Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[krahv]

+1 to lazer. yeah please delete it. And curtis im no anti semite. Never met a jew in my life that i know off, nothing against them.

[outsidelinebacker20]

I would not call you an anti-semite. Idiot is more to the point.

Kevin

[Jimbob_Rebel]

+1 to lazer. yeah please delete it. And curtis im no anti semite. Never met a jew in my life that i know off, nothing against them.

In america,while it is not yet illegal, it is not possible to hold a rational debate upon any particular of the holocaust. If you question any aspect of the court historian's version of events you are a presumed anti-semite. This is an automatic career ender for anyone in a public position so it seldom happens. Nobodies such as ourselves who express doubts in public forums are marked for assault by barbarians armed with poo and vicious invective. Oh, and the other side of the........we'll call it a "debate" for lack of a better term, is never guilty of being hatefull for suggesting that we embrace with abject obessiance every libelous claim made against the german people by red army comissars at the end of the war(the same bunch who lied about the Katyn Woods Massacre).

[snusgetter]

Ok... This thread needs to die now.

Where's the sugar cone??

[c.nash]

[c.nash]

[Bigblue1]

Im not denying it happened, i've visited auschwitz

I know its a touchy subject, but how often do u believe what ur government tells you ?

I feel for Krahv, because he is questioning history, which isn't always right. We are often fed a Line of bullshit, and except it, then we our conditioned to goose step in line. Give the man a break... for christ's sake. Not for one minute do I believe he's an anti-semite. He is questioning what's been told to him,,,, right or wrong. I believe we have been bamboozled and not told the whole story on 9/11,. Does that make me anti-American? or anti the families that lost loved ones on that day? Does it make me stoopid for questioning the official stories? I don't know guys... Maybe it does......
I shall don my flame retardant suit now and await Joe the douche's response......

[texasmade]

6 million blah blah blah

An excerpt from a discussion I had with a friend.

"Because the number has become an international "truth" without any question due to one's being told, "you are a nazi or antisemite" etc.
One can't have anti-semitism without semitism.
I tell people to look into the dicuments of immigration and emmigration of Europe from the 30's to the end of WWII in order to get shed some light on the matter.
Gas chamber were re-built after the war for tourism.
Ernst Zundel and his trial here in Toronto in the 80's had a ban of any reports to the papers.
You are more than likely right and even though Grandpa was a polish jew who survived( as did so many), I'll be labled an anti-semite.
I only care about the truth.

If all you've ever heard was "6 million" from the day you were born, you tend to take it as fact.
The fact is, 6 million jews weren't in Europe at the time.
I'm not a holocaust denier.
I know that the holocaust has been exaggerated in terms of the number of people who perished.
As an atheist with askanazi blood, I am interested in the subject.
Funny, as my polish jewish grandpa who survived the camp, he knew the truth, which isn't the one we've all been told.
He told me too, that the number was closer to 3 to 4 million."

[Frosted]

LOL - 1 million - 6 million!! Who cares - Let's take it as one million so start counting out loud, each number being a human life. I'll come back to you next year and see if you've finished. They still made killing jews a full time job.

The estimated death figure for the whole of that war was 70 million worldwide and that's questionable. Even if you brought that down to 45 mill - that's still a mind boggling loss of life.

[Frosted]

..............Just realised this is in the 'Snus' section LMAO.

[Joe234]

But here is a question?
Just imagine, if the USA said that anyone that questioned the official 911 story could be arrested and imprisoned, especially if they did so publically. Imagine if it was US law, that if someone in Japan wrote a book on 911 not being what we have been told, and then came to the USA to visit their family members, was then stopped at the airport and arrested. Imagine an American scientist examining the 911 ground zero, and maybe finding thermite, and then he is sent off to prison. What would all that make you think? This is exactly what happens in regards to the holocaust.

You're an idiot and anyone like Krahv who thinks less than a million were killed by the Nazis.
I don't call people anti-Semitic for questioning the Holocaust. Some are and some are not.
People have a right to inquire. I call people who come to the conclusion that it was overblown
and that only 200,000 were killed in the death camps" idiots".

I'm glad we allied with the Russians to crush Hitler. Hitler committed suicide when
the Russians were closing in on him. Why should we give a shit about your people.
For all we know your history is exaggerated.

You say sorry if I take offense. The people of London may.
The Blitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz

The Blitz was the sustained bombing of Britain by Nazi Germany between 7 September 1940 and 10 May 1941, during the Second World War. The Blitz hit many towns and cities across the country, but it began with the bombing of London for 76 consecutive nights. By the end of May 1941, over 43,000 civilians, half of them in London, had been killed by bombing and more than a million houses destroyed or damaged in London alone.

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Obviously you are too young to know what happened. What a shame.
I can't believe this represents the opinion of the country or this forum, for that
matter.

Who was ever threatened in this country with imprisonment if they questioned
what happened in WW II?

No I'm not Jewish. Does one have to be Jewish to take offense to
a Holocaust Denier? The definition of Holocaust Denier is one who
diminishes the history accounts. For if only 200,000 were killed as
you say it may not have been called a Holocaust, thus a diminisher
is a denier.

My dad was in WW II and served under MacArthur. My uncle was a bombardier who was shot
down and held prisoner in a Nazi Stalag until he was liberated by Patton and his troops.

Now I know why some people irrationally hate Obama. They hate
our country and what our fathers fought for. They follow morons
like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck or Ernst Zundel.

6 million blah blah blah

Ernst Zundel and his trial here in Toronto in the 80's had a ban of any reports to the papers.

Ernst Zündel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Z%C3%BCndel

Ernst Christof Friedrich Zündel (born April 24, 1939) is a German neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier and pamphleteer who was jailed several times in Canada for publishing literature which "is likely to incite hatred against an identifiable group" and for being a threat to national security, in the United States for overstaying his visa, and in Germany for charges of "inciting racial hatred."He lived in Canada from 1958 to 2000.

Zündel was a vocal supporter of alleged Nazi war criminals living in Canada. During the trial of Imre Finta, Zündel was confronted outside the courthouse by a Holocaust survivor. Zündel told the survivor "Listen, yeah, we are gonna get you yet, don't you worry." In 1997, Zündel told an interviewer from an Israeli newspaper that The Jews of the world have a Holocaust coming, and all the gruesome lies that they have told about people like Germans during the Second World War—all those grotesque Spielberg-like distortions of what really took place—one day will come back to haunt Jews, and I want to not be around when that happens

Zündel was born in the town of Bad Wildbad in Baden-Württemberg and emigrated to Canada from West Germany in 1958, when he was 19, to avoid being conscripted by the German military.

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I have no more to say on this.

It's not worth the effort. Apparently history is not taught in our
schools anymore.

Go back to your video game and reality TV show.

[texasmade]

LOL - 1 million - 6 million!! Who cares - Let's take it as one million so start counting out loud, each number being a human life. I'll come back to you next year and see if you've finished. They still made killing jews a full time job.

The estimated death figure for the whole of that war was 70 million worldwide and that's questionable. Even if you brought that down to 45 mill - that's still a mind boggling loss of life.

+1 a life is a life




EDIT: I'm going to have to call you out on the straw man Joe. Nice try, but try again. What you posted is completely irrelevant to my post. Saying that the number could be larger or smaller is not inciting racial hatred nor is it vocally supporting nazi ideology. A life is a life, but give me the facts, don't exagerate to gain sympathy or support(if that is what happened.) I have not personally looked at the citizenship records So I cannot personally say x amount of people were in these camps and died.

anyways, read the rest of the post then try it again without the cherry picking and straw man.


on a side note

I have plenty of reasons to hate obama.
1. His continuation of the Patriot Act.
2. His stationing 30,000 more troops overseas after claiming he would bring them home.
3. His asking for 83 Billion Dollars to continue funding the aforementioned war which he was so eager to stop before being elected.
4. His claiming that Healtcare reform will not ration healthcare nor have "Death Panels", which turns out to have been a lie.
5. His refusal to accept any aid from foreign governments that offered it at the very beginning of the BP oil Spill incident.

[tom502]

"They" are obviously keeping something secret.

"The Holocaust" is officially THIS:
The Nazis had a plan and intention and acted to completely genocide the Jews.
The Nazis used gas chambers to do this.
6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

IF you question any aspect of these, in any way, then you are a Holocaust Denier, and anti-semite.

More people on Earth are Holocaust Deniers than true believers. But, most won't say anything, especially publically, you can't, because the world Zionist control is that strong. But it has been weakening more and more, and I think eventually their house of cards will fall.

[Curtisp]

World Zionist control? You pretty much summed it up for us there pal.. Carry on, God bless America, say hi to David Duke for us will ya?..anxiously awaiting your next highly enlightened post. Man up Tom! if you hate the jews at least come out and say it!! Would respect that more than this bs holocaust bean counting crap you put up.

[tom502]

You actually spread an anti-semitic lie, when you equate Zionist as Jew. They are not one and the same thing. Yet this is the Zionist tactic, to attack anyone that disagrees with it/them, as anti-semites. This tactic has been employed here a few time against me and a few others. I happen to be of Jewish ancestory myself.