So, what's the general consensus here on evolution?

[snupy]

My grandmother used to say "I won't believe I'm descended from monkeys, that ridiculous and disgusting."

Yeah, it's so much LESS ridiculous and disgusting to assume we all came from DIRT because of the fables of ancient bronze age goat herders who told stories of talking serpents (Genesis 3:1) and talking donkeys (Numbers 22:28).

[chainsnuser]

How many people in the U.S. oppose the theory of evolution? I mean they can't be more than a few religious freaks from the backwoods, or am I wrong?

In Europe, nobody, religious or not, even thinks about it. Natural selection is the only possible answer to the origin of species.

Cheers!

[Roo]

Good to see you snupy

[daruckis]

How many people in the U.S. oppose the theory of evolution? I mean they can't be more than a few religious freaks from the backwoods, or am I wrong?

In Europe, nobody, religious or not, even thinks about it. Natural selection is the only possible answer to the origin of species.

Cheers!

yeah, you would think that. in my neck of the woods, id say most people are probably creationists. theres a church on every block in grand haven, and the christies get pretty intense.

[sgreger1]

@ SnusDog and JustinTemplar:

Wow, your little exchange has been the most intiresting thing i've read on the internets all morning! lol, really though I had never thought of things in that way, as I am not an educated man and have no understanding of philospphy or anything like that, but from what I put together from your posts I want to know more. Recommend any good books on the subject you are discussing?

[Snusdog]

@ SnusDog and JustinTemplar:

Wow, your little exchange has been the most intiresting thing i've read on the internets all morning! lol, really though I had never thought of things in that way, as I am not an educated man and have no understanding of philospphy or anything like that, but from what I put together from your posts I want to know more. Recommend any good books on the subject you are discussing?

A good place to begin would be

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn

It is a very serious and influential work but written on a layman's level. Check it out.

And

Science and Theology by John Polkinghorne

Don't let the title fool you (I am not sending you Sunday School material) Polkinghorn held the Newton Chair of Physics at Cambridge- the chair now held by Steven Hawkings. This a brilliant work that takes both disciplines seriously.

Anyway start with these and if you need more let me know

[justintempler]

How many people in the U.S. oppose the theory of evolution? I mean they can't be more than a few religious freaks from the backwoods, or am I wrong?

In Europe, nobody, religious or not, even thinks about it. Natural selection is the only possible answer to the origin of species.

Cheers!

Compared to Europe, we're in real sad shape over here.

[snupy]

Compared to Europe, we're in real sad shape over here.

Agreed. I just wish the creationists/ID supporters would be honest and publicize the fact their beliefs are based on stories of talking animals, no different than the talking wolf in Little Red Riding Hood.

[tom502]

It's in the Bible, that means it's true, as the Holy Word of God.

[sgreger1]

Agreed. I just wish the creationists/ID supporters would be honest and publicize the fact their beliefs are based on stories of talking animals, no different than the talking wolf in Little Red Riding Hood.

Wait, are you implying the Little Red Riding Hood is not real? Omg, this changes EVERYTHING! The cake is a lie, my whole world is turned upside down!

[texasmade]

fireants evolved from the great AI of monkey ball

[victoryredchevy]

The theory of evolution is as much a theory to me as my beliefs are theory to non-believers that don't want to hear it. I believe in evolution of organisms, etc., but not physically in humans from what we supposedly were to what we are now... Not Darwin's Theory. In a world of science, proof/evidence and material.. evolution provides some of that, yeah. I have to have way more than that, though. Folks like me don't need evidence to justify believing in something by faith. Some people do. I understand that. And I never push that on anyone. I hate when hardcore bible thumpers get on me as well and I'm a Christian! Maybe people refuse to believe a scenario where there is a Creator and a Destroyer that works in their lives at every second and that they do have to choose between accepting an eternity in a heaven or hell? I mean, can you disprove Christianity as much as you can prove Darwin's Theory?

[tom502]

One interesting theory I read, which has a name I don't recall, is that early man went all over the planet and mated with the indegenous beings from their respected land areas. But what made me wonder, is who these indigenous people where? Since they existed there, before the "1st" men from Africa migrated there.

[sgreger1]

One interesting theory I read, which has a name I don't recall, is that early man went all over the planet and mated with the indegenous beings from their respected land areas. But what made me wonder, is who these indigenous people where? Since they existed there, before the "1st" men from Africa migrated there.

You mean us mating with other bipedal homo sapiens like homo flourensis or Neanderthals? Interspecies sex usually breeds (if any) offspring that cannot reproduce, that's why chicken fuc*ers don't have baby chiclets walking around that look likt them.

[tom502]

No, there are two main theories, they both have terms I can't recall, a simple google thould fine them, but one is that man evolved in Africa, and then went all over the globe, then, the other, which I think it more logical, that early men left Africa and found indigenous peoples and settled and bred with them, all over the globe. This also would explain why there are so many different types of races in certain parts of the globe.