Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[outsidelinebacker20]

Oh Judge. You are so smart. When I grow up, I want to be just like you.

It is hard to believe that people like you exist. What a deluded, pretentious cock bite. Please buy a gun. Please.

Kevin

[Frosted]

Oh God!! Not him again.

[texasmade]

FAUST!! I see you have finally come back. You going to stick around this time?

[tom502]

Yeah, Obama is just like the zionist view of Hitler.

[Snusdog]

The Judge needs his old avatar.............then he will be officially back

[sgreger1]

To my not-very-bright friend Lazer: since you have apparently signed on to this fascinatingly moronic "YahOO" explanation, let us address your claims one by one.

"The Nazis promised to clamp down on Big Business "

They did? At what point was that? Was that when the NAZIs reorganized their war machine to buy weapons from private parties? Or was it when they were buying Zyklon B (look it up, dummy) from, er, "Big Business?"

"It appealed to the young most, they thought they would fight the evil bourgeois and and establish a youth dominated culture."

Really? Oh, wow, was my history education ever wasted... All this time, I thought that the NAZI platform appealed mostly to the older German generation - people that had lived through the shame of their nation's capitulation in World War I. You know, people like Hitler, who had been a fron-line courier in that period of time.

"Along with the youth idea, the NAZIs would use the slight of hand trick, accusing their opponents of facism"

Yet another surprise. All these years, I thought that the NAZI party had embraced the concept of "facism" (or, as most of us prefer to spell it, "fascism"). You know, on account of it being their one distinctive characteristic and all... You may be interested to know that the term derives from a Roman symbol of power, and was employed by the NAZIs to symbolize their particular stance. Since fascism did not become a dirty word until after Germany's defeat by the Soviet Union in 1945, I fail to see why they would possibly have called their opponents that prior to this date.

"Hitler gained the young and the old alike with idealism."

Hey, wait a minute... Didn't you just say that this appealed mostly to the young? If you are going to make a stand, at least have the decency to be consistent about it.

"The biggest similarity is the idea of Nationalism and Socialism."

Ooh, this should be good. Go on, please...

"Americans are naturally nationalists, and it is a good side to appeal to."

Finally, a true statement! Yes, Americans tend to be xenophobic little racists! That is why all the anti-Latino (sorry - "anti-illegal immigrant") policies are so well received in the moronic south. But do go on...

"So, Obama is in favor of many socialist initiatives."

Yeah, Obama... Wait, WHAT?!? Socialist? Has he nationalized the industry? Has he given us a civilized form of nationalized health-care? You see, I AM a socialist, and I can tell you right now that this idiot is not one of us. What has he done? Reinforced the occupation of sovereign nations - check. Kept the torture camps running - check. Allowed oil companies to rape the coasts of his own country, to disastrous effects - check. Yeah, that sounds a bit more right-wing than left-wing to me.

My conclusion follows.

CONCLUSION: You do not think well.

I gotta agree with Faust here. I think that to compare Obama to Hitler you would have to paint with pretty broad brush storkes, and in that sense you could compare him to anyone. I mean the whole "he ran on change, he tried to bring national healthcare" etc etc. These are things that everyone runs on and has been done a million times before. To claim he specifically mirrored Hitlers actions would warrant a lot more evidence. Obama, for example, is not rounding up all the whites by the millions and gassing them. Hitler was real close with big business (hence the whole fascism thing) and that was part of the plan, it was through this partnership that he planned to bring wealth, jobs, and a stable currency back to his people. I think Obama is close to big business, as opposed to anti-big business like the republicans claim. He has given out more corporate welfare and helped the rich more than Bush and Reagan combined (and that's saying a LOT). Hitler was a staunch nationalist for sure, and while many Americans are still this way, it's less popular in recent years. But how many other leaders were nationalists? You could compare him to anybody if things like this count in your comparison.


But Judge, please stop painting with such broad brush-strokes if you could. For example, claiming that Americans tend to be "xenophobic little racists". The problem is that your statement lacks any basis and to make such a claim, you would have to COMPLETELY overlook the fact that we are one of (if not the most) diverse country on the planet. To claim we are all a bunch of xenophobes doens't make sense. Perhaps if this was the 1800's you could make that claim. And the anti-illegal immegrant movement is also supported by hispanics so not sure why you don't make the distinction. Please explain why America is racist for wanting to have borders like every other country has? Does Russia not have borders? Are they all xenophobes? Actually Russia's human right's/tolerance/anti-discrimination laws have been lacking compared to America's, so by your standard, you own people are a bunch of little xenophobes, no?


I'm just saying, you don't like when people make broad generalisations like "all communists are bad" or "Obama is Hitler", so please don't stereotype my entire country as xenophic racists, especially not on the basis of wanting to have a stable border policy, which I think is a reasonable expectation. If you look around here on snuson, you will notice that the members here represent a good cross-section of the country, and I don't believe anyone here is truly racist.

[tom502]

Russia just recently elected their first black person to office.
If you compare the US to all the other nations, we are the most open, and diverse, and accepting of any of the others.

Many races live here, and many races live in all the other nations too. Yet the US has candidates in office of many races, and even sexual orientations. How many blacks hold offices in France and the UK compared the US?

America is probably the least "xenophobic" nation in the world.

[LaZeR]

To my not-very-bright friend Lazer: since you have apparently signed on to this fascinatingly moronic "YahOO" explanation, let us address your claims one by one......

[Frosted]

Russia just recently elected their first black person to office.
If you compare the US to all the other nations, we are the most open, and diverse, and accepting of any of the others.

Many races live here, and many races live in all the other nations too. Yet the US has candidates in office of many races, and even sexual orientations. How many blacks hold offices in France and the UK compared the US?

America is probably the least "xenophobic" nation in the world.

The reason why few blacks hold office in the UK is nothing to do with xenophobia or racism. The UK is gagging to get competent ethnic minorities in office.

[tom502]

Well, in the US, there is, and has been, an urge to just get someone who is not white into some elected position, or hired, regardless of their character, or ability. It's all an image thing, with government mandates and kickbacks to make it look good.

[LaZeR]

[f. bandersnatch]

Frosted, I have a giant black friend that does an excellent British accent, perhaps I should fax you his resume?

And, in all seriousness, I can understand how a person would stereotype Americans as "xenophobic little racists". Before you shit all over your keyboard, notice I said "stereotype", I think that this kind of broad generalization is faulty. I think that at worst Americans are like 15% racist and 40% afraid of change, and about 90% afraid in general.

[sgreger1]

Frosted, I have a giant black friend that does an excellent British accent, perhaps I should fax you his resume?

And, in all seriousness, I can understand how a person would stereotype Americans as "xenophobic little racists". Before you shit all over your keyboard, notice I said "stereotype", I think that this kind of broad generalization is faulty. I think that at worst Americans are like 15% racist and 40% afraid of change, and about 90% afraid in general.

Did I miss something in history class? Where we the only country to have slavery? Was every other country tolerant always? Are all countries more tolerant than us today? I think in comparison, you will find that America is the most diverse, and even our leaders are more diverse than any other country I can think of. We have the least strict border laws and some of the harshest hate crime legislation. Please someone point out to me how America is somehow xenophobic in comparison to any other given country.

[snusgetter]

Frosted, I have a giant black friend that does an excellent British accent, perhaps I should fax you his resume?

And, in all seriousness, I can understand how a person would stereotype Americans as "xenophobic little racists". Before you shit all over your keyboard, notice I said "stereotype", I think that this kind of broad generalization is faulty. I think that at worst Americans are like 15% racist and 40% afraid of change, and about 90% afraid in general.

I like your math! Algebraic re-equation?!?

[tom502]

Oliver Stone: Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate
Outspoken Hollywood director says new film aims to put Adolf Hitler, who he has called an 'easy scapegoat' in the past, in his due historical context.
By Haaretz Service
Jewish control of the media is preventing an open discussion of the Holocaust, prominent Hollywood director Oliver Stone told the Sunday Times, adding that the U.S. Jewish lobby was controlling Washington's foreign policy for years.

In the Sunday interview, Stone reportedly said U.S. public opinion was focused on the Holocaust as a result of the "Jewish domination of the media," adding that an upcoming film of him aims to put Adolf Hitler and Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin "in context."

"There's a major lobby in the United States," Stone said, adding that "they are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington."

The famed Hollywood director of such films as Platoon and JFK, also said that while "Hitler was a Frankenstein," there was also a "Dr Frankenstein."

"German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support," Stone told the Sunday Times, adding that "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 [million killed]."

Referring to the alleged influence of the powerful Jewish lobby on U.S. foreign policy, Stone said that Israel had distorted "United States foreign policy for years," adding he felt U.S. policy toward Iran was "horrible."

"Iran isn't necessarily the good guy," Stone said, insisting that Americans did not "know the full story."

Stone's comments to the Sunday times echo pervious remarks by the Hollywood director, regarding what he conceives as the distorted view of figures such as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin in U.S. media.

Earlier this year, Stone, speaking at the at the Television Critics Association's semi-annual press tour in Pasadena said that "Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history and it's been used cheaply."

"He's the product of a series of actions. It's cause and effect ... People in America don't know the connection between World War I and World War II, Stone said adding that through his documentary work he has been able to "walk in Stalin's shoes and Hitler's shoes to understand their point of view."

"We're going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them. We want to move beyond opinions ... Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated," Stone said.