Why Does Shahzad Hate Us?

[tom502]

I heard he was mad about Obamacare.

[truthwolf1]

Military Industrial Complex Mind Control Patsy, with a little help from Mossad and High levels of CIA, M15.
MKULTRA mind control programs usually for these normal people that suddenly go off the wall.

There will be many more of these smaller one's but then a big one like 911, Oklahoma City or a Kids school to sell the mainstream news watchers.

Continual war with somebody is the goal for good profits and better off in the far east because Isreal can continue it's apartheid and not have to worry about any threats like Iran.

[sgreger1]

I heard he was mad about Obamacare.

He was pissed at Bush. Bloomberg hinted that maybe it was some white guy pissed at obamacare but it turned otu to be a muslim terrorist who was against Bush.


@Truthwolf: Wow, that was a mouthfull lol. Exactly what is everyones problem with Iseal? My family goes there every so often and I don't see what the big deal is. They are just enforcing their borders and trying to protect their little piece of the pie, meanwhile the palestinians and Iran are constantly threatening to wipe them off the map. Exactly what is everyone's beef with them anyways?

[AllanH]

My guess is that Jamestown Institute is behind this. They love the right kind of terrorists, maybe this guy was meant for other kind of jihad missions?

[sgreger1]

My guess is that Jamestown Institute is behind this. They love the right kind of terrorists, maybe this guy was meant for other kind of jihad missions?

What would a conservative think tank stand to gain by bombing New York?

[texasmade]

What would a conservative think tank stand to gain by bombing New York?

bail out money?

[sgreger1]

bail out money?

How would a bombing in new york of such small size afford any bailout money to any big businesses? It was a small bomb.

Furthermore, if it's bailout money they were looking for, than wouldn't a left wing thinktank have more motiv here, since the current administration is democrat and would be the one deciding whether money was given? And also since the democrats seem to love bailout money?

[texasmade]

How would a bombing in new york of such small size afford any bailout money to any big businesses? It was a small bomb.

Furthermore, if it's bailout money they were looking for, than wouldn't a left wing thinktank have more motiv here, since the current administration is democrat and would be the one deciding whether money was given? And also since the democrats seem to love bailout money?

doh...misread it. i saw "need " not "stand" for some reason

:/

[truthwolf1]

@Truthwolf: Wow, that was a mouthfull lol. Exactly what is everyones problem with Iseal? My family goes there every so often and I don't see what the big deal is. They are just enforcing their borders and trying to protect their little piece of the pie, meanwhile the palestinians and Iran are constantly threatening to wipe them off the map. Exactly what is everyone's beef with them anyways?[/QUOTE]

In all honesty I just erased my views on Isreal because they are a very powerful force and I dont want to be mistaken as a threat. There is enough info out there to make your own conclusion.

[sgreger1]

@Truthwolf: Wow, that was a mouthfull lol. Exactly what is everyones problem with Iseal? My family goes there every so often and I don't see what the big deal is. They are just enforcing their borders and trying to protect their little piece of the pie, meanwhile the palestinians and Iran are constantly threatening to wipe them off the map. Exactly what is everyone's beef with them anyways?

In all honesty I just erased my views on Isreal because they are a very powerful force and I dont want to be mistaken as a threat. There is enough info out there to make your own conclusion.[/QUOTE]


I mean i've tried to google it but I don't seem to see it. Obviousely theres a whole group out there that has beef with them but I never heard what their complaints were. Is it that jews run the banks? When i googled it I found a bunch of stuff trying to claim they were mass killing pelstinians or something but had nothing to back it up.

Can you give me a google phrase that would point me in the right direction



EDIT: Wait I just went and reread this part: " I just erased my views on Isreal because they are a very powerful force and I dont want to be mistaken as a threat"

Do you mean they might piss someone off or that Mosad might come snatch you up in the middle of the night? You don't need to worry about the later because anti-israel stuff is all over the internet.

My only question about the "jews run the world" theory is that if they really have that much power and run the world secretly, than why are they on this tiny plot of land always trying to stop people from attacking them? I mean if they had that much influence, than i doubt they'd be where they are.

[AllanH]

What would a conservative think tank stand to gain by bombing New York?

Maybe their jihad guy just didn't realize the difference between Moscow and New York, I mean both are full of christians and jews you know! And what they, Jamestown Institute, stand for is money.

[tom502]

Well, one major gripe with Israel, is it's an artifical "state" that was planted there in Palestine without their agreement, created by the UN after the "Holocaust". And they see Israel as an occupation, and wonder why, if Germany did the holocaust, why the Palestinians have to pay for it.

And while Israel may be a "small" country, the Zionist movement is worldwide, and has an enormous influence in the USA.

[truthwolf1]

They dont run the world but they sure do have a say in it. It is just hard to write about them when some pro- Zionist might hack your computer or you end up sounding like a complete David Duke.

If there is one big beef it is that they came out on top after WW2 and rewrote and supressed history in their favor. You will never see movies about the deportations of Eastern Europeans to the Communist gulags or the predominantly Jewish Cheka death squads who raped and mudered millions of people. Whenever those countries tried to bring to trial some ex murdering Communist leader the Jews came out in full force with the "we were fighting the Nazis good over evil speech". Although the Holocaust event is real, I also believe a lot has been exaggerated about it. The industry itself has became a corporate money making machine of all sorts and they own the rights to suffering.
Sending people to jail for going back and doing modern day CSI testing on the grounds is also troubling to me. What do they not want people to know? Why cannot anyone investigate?

They won and it is maybe a natural right to be pompous and victorious but most people have never heard the other side of the story. I am American with a eastern european ancestry so I heard all the stories from the other side. One of the best was a relative who took out 5 Chekas with a big ax before being tore up with bullets. I am sure there were plenty of exaggerated stories from my families side also.

[tom502]

Well, of all the world events, the holocaust is the main one, in which it's forbidden to have open debate about. You simply can't discuss it, unless you just parrot what you have been told officially, and in some countries to do so, will have you locked up. One cannot even do a scientific research, because one must 100% accept without question the official story, or you are defacto a "denier", and can be arrested and shunned. They say 6 mill, but if you said, hmm maybe 3 mill, well, you are a denier, and can be sent to prison in Germany. It does lead to the idea that truth is being supressed, "lawfully". It even has similar ideas with the false flag approach. But it's obviously been politicized and (mis)used, to empower and give influence on many things. It's such a verboten topic, even though I have my personal ideas, I feel, of all other topics, this is the ONE that simply cannot be addressed.

911, OK, Moon hoax, OK, but that certain event, no.

[sgreger1]

I hear what you guys are saying, and theres a lot of dispute about why israel got it's own nation etc etc. The reason the jews get so much attention is because the holocaust was so out of place as far as history is concerned, the evils that were commited in the concentration camps were so intense that most American's didn't even believe that it was happening. WWII was a big propaganda war on every side, and a lot of PR got put into the war machine at the time. Naturally, the liberation of the jews from the holocaust is something everyone likes to brag about, and that's why it is dominant in all history books (except Iran). Now to deny the holocaust happened is outright silly and without evidence, and those who say it was 3 million instead of 6, or 10 million instead of six, really at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, because even 1 million people being burnt alive or worked to their death (just because of their race) is something that belongs in the history books.

Now have there been other similar attrocities? Absolutely, gulags were not invented by the nazis and many other less publicized mass genocides have happened, that is not israels fault. The major countries are not as heavily invested in the PR side of these other conflicts. Everyone wanted to brag about liberating the jews from the attrocities of the evil germany, and so they got the most attention. Is it wrong? Yes. Is that the jews fault? No it's not.


Jews routinely get shafted and even with missiles being lobbed onto their borders very often, people still will focus ONLY on when Israel does something hostile in retrun (in self defense). It's not their bad the the major countries don't care about other attrocities, imo.


On the subject of not being able to discuss it or openly deny the holocaust in Europe, well, I don't know how they roll in Europe, but in America we have free speech. I can say Mohamad and Jesus had a gay orgy with hitler and the jews served cocktails and no one can do shit about it. That's, again, what I talk about when I reference "our slow decline into europe", as this freedom of speech will someday change. It's already illegal for me to say bad things about gay people because they are a "protected" group now, so wouldn't surprise me if the jews were next.
(Also, if the jews have so much controll of the US, why is it not illegal here to deny the holocaust?)