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  • wa3zrm
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    • May 2009
    • 4436

    #1

    Low Swiss Crime Rate

    During World War II, Hitler ASKED the Swiss if he could move his army through Switzerland to Italy to face the attacking Allies. The Swiss said NO, so the German Army went AROUND Switzerland. Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, and others were all invaded with loss of life and great suffering for their civilian populations. Yet, the powerful German Army was afraid of tiny Switzerland which had less population than ANY of the countries that Germany had invaded. Switzerland has always had one of the lowest violent crime (murder, rape, robbery) rates in the world, and property crimes such as burglary are very rare, with home invasions being almost unheard of. WHY? Watch the video.

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  • snusjus
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    • Jun 2008
    • 2674

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    • lobstershack
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      • Dec 2009
      • 17

      #3
      Is it possible that the swiss have a social security system that makes it more appealing to be a contributing member of society than a felon? Just a thought.

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      • sgreger1
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 9451

        #4
        Originally posted by lobstershack
        Is it possible that the swiss have a social security system that makes it more appealing to be a contributing member of society than a felon? Just a thought.
        Lol, unlikely. People tend to act stupid even when there is monetary benefit for them to do otherwise. I could be a gangbanger or get a job at mcdonald's, and a lot of people will choose gangbanger.

        This is the same thing in all countries that have a lot of weopons and especially in places like Switzerland where they are trained, people don't go rob liquor stores if they figure someone has a gun. Fear of death is a better detterent than buying them off with the prospect of social security in the future.

        Harvard did a study on this once and came to the same conclusion, that the better armed and trained, the safer the country.

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        • daruckis
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 2277

          #5
          Originally posted by sgreger1
          Originally posted by lobstershack
          Is it possible that the swiss have a social security system that makes it more appealing to be a contributing member of society than a felon? Just a thought.
          Lol, unlikely. People tend to act stupid even when there is monetary benefit for them to do otherwise. I could be a gangbanger or get a job at mcdonald's, and a lot of people will choose gangbanger.

          This is the same thing in all countries that have a lot of weopons and especially in places like Switzerland where they are trained, people don't go rob liquor stores if they figure someone has a gun. Fear of death is a better detterent than buying them off with the prospect of social security in the future.

          Harvard did a study on this once and came to the same conclusion, that the better armed and trained, the safer the country.
          putting your life in danger is far better than a job in fast food.

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #6
            Originally posted by daruckis
            Originally posted by sgreger1
            Originally posted by lobstershack
            Is it possible that the swiss have a social security system that makes it more appealing to be a contributing member of society than a felon? Just a thought.
            Lol, unlikely. People tend to act stupid even when there is monetary benefit for them to do otherwise. I could be a gangbanger or get a job at mcdonald's, and a lot of people will choose gangbanger.

            This is the same thing in all countries that have a lot of weopons and especially in places like Switzerland where they are trained, people don't go rob liquor stores if they figure someone has a gun. Fear of death is a better detterent than buying them off with the prospect of social security in the future.

            Harvard did a study on this once and came to the same conclusion, that the better armed and trained, the safer the country.
            putting your life in danger is far better than a job in fast food.

            Not gonna lie, having worked many fast food jobs and done some "other" business ventures on the side, I would have to say that anything is better than working fast food.

            What we really need is to fix education, that will affect the crime rate greatly especially in the lower income areas, allowing them to be integrated as functioning members of society.

            Get rid of no child left behind and spend money on schools instead of banks. It will take longer for it to show return on investment but our edcucation system has really fallen to the bottom of the barrel in the last few decades.

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            • truthwolf1
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 2696

              #7
              Yeah Right.

              I wonder how fast the Swiss will be giving up this last stronghold of freedom to the European Unions total gun bans which will be coming down the road soon.
              Yup, here ya go, take them away. All for the good of the EU! Lol

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              • tom502
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 8985

                #8
                New World Order.

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #9
                  Originally posted by truthwolf1
                  Yeah Right.

                  I wonder how fast the Swiss will be giving up this last stronghold of freedom to the European Unions total gun bans which will be coming down the road soon.
                  Yup, here ya go, take them away. All for the good of the EU! Lol

                  You know I noticed that not too many citizens in Europe seem to keen on the idea of the EU. I could see why not, since they basicly don't have a say in who gets elected or appointed to various positions. They want to pull that north american union shit over here too but I doubt they could pull it off. The EU's job is to disarm the people and slowly take away their freedoms, all while establishing a nanny/surveilance state.

                  I would love to live in Switzerland though, from what i've heard, they got it alright over there. They are more socialized than here, but I believe socialism can work if you have the right sized population and the right kind of people. i.e. not Americans. Even with a more socialized system they seem more American than people in my neighborhood.

                  Do we have any members from Switzerland here?

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                  • tom502
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 8985

                    #10
                    Full participatory socialism can work, and work well, but it can't in a welfare state.

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tom502
                      Full participatory socialism can work, and work well, but it can't in a welfare state.

                      Absolutely, that is what I mean. It can work if everyones on board and everyone does their part. The problem with America is we have some people who will settle for nothing less than being CEO's, and some that are fine with just spending their welfare checks on drugs for 4 or 5 generations. Socialism doesn't work good in our climate because the gov will just take from the rich and give to the welfare people untill eventually everyone is brought down to a level of equal mediocraty.

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                      • tom502
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 8985

                        #12

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                        • truthwolf1
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 2696

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sgreger1
                          Originally posted by tom502
                          Full participatory socialism can work, and work well, but it can't in a welfare state.

                          Absolutely, that is what I mean. It can work if everyones on board and everyone does their part. The problem with America is we have some people who will settle for nothing less than being CEO's, and some that are fine with just spending their welfare checks on drugs for 4 or 5 generations. Socialism doesn't work good in our climate because the gov will just take from the rich and give to the welfare people untill eventually everyone is brought down to a level of equal mediocraty.
                          I embarrassed to say this but I know quite a few people who were counting on Obama to increase handouts. It is frustrating because you see them spending time with their children and enjoying the day while it is a daily struggle to punch in and punch out. My wife does not make very good money but is doing it for health insurance mostly. She is just disgusted by fellow employee single mothers who who take advantage of the system. Not that they dont use the system in Europe which I have also seen firsthand but in America it has gone beyond repair. Dont understand how anyone could even fathom adding more handouts to the problem.

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                          • sgreger1
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #14
                            Originally posted by truthwolf1
                            Originally posted by sgreger1
                            Originally posted by tom502
                            Full participatory socialism can work, and work well, but it can't in a welfare state.

                            Absolutely, that is what I mean. It can work if everyones on board and everyone does their part. The problem with America is we have some people who will settle for nothing less than being CEO's, and some that are fine with just spending their welfare checks on drugs for 4 or 5 generations. Socialism doesn't work good in our climate because the gov will just take from the rich and give to the welfare people untill eventually everyone is brought down to a level of equal mediocraty.
                            I embarrassed to say this but I know quite a few people who were counting on Obama to increase handouts. It is frustrating because you see them spending time with their children and enjoying the day while it is a daily struggle to punch in and punch out. My wife does not make very good money but is doing it for health insurance mostly. She is just disgusted by fellow employee single mothers who who take advantage of the system. Not that they dont use the system in Europe which I have also seen firsthand but in America it has gone beyond repair. Dont understand how anyone could even fathom adding more handouts to the problem.


                            Yes I think it's just something inherent to Americans. We have gotten in the habit of using gov as life support when money becomes scarce, and then over 100 years of multiple recessions, you have people who get on the government tit and never ween from it, so they continue to be a drag on the system even during economically prosporous times.

                            In San Francisco where I spend a lot of my time I know quite a few people like this. We also have a family member who does this, they spend money on drugs or new cell phones using their EBT cash card (welfare) and then when this family member got low on money, they asked for a raise in their welfare check because they have to pay rent now, even though this person lives with his mother. He got the raise.

                            So after years of doing drugs, he has become batshit crazy and was declared mentally unstable by some psych facility he went to after being picked up by the police. So now he is legally handicapped, and at least in san fransicko, that means he gets an SSI check as well.


                            It's crazy how much money bleeds out here. Then we have illegal imegrants here in san francisco that somehow manage to also get on welfare, and we have a medicare system (only in San Fran) that allows them to get close to free healthcare as well. And now the legislator of CA has put forward a proposal to have a one payer system in CA at the initial cost of 200$ billion, despite the fact that we are going to run out of money by March 1st, AGAIN, this year.



                            If you have 10 hardworking guys/girls, socialism would be great. If you have 2 hard workers, 4 average workers, and 4 lazy ones who refuse to work, the whole system gets thrown out of whack and it collapses into costant deficit spending and class warfare.

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                            • tom502
                              Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 8985

                              #15
                              It's like you get rewarded for being an F-up, and the honest working people have to give them all a free ride. It's very depressing when you drag yourself everyday to job that is not fulfilling, knowing if you quit, you may not even find another one, and risk losing it all and have to panhandle and live under a bridge. The American dream?

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