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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    Originally posted by LaZeR View Post
    ....wondering if this thread will ever return back on topic...

    50/50 odds?
    Ummm .... lessee....


    Naw -- we've still got more twists and turns
    as we chug along the snuson mountains of life!!

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    • LaZeR
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      • Oct 2009
      • 3994

      Originally posted by Frosted View Post
      Is this not the "I shit my pants" thread?
      Nah, this teh "I peed my pants" thraed.


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      • snusgetter
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        • May 2010
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        • Frosted
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          • Mar 2010
          • 5798

          Originally posted by LaZeR View Post
          Nah, this teh "I peed my pants" thraed.


          That chicks just excited.

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          • texasmade
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            • Jan 2009
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            • Joe234
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              • Apr 2010
              • 1948

              Originally posted by Frosted View Post
              "He's too old to prosecute. He seems a lovely old chap these days. What would we gain by putting this old gentleman in prison - he'd die there etc etc etc."
              I have to agree this case has always seem shakey to me. They should leave him alone.

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              • Frosted
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                • Mar 2010
                • 5798

                Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
                I have to agree this case has always seem shakey to me. They should leave him alone.
                Actually my personal view is lock 'em up.
                We still pursue murderers 30 40 50 years after the crime. Why are these people any different?
                The only argument that I could put for these people is that they were part of a much bigger machine - say 'no' to the killing and you're dead as well.

                Personally? - I may have blown my own brains out rather than send all those people to their deaths.

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                • lxskllr
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                  Actually my personal view is lock 'em up.
                  We still pursue murderers 30 40 50 years after the crime. Why are these people any different?
                  The only argument that I could put for these people is that they were part of a much bigger machine - say 'no' to the killing and you're dead as well.

                  Personally? - I may have blown my own brains out rather than send all those people to their deaths.
                  But the case is weak. It's always better to err on the side of caution. Id rather have a couple murderers get away with their crimes, then put someone innocent behind bars. Aside from that, it was war time. How many allied war crimes were tried?

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                  • Joe234
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1948

                    Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                    Actually my personal view is lock 'em up.
                    We still pursue murderers 30 40 50 years after the crime. Why are these people any different?
                    The only argument that I could put for these people is that they were part of a much bigger machine - say 'no' to the killing and you're dead as well.

                    Personally? - I may have blown my own brains out rather than send all those people to their deaths.
                    I haven't looked at it this case recently but I remember it going on in the 80's.
                    I don't know he's the one they claim he is.

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                    • Frosted
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5798

                      True - evidence is shaky and people cannot be locked up through hear say.

                      You like to go on about your allied war crimes which I've accepted earlier on. The difference with the Nazis is that the extermination of jews was organised on a grand scale and there lies a very big and obvious difference. There was something definately evil that pervaded the Nazi troops which did not persist with the British or US troops.

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                      • lxskllr
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                        • Sep 2007
                        • 13435

                        Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                        True - evidence is shaky and people cannot be locked up through hear say.

                        You like to go on about your allied war crimes which I've accepted earlier on. The difference with the Nazis is that the extermination of jews was organised on a grand scale and there lies a very big and obvious difference. There was something definately evil that pervaded the Nazi troops which did not perist with the British or US troops.
                        I've been doing a lot of reading on that the last few days, and I've become less and less convinced of an organized extermination program. I think the only accusation I could throw, is the Germans didn't give a shit. Jews get shot during roundups by irregulars? So what. Rampant disease in the camps? so what... The evidence of machinated extermination is very weak.

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                        • Frosted
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                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5798

                          Ok - your position is very clear.

                          You've been reading different books to myself.

                          Obviously the Germans had the right to do as they pleased. Rounding up jews in the first place - romping all over the world doing as they pleased.
                          Poland.

                          My position I hope is clear as well.

                          That'll be the end of the discussion - I'm going to bed.

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                          • lxskllr
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                            • Sep 2007
                            • 13435

                            Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                            Ok - your position is very clear.

                            You've been reading different books to myself.

                            Obviously the Germans had the right to do as they pleased. Rounding up jews in the first place - romping all over the world doing as they pleased.
                            Poland.

                            My position I hope is clear as well.

                            That'll be the end of the discussion - I'm going to bed.
                            You're assigning rights I never stated. There's a fairly large gap between clearing a country of certain people, and not caring so much as to the method, and large scale machinated execution.

                            Edit:
                            It's an insult to history to have an inaccurate accounting what really happened.

                            Edit2:
                            While the atrocities from real countries(England, USA...) are small in comparison to the Nazis, the USSR was every bit as bad, if not worse than the Nazis. Where were the trials for them, and why were they allowed to hold occupied territory?

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                            • LaZeR
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3994

                              Ok since this thread took such a shitty turn and it won't stop, I'm not holding back any longer:

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                              • daruckis
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                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2277

                                please explain to me how you think hitler and obama are the same.

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