Richard Dawkins: I will arrest the Pope

[sgreger1]

This is starting to get epic, now Richard Dawkins is planning to nail the pope (no pun intended) on his trip to Britain and detain him for "crimes against humanity" as well as argue that he does not have diplomatic immunity. They plan to exploit the legal principle used to nick late Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. He was seized on a medical visit there in 1998.

Full article and link below.


What do you all think of this whole scandal with the Catholic Church? It started in the US and now has gone worldwide and all the way up to the Pope. Apparently this touching little boys thing was way more rampant than many assumed. My wife is catholic and insists on still attending church, but does anyone else share my belief that these pedophiles should be shut down permanently?

(Reuters) - British author and atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins will try to have Pope Benedict arrested to face questions over the Catholic church's child abuse scandal when he visits Britain later this year, one of his lawyers said Sunday.

Dawkins and the English journalist Christopher Hitchens have commissioned lawyers Geoffrey Robertson and Mark Stephens to explore ways of taking legal action against the pope.

In an email to Reuters, Stephens said there are three possible approaches: a complaint to the International Criminal Court in the Netherlands, a private or public prosecution "for crimes against humanity" or a civil case.

They will argue that the pope does not have diplomatic immunity from prosecution as a head of state because the Vatican has "permanent observer status" at the United Nations rather than full membership and voting rights.



http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...0100411?rpc=64

[texasmade]

they have naked boys on leashes.

[JPono]

Dawkins didn't actually say that. Here's a quote from his site:

"Needless to say, I did NOT say "I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI" or anything so personally grandiloquent. You have to remember that The Sunday Times is a Murdoch newspaper, and that all newspapers follow the odd custom of entrusting headlines to a sub-editor, not the author of the article itself.

What I DID say to Marc Horne when he telephoned me out of the blue, and I repeat it here, is that I am whole-heartedly behind the initiative by Geoffrey Robertson and Mark Stephens to mount a legal challenge to the Pope's proposed visit to Britain. Beyond that, I declined to comment to Marc Horme, other than to refer him to my 'Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope' article here: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5341 "

Source: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5415

[sgreger1]

Damn Reuters lying again! lol, no but the point is that there is a movement (which he endorses, not that it matters) to nail the pope for sweeping things under the rug. I was wondering if people here felt the pope should get some special protection or if there should be a formal investigation into this, and if they should find the pope guilty, imprison him.

It would be pretty historic, as I can only recall 1 pope stepping down for his actions and that was a loooooooooooong time ago.

[texasmade]

they should make a mob boss pope

[sgreger1]

JPono, I read the link you posted and what he said was way cooler than 'I want the pope arrested". Everyone, for real, read that link.

"This former head of the Inquisition should be arrested the moment he dares to set foot outside his tinpot fiefdom of the Vatican, and he should be tried in an appropriate civil - not ecclesiastical - court."

"No, Pope Ratzinger should not resign. He should remain in charge of the whole rotten edifice - the whole profiteering, woman-fearing, guilt-gorging, truth-hating, child-raping institution - while it tumbles, amid a stench of incense and a rain of tourist-kitsch sacred hearts and preposterously crowned virgins, about his ears. "

[JPono]

It would be pretty historic, as I can only recall 1 pope stepping down for his actions and that was a loooooooooooong time ago.

Oh, I understood your point. Just wanted to clarify since the original article that misquoted Dawkins is still being circulated, rather than the corrected piece.

For what it's worth, I hope everyone involved--including the Pope--is held accountable for their actions.

[Roo]

Great link jpono. I couldn't finish is book from several years ago expounding the virtues of athiesm, "The God Delusion". It was too redundant and actually too academic in it's deconstruction of so many bibilcal passages. Then again, I am not the intended audience for such a book, it was too much preaching to the choir to hold my interest. It is nice to have outspoken athiests though, and academics who are willing to take each small battle to the mat. Catholicism is absurd, but I will stop riiiight there before I go on and offend a bunch of folks. To each their own, and I respect almost all religions (Scientology does not count), save for ultra-radical factions or any other manifestation that calls for harm to others.

[sgreger1]

My wife's catholic and we do attend church. Catholicism itself isn't bad, and Catholics aren't bad, but the record for the Catholic Church as an entity over the past couple of thousand years is awfully spotty lol. From abolition of science, to mass genocide and now to gay priests raping young children en masse, I think like any corporation they need to shut down and rebrand themselves under a different name with some new leadership, I think it’s too far gone at this point. Again, I am talking about the church as an institution, not as Catholics or what they believe as Christians. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but no one is entitled to breaking basic moral barriers (and laws) just because they hide behind a large hat.

[tom502]

Hey now, Scientology has the right to be respected too. Their teachings make more sense to me than Christianity. But yeah, the problem is usually organizations, corruption. After Hubbard died, leadership was usurped, lawyers took over, and the books have been altered. But it seems so many religions have a problem when their founder dies.

[wa3zrm]

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[sgreger1]

Lol, no farking way. He writes a letter to abused children that says "Jesus had a hard time too" and that he turned it into a good thing, so sure my employees raped you, but we humbly ask that you think of yourselves as Jesus and see this as a good thing.
PS: Our bad
Signed: The Pope.

[Roo]

But it seems so many religions have a problem when their founder dies.

Religions are just wacked-out cults until their founder dies lol. I hear you though. Rastafari faced a serious assault on their belief that their savior was eternal when "the elect of God" died a very humble death as the result of a prostate exam gone wrong in 1975. That sounds way worse that it was lol. Apparently due to some kind of lung failure...

[dEFinitionofEPIC]

The Catholic Church is one of the most wicked institutions that has ever been on this planet (not the people... the institution).

If you look deeply into the Catholic Church's history you will find more than enough atrocities to convince you of this...and the Pope is no man of God.

Honestly Catholicism and Christianity are too completely things to me. Much of the Catholic doctrine can't be traced to the Bible at all. I don't know where half of the rituals actually come from... because they certainly don't come from the Bible. If the Catholic Church is Christian then why did it spend so much time and resources killing REAL christians for opposing the doctrine of the Pope? The Catholic Church is just part of the machine... and with it's great influence and wealth I am fairly confident it will play a role in the NWO.

[texasmade]

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/


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