Richard Dawkins: I will arrest the Pope

[sgreger1]

Oh it keeps getting better: Pope's #2 now saying that being homosexual is linked to pedophilia and that the real problem here is gay people. ROFL


SANTIAGO (Reuters) - It is homosexuality, not celibacy, that is linked to pedophilia, the Vatican's Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said on Monday, seeking to defuse the sex scandal that has battered the Roman Catholic Church.



Lol, somehow I feel that this statement will do little to "defuse" the situation.


But then it gets better:

"Many psychologists and psychiatrists have shown that there is no link between celibacy and pedophilia but many others have shown, I have recently been told, that there is a relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia," he told a news conference in Santiago.

"This pathology is one that touches all categories of people, and priests to a lesser degree in percentage terms," he said.


So now he's trying to say "Well touching little boys is common in our society and everyone does it, but priests do it less than others percentage wise".

[Roo]

"This pathology is one that touches all categories of people"

Poor choice of words!

[justintempler]

Being an atheist and ex-Catholic. I love it when they make idiotic statements like this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_520187.html

Bill Donohue: Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal Is Not A Pedophilia Crisis But A Homosexual Crisis

Huffington Post | Nicholas Graham
First Posted: 03-31-10 11:18 AM | Updated: 03-31-10 01:17 PM

Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, has emerged as one of the most vigorous defenders of Pope Benedict XVI, formerly Cardinal Ratzinger, as the Catholic Church reels from revelations that Ratzinger was made aware of a priest who molested more than 200 deaf boys in Wisconsin, and yet declined to punish him.

Donohue's method has been to attack the source of the story, the New York Times, accusing the paper of waging a concerted campaign to discredit the Vatican's authority.

Perhaps Donohue's most controversial claim is that this is not a pedophilia crisis but a homosexual crisis; since most victims of molestation were "post-pubescent"," that means the priests were not child molesters but some kind of gay predators. Donohue wrote in a full page ad in the New York Times:

The Times continues to editorialize about the "pedophilia crisis,: when all along it's been a homosexual crisis. Eighty percent of the victims of priestly sexual abuse are male and most of them are post-pubescent. While homosexuality does not cause predatory behavior, and most gay priests are not molesters, most of the molesters have been gay.
It's unclear where Donohue is getting his statistics, but this is sure to increase the belief among critics that the church is more interested in protecting its own interests and reputation than innocent children. In a heart-wrenching Times follow-up story, it was revealed that the deaf boys tried for decades to report the sexually abusive priest, but no one would listen.

Maybe it'll wake some people up.

[Roo]

it was revealed that the deaf boys tried for decades to report the sexually abusive priest, but no one would listen.

LOL another poor choice!

[sgreger1]

it was revealed that the deaf boys tried for decades to report the sexually abusive priest, but no one would listen.

LOL another poor choice!

LOLOL, oh man Roo, it's little things like this that get me through the day.

[Owens187]

I'm damn sure not a pedophile. I'm damn sure not homosexual.

And I AM Catholic.

Anyone that does'nt like it can fu*king blow me.

You guys label us all as pedophiles, homosexuals, etc etc. It just aint true. A few peoples actions don't speak for or describe us all. You have no fu*king right to lump us all together, and call to "burn" us all down, "destroy" us all, etc etc.

I'm sure I can damn sure dig up scandal or find problems with every single one of you're religions. Thinking your religion is perfect because there is nothing in the news recently is bullshit. Look at all the religious whackjobs that have been in the news raping, killing, culting, etc in the last 100 years. Most of them were something other than Catholic, yet I dont hear you talking shit about those religions.

/just sayin

[tom502]

I agree with Owens. But the Catholic Church is so big, it is an easy and big target.

[justintempler]

"And I say to thee. thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
Matthew 16:18

You can't go pointing your finger at the other religions when you claim to be a member of the one true church that was established by Jesus himself.

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[Owens187]

You can't go pointing your finger at the other religions when you claim to be a member of the one true church that was established by Jesus himself.

Was that directed at me? Because I was not pointing my finger at anyone, just pointing out that no religion is perfect. Pointing out that us Catholics should not ALL be judged by the actions of others.

I actually could give a damn about the "organized" church in itself, I dont need to have somebody else interpret books and teachings that I can read, and interpret for myself.

As you said, I am a member of the one true church that was established by Jesus himself. And The Pope may be the leader of my "church", but is not the leader of my "faith". Christ Himself is the only true "leader" of my personal "faith", not man. Does that make sense?

And I do not "claim" to be Catholic, I am 100% baptised Catholic, and damn proud of it.


And I am not here at SnusOn for sunday school lessons, so this is the last post from me in these matters.

[sgreger1]

I don't think anyone has beef with Catholics as a people. Like I said, i go to a catholic church. I was directing the "hate" towards the child molesters and people who covered it up, who happen to be running the church right now. They bring a bad name to Catholics and the Catholics should be protesting them en masse. Just like I would expect muslims to condemn any acts of terror committed in the name of islam, I would expect catholics to protest their leaders who are molesting their children.


Again, no beef towards catholics as a people, only with the established church leadership (and even then, only the ones who are involved with these crimes), who like Owens said, are merely men and nothing more.