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[truthwolf1]

Students sent home by Hispanic/American principal for wearing Red, White and Blue on Mexican holiday.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/local-15749667/19585803

[tom502]

A handful of California students got an unexpected lesson at their high school this week: Don't wear your stars and stripes on Cinco de Mayo.

Five Morgan Hill, California students were asked to take off their American flag bandannas and turn their T-shirts inside out after students complained, according to NBC news in San Francisco.

Many members of Live Oak High School's large Mexican-American student population that felt it was offensive for the students to wear the American flag on a day that's supposed to celebrate Mexican heritage.

When the boys refused to take off their flag t-shirts and bandannas, they were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Live Oak student Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

The alleged concern was that the T-shirts would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," said Dominic Maciel.

The chastised teens' parents were furious.

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

Morgan Hill Unified School District released a statement saying it does not agree with how Live Oak High School administrators handled this incident and that the boys would not be suspended.

But some students believe they are owed an apology.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican heritage day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, told NBC. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

[sgreger1]

Yah, it's not racist to send children home for wearing american flags at a school in america. No not at all, because of course it was mexicos holiday and therefore the whole country must comply.


And over in Ann Arbor they are having segregated field trips, where the sole deciding factor in which students get to participate was RACE. Only black children were allowed on the field trips as part of an effort to "close the achievment gap between black and white students".

Sending kids home for wearing american flag insignia? Telling them to turn their shirts inside out because the American flag offends Mexican's? Segregated field trips that only blacks can go on?


WTF IS GOING ON. Class envy and race wars are going to be the next problem in this country. Unless you listen to congressmen, who just released that "the tea party is the largest threat to national security today" EVEN AS 2 TERRORISTS MANAGE TO PLACE BOMBS AND GET ON AN AIRPLANE IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.

Racism against whites is now tolerable in our society. Like someone said here on Snuson, it's okay for them to be racist because in the past they were discriminated against, so that gives them a license to discriminate against white people. That's how these people think.

[tom502]

And Cinco De Maya is not even an official Mexican holiday.

Yes, America is a racist nation, that's why the census form was basically approved racial profiling, but it's racism is against European Americans, not the so-called minorities.

[timholian]

A handful of California students got an unexpected lesson at their high school this week: Don't wear your stars and stripes on Cinco de Mayo.

Five Morgan Hill, California students were asked to take off their American flag bandannas and turn their T-shirts inside out after students complained, according to NBC news in San Francisco.

Many members of Live Oak High School's large Mexican-American student population that felt it was offensive for the students to wear the American flag on a day that's supposed to celebrate Mexican heritage.

When the boys refused to take off their flag t-shirts and bandannas, they were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Live Oak student Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

The alleged concern was that the T-shirts would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," said Dominic Maciel.

The chastised teens' parents were furious.

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

Morgan Hill Unified School District released a statement saying it does not agree with how Live Oak High School administrators handled this incident and that the boys would not be suspended.

But some students believe they are owed an apology.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican heritage day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, told NBC. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

WEAK... total set up from the beginning. These guys wanted a reaction and thats what they got. I did the same thing in high school by sporting the confederate flag on my history book cover. The other Fail here is that the school over reacted and fell into the trap set for them.
This isn't new or news, this is a whole group of fail on all sides.
{Source} LMAO

[sgreger1]

And Cinco De Maya is not even an official Mexican holiday.

Yes, America is a racist nation, that's why the census form was basically approved racial profiling, but it's racism is against European Americans, not the so-called minorities.

WARNING: THIS SHIRT IS RACIST. MEXICANS DON'T DESERVE THE KIND OF DISRESPECT THAT IS PORTRAYED ON THIS SHIRT.

[timholian]

Seems some of you fell into the same trap.

[sgreger1]

WEAK... total set up from the beginning. These guys wanted a reaction and thats what they got. I did the same thing in high school by sporting the confederate flag on my history book cover. The other Fail here is that the school over reacted and fell into the trap set for them.
This isn't new or news, this is a whole group of fail on all sides.
{Source} LMAO

I'm sure the students wore these specific shirts for a reason, quite obviousely. What is upsetting is that the school told them that it was offensive to mexicans and that because it was a mexican holiday they were not allowed to portray an American flag due to it's offensive nature. They were told to turn their shirts inside out so the devisive flag image could not be seen.


You tell me who failed in this situation....

Is there any rule, law, or school policy even that states it is at any time illegal or against regulation to wear american flag insignia IN THE UNITED STATES.



If this were a white principal who told black kids to remove their Martin Luther King shirts because it may offend the white kids, this would be a big national news item and there would be protests here in Santa Cruz already.

[tom502]

The FAIL is the school allowing for the ethno based parading of Cinco De Mayo. American kids in an American school should never be banned from wearing their American flag shirts. If anything should be banned, it would be Mexican flag, and clothes and make-up depicting it, as that is what will cause disvison, and racial agitation, because this is not Mexico(yet).

[timholian]

I'm sure the students wore these specific shirts for a reason, quite obviousely. What is upsetting is that the school told them that it was offensive to mexicans and that because it was a mexican holiday they were not allowed to portray an American flag due to it's offensive nature. They were told to turn their shirts inside out so the devisive flag image could not be seen.

You tell me who failed in this situation....


Is there any rule, law, or school policy even that states it is at any time illegal or against regulation to wear american flag insignia IN THE UNITED STATES.

DUDE for real? Who failed? They all did. ALL.
The point here is not the American flag, nor is it about the right to wear the American flag, it about using a symbol as a means to invoke a reaction. If anything most people should be offended that someone would use this BELOVED symbol as a weapon in an institution of learning.
Having said that, I agree that the school over reacted as stated in my first response. In my opinion they should have let it stand and deal with any repercussions as they came instead of taking "preemptive" measures. These people are supposed to have had some kind of child psychology course among the many it took to become an educator.
The parents of these teens failed because they fail in talking and explaining about the reactions they may encounter and acting innocent when asked about their child's predicament.

Is it wrong to have a freedom of speech.... HELL NO
Is it okay to use beloved symbols as a means to evoke.... Sure, but you have to take responsibility for the speech you are free to have.
Was the school wrong.... In the big free speech picture YES.. In the "this is disrupting the school day"... debatable That handbook they have you sign says YES it is okay to stop you if youre creating a disturbance. You signed it.... Your problem.

Should these boys care if they hurt someones lil' ol' feelings? Nope, but they have to take responsibility.

Like I said.... FAIL ALL THE WAY AROUND.

EDIT: Dude I was one of these guys in high school.... We can smell our own. LMAO

[Darwin]

There is in fact a federal Flag Code which has a number of recommendations on the proper and improper display of flags and flag insignia but there are no criminal penalties for violating this code. Most state efforts to ban flag burning, flag apparel, and the like have been struck down by the Supreme Court and while there are a few areas of the country which ban using the flag for commercial purposes there is no federal ban on this, merely a recommendation. The legal consensus is that considering past Supreme Court decisions that state laws banning the use of the flag motif in clothing would be struck down on clear constitutional grounds if challenged. There are however statutes that prevent banning flying the flag in most circumstances. Dress codes in public schools are a big gray area since any such code is by definition arbitrary but egregious examples such as the request not to wear the flag on Cinco de Mayo would probably result in a strong legal rebuke if someone wanted to go to the trouble of making a "federal case" out of it.

[danielan]

EVEN AS 2 TERRORISTS MANAGE TO PLACE BOMBS AND GET ON AN AIRPLANE IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS.

3 wasn't it - there was the pissed off guy in Texas - I think he counts.

[sgreger1]

DUDE for real? Who failed? They all did. ALL.
The point here is not the American flag, nor is it about the right to wear the American flag, it about using a symbol as a means to invoke a reaction. If anything most people should be offended that someone would use this BELOVED symbol as a weapon in an institution of learning.
Having said that, I agree that the school over reacted as stated in my first response. In my opinion they should have let it stand and deal with any repercussions as they came instead of taking "preemptive" measures. These people are supposed to have had some kind of child psychology course among the many it took to become an educator.
The parents of these teens failed because they fail in talking and explaining about the reactions they may encounter and acting innocent when asked about their child's predicament.

Is it wrong to have a freedom of speech.... HELL NO
Is it okay to use beloved symbols as a means to evoke.... Sure, but you have to take responsibility for the speech you are free to have.
Was the school wrong.... In the big free speech picture YES.. In the "this is disrupting the school day"... debatable That handbook they have you sign says YES it is okay to stop you if youre creating a disturbance. You signed it.... Your problem.

Should these boys care if they hurt someones lil' ol' feelings? Nope, but they have to take responsibility.

Like I said.... FAIL ALL THE WAY AROUND.

EDIT: Dude I was one of these guys in high school.... We can smell our own. LMAO

Sorry bro I gotta completely disagree with you 100% on this. Are you saying that if a kid were to wear an american flag, that the mexicans would revolt against them or cause disturbances because they are in some way offended by another individual wearing the flag of the country you are in? That these kids should have been afraid and not worn an american flag because of fear of reprocussions from mexicans that would act violently against them for portraying the flag?

Tell me again how the kids "failed" for wearing the t-shirts? Were they showing their national pride at a time when the focus should be on that of another culture? Yes. Do the mexicans ROUTINELY do that, and protest waving signs of Mexican flags? Yes. So why do the white kids get in trouble but no one else ever does?


I know "you did this in school too", as I did also. There was a big case in my high school about this that was even on the local news.

I recall in my old city of Maywood, a sanctuary city that boast 97% latino population, when:
They took down the American flag at the local post office, threw it on the ground and stomped on it, and then hoisted the Mexican flag in its place.

But surely, wearing an American flag is a fail, and children should be sent home for it because the mexicans may cause violence due to their opposition to the American flag, according to your logic.

[tom502]

This crap wouldn't happen in the DPRK.

[sgreger1]

but egregious examples such as the request not to wear the flag on Cinco de Mayo would probably result in a strong legal rebuke if someone wanted to go to the trouble of making a "federal case" out of it.

The supreme court would have to rule that on certain ethnic holidays days it is illegal to wear or in any way brandish or posses on your person any American flag insignia. That would never happen.