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  • truthwolf1
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    • Oct 2008
    • 2696

    #46
    All these guys are just personalities for the writers in the background.
    A majority of the material is re-hearsed and not theirs. They will ramble some personal views while not looking at the teleprompter but next time you watch just follow the eye's and voice and you will see.

    Even if they are in a group sitting across from eachother. I caught that one wathcing the Fox Beltway Boys one night.

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    • wadetheblade
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      • Jul 2009
      • 572

      #47
      Glen Beck sucks! Beck Hansen Rules!

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      • truthwolf1
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        • Oct 2008
        • 2696

        #48
        Originally posted by wadetheblade View Post
        Glen Beck sucks! Beck Hansen Rules!
        Other then the Scientology brainwash, I do agree!

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        • tom502
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          • Feb 2009
          • 8985

          #49
          Whos is Beck Hansen? I have a soft spot for Scientology.

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          • wadetheblade
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            • Jul 2009
            • 572

            #50
            It sort of bothers me too that Beck is a scientologist.

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            • sgreger1
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              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #51
              Operation Snow White:Some time during the 1970s, the Church of Scientology decided that they'd had enough.Apparently, the Church of Scientology managed to perform the largest infiltration of the United States government in history. Ever.5,000 of Scientology's crack commandos wiretapped and burglarized various agencies. They stole hundreds of documents, mainly from the IRS. No critic was spared, and in the end, 136 organizations, agencies and foreign embassies were infiltrated.
              As early as 1960, L. Ron Hubbard had proposed that Scientologists should infiltrate government departments by taking secretarial, bodyguard or other jobs. In the early 1970s, the Church of Scientology was increasingly scrutinized by US federal agencies, having already been raided by the Food and Drug Administration in 1963. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed it owed millions of dollars in taxes and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) sent agents into the organization. The Church's response involved a publicity campaign, extensive litigation against the IRS and a program of infiltration of agency offices.
              The specific branch of Scientology responsible for Operation Snow White was the Guardian's Office. Created in 1966 by L. Ron Hubbard himself, the Guardian's Office's purpose was to protect the interests of Scientology. At the time of Operation Snow White, the Guardian's Office had worldwide headquarters (Guardian’s Office WW) located at Saint Hill Manor in England. Headquarters in the United States (Guardian’s Office US) were in Los Angeles, California. A smaller office also existed in Washington, D.C. (Guardian’s Office DC) and other cities throughout the United States. Each of the Guardian Offices had five bureaus including the Information Bureau which oversaw the infiltration of the government. L. Ron Hubbard oversaw the Guardian's Office, though it was Mary Sue Hubbard, his wife, who held the title Commodore Staff Guardian.
              Several years later, in 1973, the Guardian's Office began a massive infiltration of governments around the world, though the primary target of the operation was the United States. Worried about Scientology’s long term reputation, the Guardian’s Office decided to infiltrate Interpol in order to obtain documents relating to Scientology, as well as those connecting L. Ron Hubbard to criminal activity. This duty was handed by Jane Kember to Henning Heldt and his staff.
              Around this time L. Ron Hubbard himself wrote Guardian Order 732, which called for the removal and correction of “erroneous” Scientology files. It is here that Operation Snow White has its origins. Though the order called for this to be achieved by legal means, this would quickly change. Hubbard himself would later be named by federal prosecutors as an "unindicted co-conspirator" for his part in the operation. Though extensive records of his involvement exist, many Scientologists claim his directives were misinterpreted by his followers.
              Operation Snow White would be further refined by Guardian Order 1361. Addressed from Jane Kember to Heldt, Duke Snider, and Richard Weigand, GO 1361 called for, amongst other things, an infiltration of the Los Angeles and London offices of the IRS, and the Department of Justice.
              While the order was specific to the IRS, the Guardian’s Office was soon recruiting their own field agents to infiltrate other governmental offices, including the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the U.S. Coast Guard intelligence service, and the National Institute of Mental Health, among others, as well as the American Medical Association. The program called for rewards to be given for successful missions carried out by Scientologists.
              Other planned elements of the operation included petitioning governments and the United Nations to charge government critics of Scientology with genocide, on the theory that official criticism of the group constituted "deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction". One of the sentencing memoranda in the case also noted that, contrary to what the defendants claimed, the programs planned by the Guardian's Office were not restricted to trying to remove "false reports" but included plans to plant false information—for instance, planting false records about "a cat with a pedigree name" into US security agency computers so that later "the creature holds a press conference and photographic story results." The purpose of this plan was "to hold up the American security to ridicule, as outlined in the GO by LRH."
              The start of 1974 saw a Michael Meisner appointed Assistant Guardian for Information in the District of Columbia (AG I DC). Meisner’s responsibilities now included the implementation of all Information Bureau orders, programs, and projects within the DC area. Meisner’s supervisor at this time was Duke Snider, the Assistant Guardian for DC, or AG DC. This was the highest position in Washington’s GO office.
              In July 1974 Meisner was ordered by Duke Snider to implement the previously written plan to obtain Interpol documents, which were then located in the U.S. Department of the Treasury. Meisner had more to do than just this, though, as by August he was also taking directions from a Cindy Raymond, the GO's Collections Officer for the US, who ordered Meisner to assist her in finding a loyal Scientologist agent to gain employment at the IRS headquarters in Washington DC. This employee was to steal all documents dealing with Scientology, especially those involving current litigation by Scientology against the government. Meisner discussed this with Raymond for a period of a month before interviewing various Scientologists with no luck. A month after the order had been given, Raymond informed Meisner that she had selected Gerald Wolfe.

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              • tom502
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                • Feb 2009
                • 8985

                #52
                Sounds good to me.

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                • cstokes4
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 41

                  #53
                  MSNBC is propaganda for the White House?

                  Oh... kinda like how Fox was propaganda for the Bush White House.

                  I like to sum up Glenn Beck in a statement he made about Fox News:

                  "I could give a flying crap about the political process," he said, "We're an entertainment company."

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                  • tom502
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 8985

                    #54
                    Sure, it's news entertainment, all the channels are.

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                    • truthwolf1
                      Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2696

                      #55
                      Whenever I get mad at one of these fu@#kers I just try to remember that is the trap.

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                      • danielan
                        Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1514

                        #56
                        Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                        I have a soft spot for Scientology.
                        I hope it's the history of successful tax evasion part and not the abusive brain-washing part. Because I can really get behind the tax evasion part.

                        That's probably not fair.

                        Scientology makes as much sense as any religion.

                        But, had Jesus said, "I'm sick of this whole carpenter thing, let's pretend I'm the messiah" you'd think that it would have had a hard time taking off. (http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/s....religion.html)

                        Then there's the whole idea of a science fiction writer starting a religion that involves, SURPRISE!, space aliens...

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                        • tom502
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 8985

                          #57
                          I like the early Scientology, before Hubbard died(was killed), and usurped and changed.
                          Lots of the things Scientology first explored and found and since been agreed upon as true.
                          Granted the org has deviated and become corrupted, and has many bad elements, but at it's core, I think it's very right on.

                          And while Hubbard did write sci fi, he also wrote westerns and adventure stories.

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                          • sgreger1
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #58
                            Originally posted by cstokes4 View Post
                            MSNBC is propaganda for the White House?

                            Oh... kinda like how Fox was propaganda for the Bush White House.

                            I like to sum up Glenn Beck in a statement he made about Fox News:

                            "I could give a flying crap about the political process," he said, "We're an entertainment company."

                            Exactly like that. Look, this is how it worked:

                            Under Bush:
                            Fox news parroted anything the white house said without question
                            Other outlets were critical or everythign the whitehouse said and dug for dirt on Bush

                            Under Obama:
                            Other outlets parrot anything the whie house says without question
                            Fox news is critical of the white house and digs up dirt on Obama.



                            This is nothign new folcks. We have a left media and a right media, when dems are in than the left media plays the white house parrot and the republicans try to dig up dirt to smear the white house. Next president it will be vice versa. There is nothing new here. Beck is just popular today, once a republican gets in it will be some leftwing pundit who is crying about how our country is taking away his liberties etc.

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #59
                              Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                              I like the early Scientology, before Hubbard died(was killed), and usurped and changed.
                              Lots of the things Scientology first explored and found and since been agreed upon as true.
                              Granted the org has deviated and become corrupted, and has many bad elements, but at it's core, I think it's very right on.

                              And while Hubbard did write sci fi, he also wrote westerns and adventure stories.

                              Wait wait wait. What part of early scientology did you like? You are aware that hubbrd openly admitted he made the whole thing up for money, right?

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                              • tom502
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 8985

                                #60
                                Hubbard never said that, but everything early Dianetics and Scientology revealed is now accepted. Past life recall, cell memory, occluded mental images, abberative reactions. Hubbard was not an idiot, he explored all the religious ideas and psychology ideas, and worked indepthly to creat what he did. I won't say it's flawless, and org is corrupted, but Scientology makes much more sense than Islam, Christianity, and Mormonism, and it's a progressive applied religious philosophy, not just something to believe in someone made up. It's mostly just common sense too. It's really an interesting subject, both the insiders story, the media story, and the official story. The Freezone movement broke away from the corrupted Church, and they provide very interesting history of what was going on http://www.ronsorg.com/

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