Got busted by undercover cop selling my snus :D Nazis & WW2 & Concentration Camp O MY

[tom502]

I really wanna see Iron Sky now, because while the movie is "fiction", I believe what it's about, is true.
The moon has been kept secret from us since the beginning, with the faked landing footage, the altered photos.
Then there is the dark side, I don't think area has been able to be explored well.
And a secret Nazi moonbase could be underground too. And we even have many shuttle videos of UFOs flying to and fro.

I have read reports of the dialogues of the US astronauts on the moon, saying they are seeing structures, and craft, and others watching them.
The whole 3rd Reich just relocated.
Probably created a Death Star like craft within the moon itself. The Fuhrer of course old back then, was probably fitted into a cyborg body that keeps him alive, is it just coincidence that Darth Vader's helmet looks just like a German Nazi one?

All the craft we see today, are connected, with the moon base, and secret hollow earth base, and maybe even some on Mars.
We are dealing with beings way more advanced than we are.

[sgreger1]

I have read reports of the dialogues of the US astronauts on the moon, saying they are seeing structures, and craft, and others watching them.
The whole 3rd Reich just relocated.
Probably created a Death Star like craft within the moon itself. The Fuhrer of course old back then, was probably fitted into a cyborg body that keeps him alive, is it just coincidence that Darth Vader's helmet looks just like a German Nazi one?

LOLOl. Tom, you'r tlaking about the 40's man, no cyborgs or any of that. And since we stole all their scientists, how do you figure they accomplished this? And underground? Do you realize the massive amount of equipment and personelle that would have had to be transported there to accomplish this? Literally it will be a hundred years untill we have the tech to do this.

Furthermore, if the ufo's germany had weren't capable of performing a simple attack on allied forces, what makes you think they could fly to the moon? There is just no evidence for it, it's all conjecture. I agree there is something funny going on with nasa (though I believe we did go to the moon), but that oculd be for a lot of reasons. For example I believe we have been trying to develope space-based weapons since the 80's. It makes sense and wouldn'thave to be all that high tech, and would provide a significant tactical advantage for the United States. Stuff like that seems within the realm of possibility to me, but for them to have flown to the moon at a time where computers and color TV didn't exist just seems like a bit much. I don't see any evidence that germany had any of the required technology to accomplish this. They were more advanced, relative to the US, as far as their science dept, but not THAT advanced, i'm talking small improvements such as stronger tanks and stuff. Any force with the capability to fly to the moon in the 40's-50's would not have lost a war.

[lxskllr]

I wonder if anyone ever considered dealing with Hitler during the war. The world could have ended up a lot better than it did. Help Hitler take over the USSR in exchange for pulling out of western Europe. As it was, we allied with Hitler2(Stalin) to defeat Hitler1, and had 50 years of unrest do to that.

[tom502]

Well, it's hard to "prove". But while some people have their Jesus and Heaven, and Allah and 72 Virgins to make them feel good, I have my Nazi UFOs and secret Moonbase.

[sgreger1]

Well, it's hard to "prove". But while some people have their Jesus and Heaven, and Allah and 72 Virgins to make them feel good, I have my Nazi UFOs and secret Moonbase.

Right and I get that, but this is a topic that intirests me and you seem to have done more research than I have which is why i'm asking. I mean what would they eat? Where would their supplies come from? Where would the manpower have come from? Could they have nailed something like that on their first try? Unlikely if you ask me. It took us several tries just to launch a shuttle to the moon, it would be difficult for me to believe that Hitler managed to pull off a self sustaining moon colony in the 50's without anyone knowing and on their first try without error.



@ LX: I agree, we could have played it differently. I'm nto sure if it would have turned out better or worse. We could have helped him to defeat the russians, but then we would still have to deal with him afterwards. Instead we more or less helped the russians to defeat hitler, adn then dealt with them afterwards. I suppose it could have gone either way, but I think Hitler was the more dominant threat at the time, as he was the most aggressive in his bid to take over Europe, so allowing him the extra time to accomplish that could have led to us losing the war.

I dunno, fun to think about.

[tom502]

The Reichenberg was the craft that the germans used to land on the moon in 1942, and they began to buld the moonbase. Of course this continued after the war from their antarctic base, to the moon.

[Joe234]

Wow, that is actually the most amazing set of imgaes i've seen thusfar. Some of them (like the one you poasted above) look extremely photoshopped to me, but on their picture gallery pages a lot of those look really genuine. I don't have the facilities at work to try and look to see if they appear shopped, but they are astoundingly good quality (well, they look properly aged etc).

It's so hard to tell because of how advanced image post-editing software is nowadays, but i gotta say those pictures do look really cool. Good post Tom!


I still maintain they couldn't have had them though. If they did have them, than they would have used them during the war. Since they did not use them during the war, and instead lost a brutal defeat, I would have to assume they did not have them to start with. Technology like that would have guaranteed victory, and no country falls before pulling out the big guns.

What explanation have you heard for this tom? If they had them, why never use them?

If you watch TV you would have seen that we had flying discs too. They were not UFOs but
our own. They didn't fly very well.

Nice try Tom.

Military disc-shaped aircraft

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...haped_aircraft



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...haped_aircraft

[Joe234]

The Reichenberg was the craft that the germans used to land on the moon in 1942, and they began to buld the moonbase. Of course this continued after the war from their antarctic base, to the moon.

Right. What a nursery rhyme.

[c.nash]

f.uck this thread...

[sgreger1]

The Reichenberg was the craft that the germans used to land on the moon in 1942, and they began to buld the moonbase. Of course this continued after the war from their antarctic base, to the moon.

But Tom, HOW. To believe that happened would mean the Germans would be hundreds of years more advanced than we are today, but back in 1942. There is no evidence of that. It doesn't make sense that they would be 200 years into the future and yet never use any of it publicly, and even lost a war and lost their country because they didn't use it. That's not how things work.


To build a sustainable moon colony would take decades, plus it would require massive crews of people in all professions, as well as some way to make it all invisible. In 1942 they didn't even have color TV's. People were riding horses just a decade before. I just don't see any evidence, at all, of any kind that would point to them being that advanced.


If you can show 1 instance of them being significantly advanced I could maybe buy it, but from what I can see, they were no different than any other country. They had a good science team so they made small advancements ahead of us and europe but nothing groundbreaking.



Do you realize what kind of effort it would take to create something like that on the moon? There is no way one could do that in secret, especially not in 1942. And the moon can't be hollow because it used to have volcanic activity on it, meaning there's something inside. (Oh, and that's also why the earth isn't hollow either)

[sgreger1]

If you watch TV you would have seen that we had flying discs too. They were not UFOs but
our own. They didn't fly very well.

Nice try Tom.

Military disc-shaped aircraft


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...haped_aircraft



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...haped_aircraft

Yes, I am aware of these. We have a family friend who worked/works on some of these skunkwork projects and mentioned these to me a long time ago when discussing aliens. His angle was pretty much, "Dont worry, theyr all ours".


The germans had them as well, just as an fyi, but like our models they enevitably were found useless. They tried all sorts of stuff back during WWII, eventually scrapping all of them once everyone started utilizing the helicopter as the vehicle of choice.



I'm just saying that it's intiresting how we keep seeing sightings of these things by the tens of thousands each year. To me that sounds like they weren't scrapped, but rather the technology was refined or at least the circular wing (flying saucer) design was usefull and recycled into a new project. I think most if not all UFO's seen are likely US prototype airplanes.

[sgreger1]

The germans having "ufo"'s was widely understood and acknowledged by defecting or (later) captured officers and engineers. They were working on a whole host of new tech for thier air fleet that they had hoped to win the war with. However, at the time of their defeat, most of them were just in their preliminary stages and not ready to be fielded.



Conspiracy theory aside, we know they were working on circular winged aircraft (disc aircraft), but they never made anything from it (same with the US). This is probably where the conspiracy theories about Nazis in the antarctic come from.

But both sides acknowledged that the germans were in the process of developing some very remarkable aircraft. Project Blue Book, the US government's UFO investigation department (who just a year or so ago declassified their documents and admitted there even WAS a UFO investigation dept) tracked the german disk aircrafts and acknowledged their existance, and chalked much of the UFO phenomena to sightings of these aircraft during test runs.


In 1959, Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, editor of the U.S.A.F.'s Project Blue Book wrote:

“When WWII ended, the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missiles under development. The majority were in the most preliminary stages, but they were the only known craft that could even approach the performance of objects reported to UFO observers.[9]






This is why i maintain that most UFO's, if not all, are just skunkworks projects by our government or the government of others. I figure they didn't stop making cool new jets after the stealth, which is 2 decades old now. But, just like the stealth bomber was a conspiracy theory before ti was uveiled, so is this new craft. Eventually (probably in my lifetime) theyll roll it out to show the world. (Then they start working on the next thing)

[tom502]

[Roo]

I had a dream last night that Mother Teresa was possessed by the Devil, spitting, cursing, and speaking languages backwards like Linda Blair. Then I watched a show today about locusts. I think I'm all set for my own possession tonight. See you mother****ers in Hell.

[Joe234]

But Tom, HOW. To believe that happened would mean the Germans would be hundreds of years more advanced than we are today, but back in 1942. There is no evidence of that. It doesn't make sense that they would be 200 years into the future and yet never use any of it publicly, and even lost a war and lost their country because they didn't use it. That's not how things work.


To build a sustainable moon colony would take decades, plus it would require massive crews of people in all professions, as well as some way to make it all invisible. In 1942 they didn't even have color TV's. People were riding horses just a decade before. I just don't see any evidence, at all, of any kind that would point to them being that advanced.


If you can show 1 instance of them being significantly advanced I could maybe buy it, but from what I can see, they were no different than any other country. They had a good science team so they made small advancements ahead of us and europe but nothing groundbreaking.



Do you realize what kind of effort it would take to create something like that on the moon? There is no way one could do that in secret, especially not in 1942. And the moon can't be hollow because it used to have volcanic activity on it, meaning there's something inside. (Oh, and that's also why the earth isn't hollow either)

Right. And if they're an efficient mode of space travel why haven't any of the modern
space programs used them?

What makes you believe this stuff Tom? You don't believe everything you hear do you?