays before you can get the greenlight and I think it involves selling yourself out.

And your right, Obama was a no one his entire life, but he is a great public speaker and a model African American, they give him a chance at fame to stroke his enormous ego and in return he does things how he is "advised" to.

Same thing with Bush. Bush spent the better part of his life dodging wars and snorting coke, and was a joke his entire political career. He was a frat boy turned to the oval office and basicly just sat back and did what he was told while not really communicating ANYTHING with America.

The difference is that they are trying a new strategy. Where as Bush just did what he did and stayed quiet and didn't explain his rationale for anyhting, Obama is out giving the same campaign speach every day in every country, hopin that if he spreads the big lie enough people won't notice what's actually happening.


This copenhagen thing is really worrying me because I know someone it is aimed at giving the UN more power or some international governing body more power and I think this country needs to maintain our soveriegnty. The copenhagen treaty askes for at least 3 new taxes f 2% or higher for everyone so that we can "raise money for global warming" which (if Europe is any model for cap and trade) will be a disaster to the economy and help the planet very little.

[daruckis]

back to sarah palin though, i would do her, not because i find her especially attractive, but merely to establish dominance.