Noah's Ark found (yet again)

**tom502** · 27-04-10, 09:02 PM

I think it's possible. There is an ancient story of a great deluge that exists among many groups on the Earth. So, I don't know, or tend to think, it really killed everyone, or engulfed the planet, it may have been something really big.

Tonight is a new episode of Ancient Aliens.

**sgreger1** · 27-04-10, 09:20 PM

There are over 300 versions of flood stories from nearly every part of the world. They are so similar in their content that it is believed they all came from one central story (likely the bible). It could be a case of mass hysteria, or perhaps there was a flood in one region that led the people to believe that it was a worldwide flood. But if there was a flood that lasted for some time and engulfed the whole planet, there would be significant evidence, yet no such evidence exists. Even if one overlooks the logistics of getting two animals from every continent on earth into one boat for an extended period of time, the question still remains what did they eat once they arrived? With only 2 of each animal and no plants, anything that survived would die off in a week. As soon as they were let off the boat, the predators would have feasted on their chosen pray and after that first meal there would no longer be a male and female of each type, so nothing would reproduce.

If anything, the flood was likely specific to a small region and the writers believed it was a worldwide catastrophe, or it was made up all together like so many other stories in the bible.

**justintempler** · 27-04-10, 09:49 PM

It's a lot easier to sell Christianity to 1,500,000,000 Chinese people if you've got relics to show them.

http://www.thenoahark.com/noahsarksearch/eng/

Mr. Gerrit Aalten, renowned Dutch Ark researcher said, “The significance of this find is that for the first time in history the discovery of Noah’s Ark is well documented and revealed to the worldwide community.” With more than 30 years experience in collecting information, Mr. Aalten believes that detailed eyewitness accounts made the Ark puzzle complete because they all together mentioned the same significant details that exactly match this astonishing find on the mountain. He continued, “Just a few of the many details that are matching this find: …the height it’s found on, which is above “the 4000 meters level”; another detail is, the way the Ark is situated on the mountain which is: “slightly tilted”; …that it has a ” reddish/brown wood appearance”, …the end of the Ark “is decayed and broken and has a hole” through which one can enter; …it is most partly “embedded in the ice and rock debris”;…and that the Ark is “very solid and of high quality”; …and ”very dark, long and rectangular”. In conclusion, Mr. Aalten said , “there’s a tremendous amount of solid evidence that the structure found on Mount Ararat in Eastern Turkey, is the legendary Ark of Noah.”

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**danielan** · 27-04-10, 10:48 PM

So, let me get this straight...

There was a 13,000 foot flood?

Is there that much water on Earth? Did someone fill in the Pacific for a bit or something?

I don't have a problem with the idea that there was a flood, but 13,000 feet of water seems excessive.

**texasmade** · 27-04-10, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by sgreger1

They are so similar in their content that it is believed they all came from one central story (likely the bible).

ActuallyThe first ever flood story was in the Epic of Gilgamesh. the bible got it from there

**JBean** · 27-04-10, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by danielan

So, let me get this straight...

There was a 13,000 foot flood?

Is there that much water on Earth? Did someone fill in the Pacific for a bit or something?

I don't have a problem with the idea that there was a flood, but 13,000 feet of water seems excessive.

Supposedly (and this is according to Christianity, I believe) there were 40 days and nights of rain causing the flood. I don't recall how many feet it was though.

**Bigblue1** · 27-04-10, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by JBean

Originally posted by danielan

So, let me get this straight...

There was a 13,000 foot flood?

Is there that much water on Earth? Did someone fill in the Pacific for a bit or something?

I don't have a problem with the idea that there was a flood, but 13,000 feet of water seems excessive.

Supposedly (and this is according to Christianity, I believe) there were 40 days and nights of rain causing the flood. I don't recall how many feet it was though.

Yeah, but we live in a closed system. All our rain comes from water evaporated into the atmosphere from existing water. So to get that kind of deluge all or most of the water on earth would have had to have dried up at some point. Let's face it, it's a story made up when the powers that be never thought of science. When science started to be, those powers than did their damndest to stop it. I mean history is history. Science is science. That's all.

**sgreger1** · 27-04-10, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Bigblue1

Let's face it, it's a story made up when the powers that be never thought of science. When science started to be, those powers than did their damndest to stop it. I mean history is history. Science is science. That's all.

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**JBean** · 27-04-10, 11:19 PM

^ fair enough

Originally posted by Bigblue1

Yeah, but we live in a closed system. All our rain comes from water evaporated into the atmosphere from existing water. So to get that kind of deluge all or most of the water on earth would have had to have dried up at some point. Let's face it, it's a story made up when the powers that be never thought of science. When science started to be, those powers than did their damndest to stop it. I mean history is history. Science is science. That's all.

just wanted to say though, that I wasn't defending the story as if it's true; just that thats what supposedly happened. I'm agnostic, so discussing religion with me is always "supposedly", "apparently", and "according to so and so.."

*editted for talking in circles that made no sense*

**texasmade** · 27-04-10, 11:37 PM

heh some fundies say that the grand canyon is proof of a worldwide flood

**sgreger1** · 27-04-10, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by texasmade

heh some fundies say that the grand canyon is proof of a worldwide flood

Rofl. God I don't even know where to begin with that one. I mean, these people have no basis of logic. Even if they look up and see that the sky is blue, if the bible says in some obscure passage somewhere that the sky is red, they will believe in their heart of hearts that the sky is really red.

**texasmade** · 27-04-10, 11:45 PM

i'm more inclined to listen to a preterist than a fundie

they believe that either all or a majority of Bible prophecy was fulfilled by 70 A.D.

yea wiki isnt the best for everything but it puts somethings into perspective

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

**sgreger1** · 27-04-10, 11:47 PM

I would be more likely to listen to Peterisms (from Peter Griffen) before I listened to any of them.

**f. bandersnatch** · 27-04-10, 11:53 PM

Dudes- I do not want to involve myself in this religious discussion too extensively, but I must (due to my anal retentiveness and otherwise pointless college education) point out that "forty" in the context of biblical text does not actually mean forty as we think of it (four tens/one times four, etc).
From the OED: "Used indefinitely to express a large number." The story of the flood in the bible only means to convey that it rained for a really long time, not that it actually rained for forty days. You also must remember that in any ancient story the concept of the whole world is far and away removed from our contemporary concept of planet earth.

Noah's Ark found (yet again)

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