Tobacco nazi perpetrator alert: If you smoke, your fired!

[bsd777]

Aren't Statists wonderful. The FL "Supreme" court ruled employers can discriminate against tobacco users based on the logic that the tobacco user might cost the employer more in medical/insurance costs. And yes, using this same logic, it would seem a natural extension that they should also be allowed to regulate weight, diet and mandate exercise. This is what happens when liberals/statist appoint justices. When Democrats controlled the house in FL, they passed a mandatory helmet law for motorcicists. You guessed it, because "the people" might have to pay the medical bills. Now that we have goverment controlled and taxpayer funded national medical coverage, I wonder how long before someone proposses a national helmet law? BTW - when Republicans gained control of the FL house, they recinded the helmet requirement for anyone with a minimal amount of personal injury insurance. Before this I turn this thread into a flam the conservative, I need to say that I know Republicans are not blameless. They have all too often helped move us in the same direction, just to a smaller degree. Liberals light, if you will. All you young kids out there, need to try to deprogram from the constant message you've received your entire life from mainstream sources. These people are not your friends. Vote for freedom. Vote conservative!

[texasmade]

Vote for freedom. Vote Ron Paul!

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[Fury]

Aren't Statists wonderful. The FL "Supreme" court ruled employers can discriminate against tobacco users based on the logic that the tobacco user might cost the employer more in medical/insurance costs. And yes, using this same logic, it would seem a natural extension that they should also be allowed to regulate weight, diet and mandate exercise. This is what happens when liberals/statist appoint justices. When Democrats controlled the house in FL, they passed a mandatory helmet law for motorcicists. You guessed it, because "the people" might have to pay the medical bills. Now that we have goverment controlled and taxpayer funded national medical coverage, I wonder how long before someone proposses a national helmet law? BTW - when Republicans gained control of the FL house, they recinded the helmet requirement for anyone with a minimal amount of personal injury insurance. Before this I turn this thread into a flam the conservative, I need to say that I know Republicans are not blameless. They have all too often helped move us in the same direction, just to a smaller degree. Liberals light, if you will. All you young kids out there, need to try to deprogram from the constant message you've received your entire life from mainstream sources. These people are not your friends. Vote for freedom. Vote conservative!

Their logic is flawed, big time. What about the person that goes home every day of the week and gets shitfaced drunk? Don't they think that has any negative health effects? After 10 years of that their liver is doing backfilps. But no, can't touch the alchy, people would riot.

As I have said before... It's time to push the reset button. :evil:

[bsd777]

Their logic is flawed, big time. What about the person that goes home every day of the week and gets shitfaced drunk? Don't they think that has any negative health effects? After 10 years of that their liver is doing backfilps. But no, can't touch the alchy, people would riot.

As I have said before... It's time to push the reset button. :evil:

Exactly. Where does it end!?

[Mordred]

Aren't Statists wonderful. The FL "Supreme" court ruled employers can discriminate against tobacco users based on the logic that the tobacco user might cost the employer more in medical/insurance costs. And yes, using this same logic, it would seem a natural extension that they should also be allowed to regulate weight, diet and mandate exercise. This is what happens when liberals/statist appoint justices. When Democrats controlled the house in FL, they passed a mandatory helmet law for motorcicists. You guessed it, because "the people" might have to pay the medical bills.

And that's the main problem.

See, I don't care if you wear a helmet or not. If you crash and have insurance, well, the insurance pays your bills and that's that. If you have no insurance, then you pay your own medical bills. If you can't, the state seizes whatever property you have and sells it to pay for the bills. And if you have nothing at all, well, nobody pays your bills and you die.

Same deal with your job. Why should the employer have to pay for your healthcare? They give you a salary for your work. What you do with it is up to you. If you want to spend it on insurance, you do. If you'd rather spend it on hookers, well good for you. But same as with the helmet, if something goes wrong YOU have to suffer the consequences.

[truthwolf1]

Aren't Statists wonderful. The FL "Supreme" court ruled employers can discriminate against tobacco users based on the logic that the tobacco user might cost the employer more in medical/insurance costs. And yes, using this same logic, it would seem a natural extension that they should also be allowed to regulate weight, diet and mandate exercise. This is what happens when liberals/statist appoint justices. When Democrats controlled the house in FL, they passed a mandatory helmet law for motorcicists. You guessed it, because "the people" might have to pay the medical bills.

And that's the main problem.

See, I don't care if you wear a helmet or not. If you crash and have insurance, well, the insurance pays your bills and that's that. If you have no insurance, then you pay your own medical bills. If you can't, the state seizes whatever property you have and sells it to pay for the bills. And if you have nothing at all, well, nobody pays your bills and you die.

Same deal with your job. Why should the employer have to pay for your healthcare? They give you a salary for your work. What you do with it is up to you. If you want to spend it on insurance, you do. If you'd rather spend it on hookers, well good for you. But same as with the helmet, if something goes wrong YOU have to suffer the consequences.

Your employer is paying part of the coverage and you are responsible for the rest. Years ago like in our parents time it was a much better deal but today with higher and higher premiums and over the top health care charges it has become a scam. Having a authority like the government to come in sounds really good but when all they are really doing is taking over the scam and forcing everyone into it could be a disaster. With that kind of power and this being the new America 2 there is nothing they could not enforce in absolute control over your body.

[truthwolf1]

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[Bigblue1]

^^^^^^^That was priceless^^^^^^^^^^ Doug FTW

[sgreger1]

it has become a scam. Having a authority like the government to come in sounds really good but when all they are really doing is taking over the scam

Exactly, it's like the mob coming in during prohibition and saying they are going to do "alcohol policy reform".

You are so amazing correct, it has become a scam, and the politicians are saying they will fix it, when in fact they are just coming in an taking over the scam so they can get their political cut.


In other news, did anyone watch the UK's three way debate last night? I liked how they did it, talking shit about each other etc. I like their style of doing it better than ours. Ours is just two people telling you they are both going to do the same thing no matter who you chose, so deal with it, they just use prettier words.