Sgreger1's WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD REPORT

[sgreger1]

Not again with this revisionist liberal history lesson. One more time boys and girls, CONGRESS set the budget and spends the money, not the president. So it's Reagan's fault your looser parents voted for Tip Oneil and Ted Kennedy? Reagan pleaded with congress to cut spending, Obama continues to plead with congress to spend MORE.

Reagan implemented tax cuts that led to massive economic growth. Obama implemented tax increases, many begin Jan 1 2011, which will cause even greater economic contraction.
Reagan supported freedom around the world and was successful in Nicaragua, Russia and the Soviet Republics. Obama, supported the socialist/marxist wannabe, in El salvador, didn't even provide moral support to students in Iran, can't wait to help the communist cuban regime and has taken an openly hostile approach toward the only free republic in the entire middle east.

Reagan was a great president. One of the top five of all time.

First of all, if there was anyone here who is not a liberal, that person is me. But that doesn't change history. I love Reagan for all of the reasons you mentioned but my numbers are legit. Yes it was because of a liberal congress, but it still happened under him. Just like bush, democrats have ran congress since 06 so most of what people hate about bush was CAUSED by the dem controlled congress. They signed off on all of it, the wars, the torture, the patriot act, everything.

But he signed off on it. I hate Obama for the same reason, even though I know congress is who writes the rules. But it happened on his watch and he signed off on it instead of vetoing it.

Don't give me some revisionist crap yourself, he was the most pro illegal immigration, pro deficit spending, pro defense spending, pro tax increase president of his day. That's not what he wanted but that's what we got under him because the dems in congress brought that and he didn't veto it, therefor it is his fault because the president has the final say. Same with Obama. Like Reagan did with Carter, Obama inherited a crappy situation, a high deficit, 2 wars and a terrible recession. I do not cut him slack and I do not cut Reagan slack either, because when your president, the buck stops with you.

[danielan]

Joe, you owe me 9:11.

BTW - less then 30-33% of the US registered voters voted for Obama.

That's a mandate against him right?

[sgreger1]

The ONLY problem with Republicans, is when they act too much like Democrats.

The only problem with republicans is when they scream about low deficits, small government, less regulation, and lower taxes, when they instead choose to raise deficits, increase spending, grow government, lower taxes ONLY for the rich etc once they are in power.


Name me an instance of bush lowering deficits, shrinking government, increasing individual liberties and freedom, lowering spending, or lowering taxes for the average Joe. He did none of the above. I still vote republican because at least they pretend to want what I want, the dems just flat out tell me to eat cake.

[danielan]

The only problem with republicans is when they scream ... and lower taxes, when they instead choose to ... lower taxes ONLY for the rich etc once they are in power. Name me an instance of bush lowering taxes for the average Joe.

"Average Joe" probably pays no Federal Income tax at this point.

If he works, he pays Social Security and Medicaid and calls those taxes. He probably gets most of his contributions to those back in the form of "Earned Income Credit".

When the bottom 40%+ of Americans pay no income taxes it becomes much harder to give them tax cuts. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly....html?x=0&.v=1

I suppose you could cut their Social Security contributions, but then to be fair you'd have to reduce their benefits too. Or re-vamp the whole program so it is just a tax.

But at this point, tax cuts that avoid the "wealthy" are basically wealth redistribution schemes.

[StuKlu]

Reagan was the greatest president of at least the last 100 years. Obama is the worst president of at least the last 100 years.

Over and out.

[Joe234]

Reagan was the greatest president of at least the last 100 years. Obama is the worst president of at least the last 100 years.

Over and out.

Right
Reagan was a piece of crap despised by at least half the population.
I was there.
Worst President over last 100 years. G W Bush. Allowed a terrorist
attack, 911. Katrina Response. Economic collapse.

Reagan ramped up the drug war:
Click Here
Reagan's drug policy legacy is a disaster. For all the people contacted by DRCNet for this article – which included both critics and admirers of the Reagan presidency overall – the question was not whether Reagan's drug policies were bad, but how bad and how much of the blame he shares with others. To drug reformers, the Reagan-era represented a traumatic disappointment, a time when the nation hurtled down a path of massive suffering, waste and injustice.

Iran Contra:
Reagan Breaks Laws then Lies About It

Secret Gov - Above the Law 1

The CIA Crack Cocaine Drug Trade Exposé

[danielan]

Reagan ramped up the drug war:
Click Here

Did you even read that article?

[Joe234]

Did you even read that article?

Why do you ask? I skimmed it. I have been an ally of The Drug Policy Alliance
for over a decade. Did I miss something?

[Veganpunk]

The only good thing that came from Regan was the flood of music bitching about him. Same with W. Punk thrives under Republican terms.

[danielan]

Why do you ask? I skimmed it. I have been an ally of The Drug Policy Alliance for over a decade. Did I miss something?

It's just that the article kind of says, "Yeah, Reagan supported the war on drugs. It seriously escalated during his terms in office. But it was a society wide deal with the dems pushing as much or more then the republicans."

[dxh]

The only good thing that came from Regan was the flood of music bitching about him. Same with W. Punk thrives under Republican terms.

HaHA. Awesome

[sgreger1]

Right
Reagan was a piece of crap despised by at least half the population.
I was there.
Worst President over last 100 years. G W Bush. Allowed a terrorist
attack, 911. Katrina Response. Economic collapse.

Reagan ramped up the drug war:
Click Here
Reagan's drug policy legacy is a disaster. For all the people contacted by DRCNet for this article – which included both critics and admirers of the Reagan presidency overall – the question was not whether Reagan's drug policies were bad, but how bad and how much of the blame he shares with others. To drug reformers, the Reagan-era represented a traumatic disappointment, a time when the nation hurtled down a path of massive suffering, waste and injustice.

Okay well Obama has worse approval ratings than Regan at this point in his term and actually has the lowest approvals on record yet for the end of his first year. So by your standard Obama is also a piece of shit?

I don't like Reagan's stance on the drug war at all but that is a minor issue compared to some of the other things they were faced with at the time. What pissed me off the most was that he allowed the dems to give amnesty. THat's the problem, when republicans are in charge, the dem controlled congress will always do crazy shit to destroy the country because they know it will make the president look bad. I mean look at since 06, the dems votes YES on everything they stand against today, and even as tehy continue to renew the patriot act and spend like drunken sailors, they still try to claim they are going to reduce the deficit and that it's all the republicans fault.

[dxh]

Okay well Obama has worse approval ratings than Regan at this point in his term and actually has the lowest approvals on record yet for the end of his first year. So by your standard Obama is also a piece of shit?

I don't like Reagan's stance on the drug war at all but that is a minor issue compared to some of the other things they were faced with at the time. What pissed me off the most was that he allowed the dems to give amnesty. THat's the problem, when republicans are in charge, the dem controlled congress will always do crazy shit to destroy the country because they know it will make the president look bad. I mean look at since 06, the dems votes YES on everything they stand against today, and even as tehy continue to renew the patriot act and spend like drunken sailors, they still try to claim they are going to reduce the deficit and that it's all the republicans fault.

I really feel this is the case on both sides. Dems try to wreck pubs and vice versa.
I really did not mean to hijack this thread and make it about Reagan. I just wanted to put in my opinion. I really like the diversity here. Nice to see left and right united under snus

[sgreger1]

I really feel this is the case on both sides. Dems try to wreck pubs and vice versa.
I really did not mean to hijack this thread and make it about Reagan. I just wanted to put in my opinion. I really like the diversity here. Nice to see left and right united under snus

My good sir that is the largest problem we face in modern politics today! It has become so partisan that now each side is going full retard in their attempts to folly the other side. If theres a dem president then republicans in congress do everything they can to ruin him, even if it negitavely affects the nation, same with the dems, they will sign off on torture and war and then campaign on an anti-torture and war platform. I mean it goes back and forth and there is no patriotism anymore,only loyalty to party. Meanwhile the whole thing is on fire and they are too busy bickering to successfully commision a firetruck in time to save it.

[dxh]

My good sir that is the largest problem we face in modern politics today! It has become so partisan that now each side is going full retard in their attempts to folly the other side. If theres a dem president then republicans in congress do everything they can to ruin him, even if it negitavely affects the nation, same with the dems, they will sign off on torture and war and then campaign on an anti-torture and war platform. I mean it goes back and forth and there is no patriotism anymore,only loyalty to party. Meanwhile the whole thing is on fire and they are too busy bickering to successfully commision a firetruck in time to save it.

Well said.