Why is Pro-Hitler and Alex Jones Allowed on this list?

[tom502]

The US's hands are not clean, of the same things the Germans have been accused of. They were technologically superior in all areas. We even stole the nuclear science from them. I think most of the bad things we level at them, are war propaganda drilled into our heads since the 30's, by our government controlled media and school systems. They are no more "evil" than those who flew(fly) the stars and stripes.

[sgreger1]

The US's hands are not clean, of the same things the Germans have been accused of. They were technologically superior in all areas. We even stole the nuclear science from them. I think most of the bad things we level at them, are war propaganda drilled into our heads since the 30's, by our government controlled media and school systems. They are no more "evil" than those who flew(fly) the stars and stripes.

I think propaganda plays into it some, but the concentration camps and furnaces cannot go unmentioned. They were literally pilling people in vans, then connecting the exhaust to the inside of the van and pumping carbon monoxide in there to kill them. Then later they started running out of places to put people so they just gassed them with zyklon B and burned the bodies in furnaces. Millions.

The US has never done that, but our hands are not clean either. The thing is the US has never taken 1 race of people and burned them by the millions. That fact is not war propaganda as during the nuremberg trials no one from the german side was denying it.




The worst part is that when governments commit attrocities, the citizens stand by and in some cases even carry out said attrocities. The germans eventually figured out what was happening to the jews, but it was too late by then and the control structure was in place, they just let it happen. Same in many countries including our own, even if it's common knowledge that we are doing something wrong, we say nothing as long as it doesn't affect us.



But tom, while propaganda plays a role in everything, there is no question that what germany did was more attrocious than anything ive heard of from america or russia. We have all had gulags but never the burning of millions of people based on race alone, in an attempt to cleans the planet of their "inferior" genes.

[tom502]

It's such a volitile subject, I don't like to discuss it. I was not there, I don't "know". I do find the site codoh to be very interesting. Google it.

[truthwolf1]

I think the Concentration camps on both sides should be re-investigated by todays scientists to get a more accurate understanding but the Russians and Jews will not allow it and even have laws against it.

One can only wonder why?

[tom502]

Noted scientists have tried to examine things, and those that did, and found things that did not agree with what we have been told, and have been swiftly scorned and not seen again in public.

[truthwolf1]

Most of the people in the German camps died from starvation and disease. Supply lines were continually bombed by Americans which led to a lack of food. Diseased bodies started to stack up so they had to burn them. Zyklon-B was used as a disinfectant.

[Roo]

Jesus Christ, here we go again. Can we not tout the benefits of fckng HITLER on this forum? You don't like to discuss it? Give me a break. You use every chance you can get. Visit a concentration camp. It requires a plane ticket and a passport, but some of you sound like you need to get out more. Peace, Roo

PS: oops, sorry for coming off like my opinion is the only right one. Please, share some more about how the Nazis were *almost* the greatest regime in recorded history. And how Nancy Pelosi would be smoking hot if she wasn't so fckng ugly.

[tom502]

truthwolf- Treading on dangerous waters. If you were in Germany and said that, you'd be in prison. If you propagated this, even in the US, and went to visit Germany, they could stop you at the airport and take you to prison.

[sgreger1]

Most of the people in the German camps died from starvation and disease. Supply lines were continually bombed by Americans which led to a lack of food. Diseased bodies started to stack up so they had to burn them. Zyklon-B was used as a disinfectant.

Wtf are you guys reading? There is no need for conjecture here, the officers who ran the camps openly addmitted to what they were doing. They did not use zyklon b as a disinfectant, they used it to gas live people and then burned them because the mass graves were getting too full, so the safest way to efficiently get rid of the bodies was by burning them.


Why do you guys think we need an investigation to find out if it was really 6 million or maybe just 4? The germans admitted to what they did, even they don't contest it. The point is that they rounded up people based on race, then worked them to their bones, most dying from disease and starvation. NOT because the evil americans bombed their supply lines, but because the goal was to kill them after working them to death first. They would give them a single piece of bread and a small bit of water, and the only medication they could have was 1 or 2 asprin between 30 people in each hut. Meanwhile the CAPO's and the SS ate like kings.


Stop trying to blame the US for something the germans did. I know some of our corps played both sides and I know we have done bad stuff too, but stop trying to say "hitler was great except for the whole world domination and ethnic cleansing/burning of millions of people thing."

[tom502]

sgreg- I know it's not easy to have an open mind regarding something that has been drilled into one's head since childhood, and been endorsed by all the media and governments, but when you have the time, and take your time, please visit and read the codoh site. I used to only believe what I was told and saw on TV, and in the books I read, and I did read them. But, something not right has happened, and continues to happen, I don't know what, maybe it's like 9/11, but something, I make no accusations or opinions.

[sgreger1]

sgreg- I know it's not easy to have an open mind regarding something that has been drilled into one's head since childhood, and been endorsed by all the media and governments, but when you have the time, and take your time, please visit and read the codoh site. I used to only believe what I was told and saw on TV, and in the books I read, and I did read them. But, something not right has happened, and continues to happen, I don't know what, maybe it's like 9/11, but something, I make no accusations or opinions.

I will check out your site when I get home but I doubt it'll be any different from the rest ive read. I understand there is a dispute about just how many millions of people were burned but the fact still remains that it happened. The germans even admit to it, I have personally read testimony from Officers at the nuremberg trials where they describe exactly how it went down. I heave read books from survivors and am looking for books written by SS guards right now (if aynone knows any that would be sweet).


It's like Obama right, if he rounded up all the white people and killed several million of them. Then in the future, some guy comes along and is like "I really liked OBama because he brought superior healthcare to america. Yah sure there was millions of whites burned but aside from that, the healthcare was great and he really kicked the nation up a notch. He was a great speaker and a sharp dresser, and most of the "whites being rounded up and killed in gulags" thing is just propaganda anyway, I heard it was only HALF the white people that they claim".



You should know me Tom, I am very open minded about almost everything, but there are some things that are set in stone. In germany you have the perpetrators admitting to it, millions of refugees saved from the camps, looking like stick figures, and youve got everyone admitting to it, pictures of the mass graves, everything down the line. The structures for gassing and the furnaces, all there. I fail to see where there could be a conspiracy here. Maybe infalting the numbers a little bit but really, who cares?

[tom502]

I know you are open minded, though you seem pretty firm on this issue. It is sorta like 9/11, in that the more you look into, you wonder. Also, it's not all about a certain event, but it is also tied to the establishment of a certain place. And for freedom and truth minded people, an area of concern, I'd think some would have, is the level of brutish draconian tactics used to silence any public questioning of any aspect of said even in certain nations. Again, I make no accusations, and offer no opinions, just finding the topic to be of interest.

[sgreger1]

I know you are open minded, though you seem pretty firm on this issue. It is sorta like 9/11, in that the more you look into, you wonder. Also, it's not all about a certain event, but it is also tied to the establishment of a certain place. And for freedom and truth minded people, an area of concern, I'd think some would have, is the level of brutish draconian tactics used to silence any public questioning of any aspect of said even in certain nations. Again, I make no accusations, and offer no opinions, just finding the topic to be of interest.

Since I can't access your site from work, maybe you can fill me in on what evidence of wrongdoing may exist. My question is: What exactly is the purpose of the conspiracy theory, what is it they hope to find?

Can we agree the germans created concentration camps, worked jews to the death and then gass and burned them once they were no longer fit? Are all the photos of it happening doctored, are the testimony of the SS not to be believed?

Can we agree that millions of jews died, even if we can't agree on the number, do we agree the holocaust happened?



I am just not sure what the conspiracy theory is pointing to, what it is implying "really" happened. I am pretty sure this just goes back to those who are pissed at Israel being a country. I don't side with the palestinians and hamas and the like on any issue, and the israel thing is no different.




EDIT: I will agree the "no speaking bad of the holocaust" laws in europe are stupid. I guess I am spoiled as an american but I should be able to say whatever I like freely, whether i'm right or wrong. I should be able to openly say "I hate chinks" or "The holocaust was really a plot by aliens" and not go to jail for it. We have to allow freedom of speech, even for stupid people, otherwise we become like the democrats who wish only their newspeak dictionary of words be "free" to use.

[tom502]

I can agree that eventually Jews and others were placed in camps. Before that, many Jews left of their own volition, no one was prevented from leaving. Ships of Jews went to the UK, and the US, and were turned away. The Germans had a plan to relocate the Jews to Madagascar. Many Jews stayed and "converted" and became generals in the Nazi army. The allies bombed the supply routes to the camps. I think this true, though it does not get discussed much. The site I recommend as something interesting, is very in depth and detailed, and one would have to view it in their own time.

[sgreger1]

And how Nancy Pelosi would be smoking hot if she wasn't so fckng ugly.

But can we believe the story were told about nancy pelosi? How do you know shes really ugly? Sure there are pictures and witnesses, and she admits to being ugly, but if I call up her secretary and say "id like to speak to miss pelosi and tell her she's ugly", they hang up on me. WHY? What are they hiding? Maybe there is more to the story than you are willing to admit Roo. I heard that Nancy Pelosi is mainly propaganda from the commies and may not hav actualy existed at all. I also heard she escaped to the north pole and is hiding in the hollow earth right now.