Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[tom502]

Israel to expel 400 children JASON KOUTSOUKIS, JERUSALEM
August 3, 2010

ISRAEL will expel 400 native-born children of non-Jewish foreign workers to help safeguard the country's Jewish identity.

Migrant advocacy groups responded angrily, arguing that the decision would punish innocent children by sending them back to impoverished nations their parents left in search of better lives in Israel.

Announcing the decision on Sunday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the policy was also aimed at halting the flow of illegal immigrants across the southern border with Egypt.

''On the one hand, this problem is a humanitarian problem, we all feel and understand the hearts of children,'' Mr Netanyahu said. ''But on the other hand, there are Zionist considerations and ensuring the Jewish character of the state of Israel.''

Under the new rules, children born to foreign workers who entered Israel legally, and who have lived in Israel for five years or more, speak Hebrew and are enrolled in an Israeli school, will be eligible for permanent residency.

After considering the issue for more than a year, the Israeli cabinet voted 13 to 10 in favour of the decision.

Some ministers voted against the move because not enough children were being expelled. Other ministers were opposed to expelling any children.

About 400 children of foreign workers will have to leave Israel by the end of the month, while another 800 children will be eligible to stay.

''This isn't the state of the Jews that I know, that expels children,'' said Industry Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, a Labour Party member. ''This is not the right time to let people see Israel expelling 400 children.''

Rotem Ilan, chairman of Israeli Children, an advocacy group for migrant workers' families, said: ''We're talking about children here. They are the children of people who came to Israel legally to work.

''We brought these people here to plough our fields, build our houses and take care of our grandparents. And with people, come families.''

Ms Ilan argued that it was the deportation of children that threatened Israel's Jewish character.

''The obligation to act with kindness and compassion to foreigners is the most frequently repeated commandment in the Torah,'' she said.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/israe...802-1139p.html

[truthwolf1]

I think the White Power crew can only "dream" of the Israelis modern day racist accomplishments.

[tom502]

Just think if the US tried to do this.

[Joe234]

Serious now, researchers find the Diary was written with a ball point pen, which did not exist back then. I don't know all the facts, but I did read this.

I read it therefore it's true. A holocaust denier that has been repudiated said so.

You're still using dumb logic.

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Denials and legal action

After the diary became widely known in the late 1950s, various allegations against the diary were published, with the earliest published criticisms occurring in Sweden and Norway. The allegations in the Swedish Nazi magazine Fria ord (free words) in 1957 came from the Danish author and critic Harald Nielsen who had written antisemitic articles about the Danish-Jewish author Georg Brandes already at the beginning of the twentieth century.[66] Among the accusations was a claim that the diary had been written by Meyer Levin,[67] and that Anne Frank had not really existed.

In 1958, Simon Wiesenthal was challenged by a group of protesters at a performance of The Diary of Anne Frank in Vienna who asserted that Anne Frank had never existed, and who challenged Wiesenthal to prove her existence by finding the man who had arrested her. He began searching for Karl Silberbauer and found him in 1963. When interviewed, Silberbauer readily admitted his role, and identified Anne Frank from a photograph as one of the people arrested. He provided a full account of events and recalled emptying a briefcase full of papers onto the floor. His statement corroborated the version of events that had previously been presented by witnesses such as Otto Frank.[68]

Opponents of the diary continued to express the view that it was not written by a child, but had been created as pro-Jewish propaganda, with Otto Frank accused of fraud. In 1959, Frank took legal action in Lübeck against Lothar Stielau, a school teacher and former Hitler Youth member who published a school paper that described the diary as a forgery. The complaint was extended to include Heinrich Buddegerg, who wrote a letter in support of Stielau, which was published in a Lübeck newspaper. The court examined the diary, and, in 1960, authenticated the handwriting as matching that in letters known to have been written by Anne Frank, and declared the diary to be genuine. Stielau recanted his earlier statement, and Otto Frank did not pursue the case any further.[67]

In 1976, Otto Frank took action against Heinz Roth of Frankfurt, who published pamphlets stating that the diary was a forgery. The judge ruled that if he published further statements he would be subjected to a fine of 500,000 German marks and a six-month jail sentence. Roth appealed against the court's decision and died in 1978, a year before his appeal was rejected.[67]

Otto Frank mounted a further lawsuit in 1976 against Ernst Römer who distributed a pamphlet titled "The Diary of Anne Frank, Bestseller, A Lie". When another man named Edgar Geiss distributed the same pamphlet in the courtroom, he too was prosecuted. Römer was fined 1,500 Deutschmarks,[67] and Geiss was sentenced to six months imprisonment. On appeal the sentence was reduced, but the case against him was dropped following a subsequent appeal because the statutory limitation for libel had expired.[69]

With Otto Frank's death in 1980, the original diary, including letters and loose sheets, were willed to the Dutch Institute for War Documentation,[70] who commissioned a forensic study of the diary through the Netherlands Ministry of Justice in 1986. They examined the handwriting against known examples and found that they matched, and determined that the paper, glue and ink were readily available during the time the diary was said to have been written. Their final determination was that the diary is authentic, and their findings were published in what has become known as the "Critical Edition" of the diary. On 23 March 1990, the Hamburg Regional Court confirmed its authenticity.

In 1991, Holocaust deniers Robert Faurisson and Siegfried Verbeke produced a booklet titled The Diary of Anne Frank: A Critical Approach. They claimed that Otto Frank wrote the diary, based on assertions that the diary contained several contradictions, that hiding in the Achterhuis would have been impossible, and that the prose style and handwriting of Anne Frank were not those of a teenager.[71]

The Anne Frank House in Amsterdam and the Anne Frank Funds in Basel instigated a civil law suit in December 1993, to prohibit the further distribution of The Diary of Anne Frank: A Critical Approach in the Netherlands. On 9 December 1998, the Amsterdam District Court ruled in favour of the claimants, forbade any further denial of the authenticity of the diary and unsolicited distribution of publications to that effect, and imposed a penalty of 25,000 guilders per infringement.[72]

[tom502]

Then it must be.

[truthwolf1]

German hand writing experts said the entire book was written by one person but the last parts were written with the 50's pen which came after Ann died of typhus in 1944

[Joe234]

German hand writing experts said the entire book was written by one person but the last parts were written with the 50's pen which came after Ann died of typhus in 1944

That's not what the info I posted says. I know you hate it when I copy
and paste. How about some sources for your claim. I can claim
anything is true. I wrote it and my DNA is on the diary.

[tom502]

I think it odd, how "H" believers, believe without question, with it's dubious photos, lack of documents, questionable witnesses, and forced confessions, yet they refuse to believe in Nazi UFOs, with it's many photos, films, witnesses, and tons of documents.

[truthwolf1]

That's not what the info I posted says. I know you hate it when I copy
and paste. How about some sources for your claim. I can claim
anything is true. I wrote it and my DNA is on the diary.

It was from the 1980 Otto trial against two Germans who claimed it was a fake.

[sgreger1]

I think it odd, how "H" believers, believe without question, with it's dubious photos, lack of documents, questionable witnesses, and forced confessions, yet they refuse to believe in Nazi UFOs, with it's many photos, films, witnesses, and tons of documents.

I posted about 15 bonafide "H" photos on this forum so far. Could you post maybe 5 nazi UFO photos? Because that would be awesome. If there is documentation behind it id love to see it, however i've looked into it before, and while the nazis did work on flying discs, they were low tech pieces of shit that used a set of crappy induction fans to achiev lift and therefore never went but a foot or two off the ground. Any pictures you have would be great.

(Edit: I do find it amazing that hitler did make flying discs that look like the UFO's we see today. Even though they were low tech and didn't work well, what are the odds he would utilize the same design as a UFO?)

[tom502]

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html

Check out the gallery links too.

[sgreger1]

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html

Check out the gallery links too.

Wow, that is actually the most amazing set of imgaes i've seen thusfar. Some of them (like the one you poasted above) look extremely photoshopped to me, but on their picture gallery pages a lot of those look really genuine. I don't have the facilities at work to try and look to see if they appear shopped, but they are astoundingly good quality (well, they look properly aged etc).

It's so hard to tell because of how advanced image post-editing software is nowadays, but i gotta say those pictures do look really cool. Good post Tom!


I still maintain they couldn't have had them though. If they did have them, than they would have used them during the war. Since they did not use them during the war, and instead lost a brutal defeat, I would have to assume they did not have them to start with. Technology like that would have guaranteed victory, and no country falls before pulling out the big guns.

What explanation have you heard for this tom? If they had them, why never use them?

[tom502]

Here is an interview with a retired military veteran, who actually saw a German craft, which he was told it was used to go to the Moon. This would explain why we see UFOs today, they are coming and going from the moon base, to deliver supplies and whatnot.

http://netowne.com/naziufos/boblee/index.htm

[tom502]

As to why they didn't use them, I think they did, but not much, because I don't think they were ready, and only had a few, this was their big secret, but they did not have a fleet, this may have also been a reason the war started, because "we" may have known something, and wanted it for ourselves. Hmmm.... maybe Roswell was not alien afterall...

[sgreger1]

As to why they didn't use them, I think they did, but not much, because I don't think they were ready, and only had a few, this was their big secret, but they did not have a fleet, this may have also been a reason the war started, because "we" may have known something, and wanted it for ourselves. Hmmm.... maybe Roswell was not alien afterall...

Not that I completely believe this, btu I would like to give tom's theory some credit with one thing. The disc shaped UFO's that have become so popular in pop culture became prominent during WWII, where they were coined with the name of "foo fighters", which were routinely witnessed by allied aircraft. That much is certain as there is mutiple sources and official documents regarding this. It was eventually written off as "we don't know, but they don't attack so not a threat to national security".


It could be true that they had been developing some new technology and we went after them to get it. They certainly did have some of the best scientists and most of their vehicles (especially tanks and aircraft) were superior to our for quite a while. We would not have defeated the russians without the help of theri scientists either. So I could lend some credence to the theory that they had a clandestine aircraft project happening. Hitler did dump a lot of money into R&D for his military force so it doens't seem out of line. Thenw e know for a fact taht they did try building flying saucers, but like I mentioned before, they didn't work well and could only get a few feet off the ground. The official story is that the project was scrapped. But is it not odd that they look exactly like what we see in movies and what people claim to see? The circular disc shaped design just so happens to be the design they chose? Maybe they same something and sought to emulate it, or perhaps the whole sightings phenoma was just isghtings of their secret aircraft on test flights, which would explain why they never attacked.


I think it is highlyunlikely they went to the moon a) because I don't believe they had that kind of tech. and B), even if they did have the capability, we would know by now. Theyhave photographed every inch of the moon and I see thing there. At the same time, if you look at the photos, there are places that are BLATANTLY shopped or post-edited in some way, usually using a smear bursh, or other times they use a generic stamp tool to stamp common terrain features over a certain area. The problem with this is it's in the shape of a square, and you can see when it overlaps. Normally I would chalk this up to an error with takig the pictures, but it's 2010 and we shouldn't be haivng those issues. To me at least it looks extremely edited.


Either way, I still don't buy the mooon base theoy for a plethora of reasons, but as far as germany having developed something that looks like a "flying saucer" there seems to be some evidence that they at least tried. We did seize a lot of that nazi booty once we took them over, so I could see how the operation could have been "scrapped" on their end and then restarted over here. In this case it's good news because it means we own them and therefore i have little to fear. Still, I do believe there is something to the UFO sightings thing, but for the most part I believe it's just test aircraft, likely owned by us.