Riots in Oakland

[dxh]

Slaves before america were prisoner's of war.

slaves in america were prisoners of war that were sold, then the europeans got greedy and pillages the coast and took as they pleased.

there is a difference in winning then taking the remaining as your own and robbing a bank because you don't have as much of something that you would like to.

Sure. There is a huge difference

[Premium Parrots]

it would be a riot to have a slave. personally I think everybody should have at least one......it doesn't matter what color they are as long as they are female. don't hate me cuz I'm right [or white]. there are plenty of other reasons to hate me. so pick another one and go for it.

[dxh]

Rioting and looting is never acceptable, and I am in no way supporting that kind of response to this incident, but some of these responses cry out for an understanding of motive beyond the severely outdated context of slavery.

You said it better then I could have. Nice post.

[tom502]

I find it moreso just a sorry excuse to retard oneself, and relegate oneself to thug love, instead of doing right, and making something of oneself. Sure it's not easy, for anyone. But to racially identify your "plight" with the plight of someone else is just a lazy thug excuse to steal and rob.

[myuserid]

Sports riots are not confined to California. They happen in other states and countries. 'They' is a perception. Do you mean black people, Mexican people or just Californians?
It was not that long ago that whites were the ones rioting to stop the advancement of civil liberties for black people, and lynching them. I hate senseless acts of vandalism and looting, but I know people in my family tree have done worse. Not making excuses, but it seemed like you were referring to a specific group of people when I feel all races have played the evil side at some point.

I meant Californians.

And the "we just won a championship" riots in America are confined there for the most part.

Secondly, it was a joke. Lighten up.

[skyline142]

+1

God, LaZeR just cracks me up. As soon as I saw the comment on Bla and skruf, totally knew he was gonna comment. This is great.

[dxh]

I meant Californians.

And the "we just won a championship" riots in America are confined there for the most part.

Secondly, it was a joke. Lighten up.

I was just curious. I am as light as a ghost

[myuserid]

I was just curious. I am as light as a ghost

Cool.

[dxh]

Cool.

What part of Alabama are you in? I lived in Opilika for 2 years.(thread hijack alert!)

[texasmade]

what part of alabama are you in? I lived in opilika for 2 years.(thread hijack alert!)

code red code red code red

[myuserid]

What part of Alabama are you in? I lived in Opilika for 2 years.(thread hijack alert!)

I live in Moody now. It's in St. Clair County about 20 miles east of Birmingham.

[dxh]

I live in Moody now. It's in St. Clair County about 20 miles east of Birmingham.

Never been there. I did discover where the term 'wrong side of the tracks' came from in Opilika. A lot of self segregation. I hope your area is more pleasant, I am sure it is not like that throughout the state.

[timholian]

So I watched the video again.....
It looked like there were 3 lazer sights pointed at the kid at the beginning of the altercation. So, if he needed to be tazered , why didn't the other officers do that right away if it was a situation had called for a tazer? It also looked like the officer looked as he reached for his weapon.

Do I think this cop shot this kid in cold blood? No way... You cant really make out his face after it happens but IMO you can see the shear terror on his face having realized what he did.

I kinda think the charges against him were valid but I also feel there should have been a greater punishment for such an error by someone we entrust with keeping the peace.

Seems like we need more training for police and more vacation for police officers AND soldiers. These cops see the scum of America EVERY DAY, I think they should be entitled for a good amount of downtime.

[bsd777]

People commit crime because they think they can get away with it. A riot is a good opportunity to get free stuff and break shit. Some people enjoy breaking shit.

[shikitohno]

Jesus -- black people do not riot because white people enslaved their ancestors hundreds of years ago. It happens when severe injustices are leveraged against black communities as a reaction against a system in which the black community is at an inherant life-long disadvantage for the procurement of resources. I am not justifying violence and stealing, I just want to say it has nothing to do with avenging slavery for Christ's sake. It has a lot more to do with pent-up anger toward a social system in which equal opportunity does not exist, despite what some people (person) here claims about the "legal discrimination" against whites, and the natural reaction to go out and get yours when the opportunity presents itself at the expense of the perceived oppressors. Now of course, the owner of the Footlocker in downtown Oakland is not the oppressor. But that is why "race riots" occur, albeit with very misguided rationale; an opportunity to take what has been denied through fewer legitimate channels of societal and material gain. If you don't think it's a lot harder for minorities to excel academically and fiscally when their families and peers have been relegated to the lowest sector of society by way of discrimination, lazy stereotypes, socio-economic status or their own life decisions, and if you think that it's hard to be a white man these days what with affirmative action and all..... where the **** do you live? Rioting and looting is never acceptable, and I am in no way supporting that kind of response to this incident, but some of these responses cry out for an understanding of motive beyond the severely outdated context of slavery.

Roo, I disagree with the statements about anti-white discrimination, but I've heard all sorts of stupid shit justified by slavery. I've heard in New York City, more rural areas of NY and I've heard it along the northeast coast from New York to Maine. I had a kid in my class in highschool, who would show to 30 minutes into a 44 minute class with no excuse for why he was late, having just been hanging out in the hall. When the teacher gave him detention (he did this a lot), the inevitable response from Andrew was, "Oh, miss, you doing this because I is black, ain't you? That's why you doing this, cause you a racist!" A brief not, this kid really did talk that way, I'm not taking a shot at black people with those lines. I've had black guys in New York City accuse me of being a racist who probably wants to enslave black people again because I refused to pay $10 to him to buy he's crappy CD he was selling on the street in Manhattan. Yes, slavery was bad, I get that. But, I never owned a single damn slave myself. It's not a large part of black people who do this, but there is a consistent group amongst the African-American population (drawing from people I've met) who simply use slavery as an excuse. Discrimination still exists, yes. African Americans tend to get screwed with low paying jobs, living in bad sections of town. But not all of them do. There are plenty of black people who work their ass off and get ahead in live. They make their life and the lives of their families better by doing something about the situation rather than bitching and moaning about how the white man is keeping them down. I just get tired of hearing stupid crap from those few who blame everything on slavery and the white man.

It's like how you see some white people who constantly complain about "dirty Mexicans and Pakis" coming and stealing their jobs. It's not the Mexican or the Indian guy's fault that they are just as qualified as you and willing to work for less money than you are. It's your own damn fault you don't have a job because you saw these guys getting hired, and you didn't do anything to make yourself a more attractive hire then they were. I'm all for equal opportunity, but equal opportunity doesn't mean I'll treat you as special or above the law because once, over a century ago, some man who had no relation to me enslaved one of your relatives. I lived in a number of places, and I've heard black people justify riots for such stupid reasons as slavery. Most black people are smarter than that, but like I said, there's that one group that's very vocal that just makes black people as a whole look stupid. For one such ass, look at Al Sharpton whenever he makes a speech after a white guy does anything to a black person. No matter the circumstances, cop is guilty.

And I understand a small part of the discrimination against white people argument that I do agree with. Say Irish me is selling large quantities of drugs. I get shot by a black guy in a drug bust. Nobody gives a damn because if I wasn't engaged in a crime, I very likely would not have been shot. A black guy in the middle of committing a crime gets shot by a white cop, though, and suddenly the news is awash in reports of how much cops hate black people. Feel free to insert other historically oppressed ethnic group into that second sentence, and it largely holds true. If it's a case like Amadou Diallo, than there's likely a good deal of merit to claims of racism. But you get no pity from me with the racism card when the guy was in the midst of committing a criminal act. White cops don't just drive around Compton or Brooklyn picking off black people from squad cars. You don't want to get shot by police, not committing crimes goes a long way towards lowering the odds of it happening.