Professor's 13 Keys Predict Obama Will Get Re-Elected

[f. bandersnatch]

One dickhole politician is the same as all the others.

[snusgetter]

One dickhole politician is the same as all the others.

Says who??

[tom502]

I heard Obama has outspent Bush on everything.

[dxh]

I heard Obama has outspent Bush on everything.

I heard cupcakes taste good

[sgreger1]

Maybe someone can help me with this: Bush spends like 10 trillion on a war and Obama spends like 1 trillion on trying to revive the economy, but our children will be paying for Obama's hope and change?

Your numbers are completely backwards. Obama has already spent more than Bush, and has nearly trippled the war effort and increased defense spending. Furthermore, he is no reviving the economy with the other trillion, but rather giving billions in corporate welfare to the wealthy, and in fact rewarding those that caused the problem in the first place. It's like if in Star Wars Darth vader ran out of money to build the death star, and then Obama came in and bailed him out so he could keep on building. It's not reviving anything but a failed system.


The children, my friend, will be paying for all of this, from obama, from bush, from everyone. All the bad decisions of the last century are coming to fruition during our time now, and we are going to have to deal with it.

[razzor7]

Your numbers are completely backwards. Obama has already spent more than Bush, and has nearly trippled the war effort and increased defense spending. Furthermore, he is no reviving the economy with the other trillion, but rather giving billions in corporate welfare to the wealthy, and in fact rewarding those that caused the problem in the first place. It's like if in Star Wars Darth vader ran out of money to build the death star, and then Obama came in and bailed him out so he could keep on building. It's not reviving anything but a failed system.


The children, my friend, will be paying for all of this, from obama, from bush, from everyone. All the bad decisions of the last century are coming to fruiting during our time now, and we are going to have to deal with it.

Well makes sense, but what exactly is wrong? I was fairly sure the war cost around ~10 trillion. I'm not doubting Obama has spent a lot more than the "stimulus" but is it wrong that the war cost that much? And you're saying Obama's spent more? I don't pay much attention to all this. Don't worry, I'm not registered to vote.

[danielan]

Well makes sense, but what exactly is wrong? I was fairly sure the war cost around ~10 trillion. I'm not doubting Obama has spent a lot more than the "stimulus" but is it wrong that the war cost that much? And you're saying Obama's spent more? I don't pay much attention to all this. Don't worry, I'm not registered to vote.

http://costofwar.com/

[sgreger1]

Well makes sense, but what exactly is wrong? I was fairly sure the war cost around ~10 trillion. I'm not doubting Obama has spent a lot more than the "stimulus" but is it wrong that the war cost that much? And you're saying Obama's spent more? I don't pay much attention to all this. Don't worry, I'm not registered to vote.

Lol, im not gettin on ya, just correcting you because it's not as simple as Bush spend our money on war and Obama spent it on the economy, because that couldn't be further from the truth. Also, 10 trillion is off by 9 trillion from the true cost of war to date:

To date, $1.05 trillion dollars have been allocated to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The national, state, and local numbers we provide are based on the total approved amounts through the end of Fiscal Year 2010.
These appropriations do not include funds to support the “surge” of 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan announced by the Obama administration on December 1, 2009. Conservative estimates suggest the surge will cost approximately $30 billion and we anticipate supplemental appropriations for this later in the year.

http://costofwar.com/

This total is a combination of Iraq and Afghanistan war expendatures:

Iraq: $733,615,422,867 (733 billion)
Afghanistan: $283,622,744,615 (283 billion)

(Can you believe it costs 1 million dollars per soldier deployed? Deploying a single soldier costs 1 million dollars, HOW CAN WE EVER WIN WITH OVERHEAD LIKE THAT.)


Meanwhile, stimulis and bailout spending has absolutely dwarfed our war expenditures by several orders of magnitude:

Financial Rescue Nears GDP as Pledges Top $12.8 Trillion


Federal Stimulis Programs: 1.2 trillion
Federal Reserve Rescue Efforts: 6.4 trillion
FDIC Bank Takeovers: 45.4 billion
Other financial initiatives (recovery initiatives only) 1.7 trillion
Other Housing Initiatives: 745 billion

I could go on but I don't have time to find the rest of the amounts being spent right now. All in all we have spent more money on bailouts and stimulis packages in the last year than we have spend on war in the last 9 years combined, yet none of the goals have been reached for the simulis package. For example, we were promised that if we allowed congress to spend all this recovery money, unemployment would not top 8%, meanwhile we have an official unemployment rate of nearly 10% (and have had for quit a while), but the actuall unemployment rate is closer to 20 when you count the people who have stopped looking for work or those who have exceeded their maximum benefits and their unemployment checks ran out.




So, in closing, that was the basis for my response to your statement. I hear it all too often that Bush only spent money on war and Obama only spends only on us and the economy. Bottom line is they both are spending too much and as always, very little is actually benefitting us.






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I actually agree with Obama's massive (record setting) corporate welfare and unprecidented handouts to the rich over the wars at this point, because at least the bailout money has the potential of staying in our economy and someday trickling down to my wallet (being the evil capitalist that I am). The war is money that is not coming back.




Taxpayers in California will pay $132.6 billion for total Iraq and Afghanistan war spending since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:

39,391,600 People Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
1,420,335 Police or Sheriff's Patrol Officers for One Year OR
1,740,679 Firefighters for One Year OR
15,868,878 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
23,883,376 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR
69,985,605 Children Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
15,090,196 Head Start Slots for Children for One Year OR
47,044,554 Households with Renewable Electricity - Solar Photovoltaic for One Year OR
1,721,744 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
125,452,144 Households with Renewable Electricity-Wind Power for One Year

[tom502]

That clown is not only the enemy of America but of the world! Talk about biggest douche in the universe!

[LaZeR]

Isn't funny how a thread about Obama always reverts back to bitching about Bush. When is Obama and his lovers going to take responsibility for anything? Is G.W. still this powerful? I guess, it's true what they say, the POTUS is only a puppet and Mr. Bush is the ringleader of all times!!!111

[snusgetter]

You were saying??

Topic of the day... Everyday!!

[dxh]

The children, my friend, will be paying for all of this, from obama, from bush, from everyone. All the bad decisions of the last century are coming to fruiting during our time now, and we are going to have to deal with it.

+1 that^^^

[tom502]

This joke is the worst president of all time, and while that may seem against him, it's more so against the masses of fools we have that vote, and this is what we get. Democracy is a joke!

[sgreger1]

Your surprise ROFLCOPTER has arrived, sir.








GIFT TO THE DEMS: BUSH TO RELEASE BOOK FOR ELECTION; LEAKS BEGIN IN OCTOBER












Okay okay, okay.. be honest. Are you going to buy this book to replace the funny pages you would normally read on your bathroom breaks.

[dxh]

This joke is the worst president of all time, and while that may seem against him, it's more so against the masses of fools we have that vote, and this is what we get. Democracy is a joke!

I don't think that is fair. I think people wanted to believe him. People wanted to end the wars. People wanted healthcare reform.
To call them(me included) fools is quite elitist.