Stem-Cell Dental Implants Grow New Teeth Right In Your Mouth

[sgreger1]

Interesting. The exact opposite of everything I've ever read, which claimed no success has ever been achieved using dead babies. But if we are to go this route, I call dibs on the lamp shade. Waste not, want not.

Good God what on earth have you been reading? The whole reason we still want fetal stem cells is that they are superior to adult stem cells. For example umbilical cord stemcells are way more potent and can be used in a much wider range of applications than adult stem cells. It's like anything, a baby can regenerate much faster and can grow much faster because that is what they are programmed to do, whereas once you begin to age, the cell division process slows down for some reason around 21 and you begin to age. In literally every piece of literature I have ever read they re-enforced this. If adult stem cells performed better than there would be absolutely no reason to even propose using fetal stem cells, there would be no debate if they could just use adult stem cells for everything.


I mean, really what are you reading that says there has never been any sucess using fetal stem cells? That is where there has been the MOST achievment by a long shot. That and umbillical cord stemcells (which are considered "adult" stem cells for the moment) which can cure a whole host of present day ailments. (This is why you can pay to have the umbilical cord blood stored so that if later in life your child (or a family member) get sick with a life threatening disease, they can be instantly cured.



EDIT: I should note that I am using the wrong verbiage here. Fetal stem cells are technically associated with the "adult" stem cell group right now. The embryonic stem cells are the good shit. (Embryonic stem cells are what comes from embryos)
I think what you read was that, although embryonic stem cells are the most researched and best of the stem cells, there are no approved treatments using them right now. Though that will change in the future.

[danielan]

IMO, the morality issue ceases when the abortion has happened. Any good you can squeeze out of a bad situation is a net gain.

This, like sgreger says, is, IMO, more like an organ/tissue donation.

As far as the lamp shade goes, kind of tacky IMO, but your interior design issues are yours alone.

[danielan]

I don't like to spew my usually stupid opinions on these hot topics...

Come on - join the club.

but how about just using the money this research has used and apply that to cheaper dental care

Yea, the tooth thing seems kind of extreme until we get this technology more mature. It's easier for me ethically when we are saving lives and fixing handicapped.

[sgreger1]

IMO, the morality issue ceases when the abortion has happened. Any good you can squeeze out of a bad situation is a net gain.

This, like sgreger says, is, IMO, more like an organ/tissue donation.

As far as the lamp shade goes, kind of tacky IMO, but your interior design issues are yours alone.

Does anyone remember the dude that killed all those people and grafted their skin into lampshades and masks? That song "Deadskin Mask" was made about it (awesome song btw. Dance with the dead in my dreams... listen to their hollow screams)

[sgreger1]

Why not use adult stem cells instead of using human embryonic stem cells in research?
Human embryonic stem cells are thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells. This means that embryonic stem cells may be pluripotent—that is, able to give rise to cells found in all tissues of the embryo except for germ cells rather than being merely multipotent—restricted to specific subpopulations of cell types, as adult stem cells are thought to be.

[BuLLitz]

For the method of growing new teeth in the article above, the IDEAL place to get the tissue to generate new teeth is from your WISDOM TEETH. But very few people who need tooth replacement still have their wisdom teeth. Dentists are all too quick to yank em out.
So much for WISDOM.

Irony....

[desirexe]

Does anyone remember the dude that killed all those people and grafted their skin into lampshades and masks? That song "Deadskin Mask" was made about it (awesome song btw. Dance with the dead in my dreams... listen to their hollow screams)

Are you talking about Ed Gein?? I just watched a movie about him on tv, pretty much the worst movie I've seen yet I couldn't stop watching!

@ visiON - good point..as you can see, I was just thinking of self-inflicted tooth loss with my rant.

[bsd777]

Why not use adult stem cells instead of using human embryonic stem cells in research?
Human embryonic stem cells are thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells. This means that embryonic stem cells may be pluripotent—that is, able to give rise to cells found in all tissues of the embryo except for germ cells rather than being merely multipotent—restricted to specific subpopulations of cell types, as adult stem cells are thought to be.

So embryonic stem cells are better than adult stem cells, in theory? Anything demonstrable, any actual success or just theory? I see you are from Santa Cruz, so I anticipate the likely visceral reaction to the source of this article, but once the emotions have run their course, feel free to provide something concrete which disproves her contention. I've yet to ever hear a logical refutation of any of her arguments. Not saying it's impossible, just that all I've ever heard were personal and emotional attacks. I think she's brilliant. Show me she's wrong.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1734534/posts

[danielan]

Show me she's wrong.

I don't think she is wrong, I think she is confused. If this was about killing people for their stem cells then she would probably be right.

Taking tissue from dead people is not the same as killing them. I have a moral issue with killing people. I do not have a moral problem with harvesting organs and tissue from dead people.

I'm not sure why it confuses her that there would be more research and successes with research that is well funded.

I really (sometimes embarrassingly) agree with her on more topics then I disagree with her on. I just think she is too emotional on this one. If you want to stop abortion it, logically, needs to be stopped before it happens.