Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[tom502]

Now, I personally, do not dislike "the Jews" at all. My parents tell me we are Jewish, though apart from being asked due to my "Jew-like" appearance, I really don't know, as we went to Baptist church when I was child. But I generally like Jews, Seinfeld, Mel Brooks, Larry David, Marx Brothers, 3 Stooges, Larry David, Fran Drescher, Neil Diamond, yeah, I know these are entertainers, but I like them. My only concern is the Zionist state of Israel and it's world control and influence, and it's connection to a certain "event" in "official" history that seems to be "protected" from question by threats of legal action, and worse. There is obviously a major world cover-up happening for the last 60+ years. And all our politicians in the USA and world are directly being manipulated by it.

[truthwolf1]

I think we had a revisionist thread sometime a couple of weeks ago! Sgregers dead body pics from the camps are still haunting but not a closed case in a lot of ways. This whole revisiting of WW2 on a less Zionist propagandidized view is very new for westerners and Europeans. Before the internet this was all tucked away in banned books and old memories of the people who lived through that time. Some of the things I have seen just in the last year on the history channel especially with the Ukraine were very taboo to talk about not so long ago. This New Anti-Semitism is really nothing more then looking back and investigating a old war and the atrocities from it. Eastern Europe is less then two decades alive and there is a bad feeling from the North to the South about being ignored from history.
I think in time there will be more of a balance of thought for that era with the new idea that the Jewish holocaust was not the only one or the worst.

[sgreger1]

Investigate what? How many people died? Thats impossible to do. Why does it matter? We know there were concentration camps and we know the germans admitted to doing it. I fail to see how there is some conspiracy at all. Is every jew in on it too?

[texasmade]

Investigate what? How many people died? Thats impossible to do. Why does it matter? We know there were concentration camps and we know the germans admitted to doing it. I fail to see how there is some conspiracy at all. Is every jew in on it too?

GOD DAMMIT

There's nothing against the ****ing jews. Zionism ≠ Judaism.
They are two different things and there are Rabbis that say this.

Stop with the ****ing jews are zionists shit because they aren't. Nobody is saying the jews did anything. The ****ing holocaust was bad. Hitler was a nut.


And joe you're the on posting the ****ing idiocy when you say that jews are equated to zionist. You can't read through this thread and say that we are calling jews zionists because that is simply an untruth.

JEWS ARE NOT IN ON ANYTHINg. ZIONISM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH JUDAISM SO STOP MAKING IT SEEM LIKE SOMEONE THAT SAYS OR USES THE WORD "ZIONIST" IS AN ANTI-SEMITE.

[texasmade]

They will make money....no matter what. I did not know IBM made guns. Interesting.

Want a fanta?

Corporations thrive during wartime.

They have no side.

[truthwolf1]

Investigate what? How many people died? Thats impossible to do. Why does it matter? We know there were concentration camps and we know the germans admitted to doing it. I fail to see how there is some conspiracy at all. Is every jew in on it too?

I think having thought crimes on this topic in the (14) or so countries is anti-science, anti-freedom and a draconian policy. If somebody wants to investigate they should be allowed to do so. Why would you want to deny somebody that? because everything has been answered beyond doubt for eternity?

[tom502]

It's hard to have a rational online debate on holocaust revision, unless both parties are really knowledgeable about what exactly the subject is.

sgreger- yes, the numbers do matter, because the Zionist world police say they do, and in some nations they track you down and lock you up if you state a disagreeing number.

The Germans did have camps, so did every nation. The history of German-Jew relations before the war should be known somewhat too. After numerous attempts to extradite the Jews, even with the US and UK refusing them entry, and a plan to move them to Madagascar failed, after the World Jewish Congress insisted Palestine or nothing, things got bad, after the war got into effect. Typhus was the cause of deaths. Not to say there were no mistreatments or murders, we(the US) did that to nearly a million Germans in our camps). But there never was an order to genocide. And the 6 mill number is unsubstantiated.

Read this, at least to get an idea of what the points are:
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html

It's an interesting read, whether you agree with it's findings or not, it's also interesting about historical times that we usually are unaware of.

[truthwolf1]

Before sending "Grissom" to Auschwitz, I would like to know more about the deportations of eastern europeans to the gulags of Russia and the Siberian work camps.

[krahv]

I've heard that the germans planned to send them where they are today. Even Hess said that plan was to send them there, so the neighboring counties will attack them and destroy them.

And they did send them there but thanks to brits and neighboring countries did attack them but isrealis won. How can a nation who had lost almost 1/2 population put up a winning fight with other arab nations ?

Guess who fought for the isrealis ? Supposeldy most of them were jews who had been fighting in german army.

[krahv]

My great grandma was send to siberia for 5 years in the '50s because someone tipped her off because her husband refused to fight in the russian army and escaped to the forrest where he was killed.

Its hard to tell it in english, but there was mass deportations during and after the war. During the war these war deathcamps because there were very bad living conditions and over 75% died i believe but in '50s it started to stabilize and supposedly it wasnt that bad.

But when they first came in they went on to killing spree

[sgreger1]

GOD DAMMIT

There's nothing against the ****ing jews. Zionism ≠ Judaism.
They are two different things and there are Rabbis that say this.

Stop with the ****ing jews are zionists shit because they aren't. Nobody is saying the jews did anything. The ****ing holocaust was bad. Hitler was a nut.


And joe you're the on posting the ****ing idiocy when you say that jews are equated to zionist. You can't read through this thread and say that we are calling jews zionists because that is simply an untruth.

JEWS ARE NOT IN ON ANYTHINg. ZIONISM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH JUDAISM SO STOP MAKING IT SEEM LIKE SOMEONE THAT SAYS OR USES THE WORD "ZIONIST" IS AN ANTI-SEMITE.

So i dont get how the zionists are in on it than. I mean what striking blow will be dealt to the zionist movement if they investigate the holocaust AGAIN. If the number of jews who died is less, how does that hurt the zionists.

[tom502]

It means their holy power and sacred Israel is a sham and will fall.

[sgreger1]

I think having thought crimes on this topic in the (14) or so countries is anti-science, anti-freedom and a draconian policy. If somebody wants to investigate they should be allowed to do so. Why would you want to deny somebody that? because everything has been answered beyond doubt for eternity?

I dont agree with those laws either. Im just sayifng, what is it you plan on investigating if you could. The bodies are burned and many of the concentration camps along with them. Not sure what there is to investigate, its not like hitler had the names of everyone he killed on a spreadsheet or something.


The problem here is that the jews died in the holocaust, and so saying it didnt happen pisses off jews. Was hitler in on this zionist conspiracy? I mean they run the world, right?


Why not investigate holocausts in uganda or something, why is everyone so preoccupied with the jews?

[sgreger1]

It's hard to have a rational online debate on holocaust revision, unless both parties are really knowledgeable about what exactly the subject is.

sgreger- yes, the numbers do matter, because the Zionist world police say they do, and in some nations they track you down and lock you up if you state a disagreeing number.

The Germans did have camps, so did every nation. The history of German-Jew relations before the war should be known somewhat too. After numerous attempts to extradite the Jews, even with the US and UK refusing them entry, and a plan to move them to Madagascar failed, after the World Jewish Congress insisted Palestine or nothing, things got bad, after the war got into effect. Typhus was the cause of deaths. Not to say there were no mistreatments or murders, we(the US) did that to nearly a million Germans in our camps). But there never was an order to genocide. And the 6 mill number is unsubstantiated.

Read this, at least to get an idea of what the points are:
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html

It's an interesting read, whether you agree with it's findings or not, it's also interesting about historical times that we usually are unaware of.

Tom, there was an order for genocide. The guards all admitted to it. They would work them to death and then kill them, or kill the ones too weak to work right off the bat. Typhus spreads easily in a dirty camp packed with malnurished people. Its just that the germans admitted to all this, so im not even sure where this doubt comes from.

[lxskllr]

Why not investigate holocausts in uganda or something, why is everyone so preoccupied with the jews?

I think the problem is people being told to STFU whenever it's brought up. You can agree with the official story, or you can go to hell. That makes people disagree more since they're told they can't, and they look harder for inconsistencies. Personally I think the number was around 4,000,000. Four million, six million, it doesn't really matter in the end, but people should be free to discuss it, regardless of their intentions.